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Old 11-10-2010, 11:49 PM   #1
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Re: It ain't over till it's over.

honestly man I aint sure, been wondering it myself as I've got a fade job on my 88 and would like to use AE paint, but need a clear to go over it. I wasn't sure if the AE and having clear over it would work together or not. I was thinking I'd have to buy base coat and then do my fade and clear coat over it.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:03 AM   #2
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acrylic enamel is ultimately not as durable as polyurethane paint, it can be protected with a clear coat finish added on over the top. This finish adds a professional looking sheen and seals up the new paint job.

You can spray urethane clear over alkyd enamel or acrylic enamel but the requirement is you must activate the enamel and let set 4 hours or overnight for best results and then clear
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:46 PM   #3
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I never had a problem with AE shine or lasting. I always let it dry a week or so then cut anf buff it.
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I never had a problem with AE shine or lasting. I always let it dry a week or so then cut anf buff it.
the clear over AE (silver metallic) is so i get the desired color effect brandywine candy powder added in the clear not for shine or lasting the 4 hours or overnight is so the Hardener can work and Reducer in the clear dont dissolve the top coat

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Old 11-11-2010, 03:35 PM   #5
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You can clear over anything. We used to spray completes with enamel and then clear it with urethane clear. Heck, we used to even get the color all down and then mix up some 1/2 color 1/2 clear and put a coat or two on, then one coat of all clear. Some of the best paint jobs I've ever seen come out with that sort of combo.

Using a urethane color and an enamel clear though, not 100% sure on that. Sorta like the phrase beer on top of whiskey, sorta risky; and whiskey on top of beer never fear. I probably would not start hammering enamel clear on top of still tacky urethane. I'm just not really well versed in that mixture to be honest. I'll have to go talk to my painter a little, I'm only 40, he's been painting as long as I've been alive.
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You can clear over anything. We used to spray completes with enamel and then clear it with urethane clear. Heck, we used to even get the color all down and then mix up some 1/2 color 1/2 clear and put a coat or two on, then one coat of all clear. Some of the best paint jobs I've ever seen come out with that sort of combo.

Using a urethane color and an enamel clear though, not 100% sure on that. Sorta like the phrase beer on top of whiskey, sorta risky; and whiskey on top of beer never fear. I probably would not start hammering enamel clear on top of still tacky urethane. I'm just not really well versed in that mixture to be honest. I'll have to go talk to my painter a little, I'm only 40, he's been painting as long as I've been alive.
thanks randy. but i'm not using urethane. its all acrylic enamel paint and clear. i've done this process a couple of times when i was younger.53 now . but i've said before i've been out of the field for a while, but still read and kept up with things a little. i think if the catalyst used is the same, i'll be ok. if not i'll paint it again.

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Old 11-11-2010, 05:45 PM   #7
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yea any kind of metalics or candys I'd use clear over, esp. if you plan to cut and buff it. I made that mistake on my metalic silver camaro, no clear just AE and wet sanded then buffed it, it turned blotchy, tiger striped, or spotty whichever you like to call it.


I just wanna see some paint pics the color choice sounds nice. I can't wait to see the finished color.
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hopefully within the next week or two we'll have something to look at. gonna try a test panel this weekend just to make sure. i'll take some pics of that.
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Ahhh, ok. I must have misread or something, I thought I seen you say urethane single stage with an enamel clear. When I was talking to my painter, he sorta cringed and said "I'd never do it".
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Ahhh, ok. I must have misread or something, I thought I seen you say urethane single stage with an enamel clear. When I was talking to my painter, he sorta cringed and said "I'd never do it".
neither would i.
You can spray urethane clear over alkyd enamel or acrylic enamel but the requirement is you must activate (hardener) the enamel and let set 4 hours or overnight for best results and then clear

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Old 11-14-2010, 12:16 AM   #11
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Got a little bit done today. Gonna have to pick up another paint gun. One we had just took a crap. It was a cheap Walmart brand. Knew we were gonna have to get one anyways. Spent most of the day cleaning up the garage where we're gonna paint the truck. Got a few things done to the truck itself. So no paint this weekend, everything was kinda out of place, had to look for everything when we started to do things, but it's getting there.
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Here's the pic of my cousins Iroc S10. It was taken at a car show that they were holding downtown at the Von Braun Center. Sorry it's not good quality. it's a scanned pic. It's all he has is photos. None on disc or so forth.
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i can smell the paint in the air already !!!
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:15 PM   #15
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we got a new paint gun ordered. so this weekend we'll be working on finishing up the paint booth. you can see it in the pics above, but it's a 24x22 building in front of the truck.
it's not the small garage you see in other pic. gotta get my mom's van and cousins mustang out of there and finish cleaning up. making a temporary set of doors. then we maybe can start doing some painting.

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Old 11-16-2010, 09:05 PM   #16
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Making some great progress. Can't wait to see what it looks like with some paint on it. I think it's gonna look awesome.
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:22 PM   #17
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thanks. we've decided to hold off on paint. just not right weatherwise. besides that, we still have the cowl hood to fab and some more electrical stuff to hook up. gonna put the hangers in the rear back to original position and do a drop kit, and get some three inch spindels for the front.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:37 PM   #18
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if i haven't told u ur truck is a inspiration for my truck..... keep it up.... how did u lower the front?
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if i haven't told u ur truck is a inspiration for my truck..... keep it up.... how did u lower the front?
THANK YOU we cut 1 full coil off the front
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:49 AM   #21
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nice build ,is it painted yet?
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nice build ,is it painted yet?
he was tellling me ther wont be work on it for awile cuz of family problems

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My stepdad just passed away this past weekend, and he was the only father that I ever knew
He had walked over from his apartment across the street and saw what we had done to the truck a few months ago. With a big smile on his face, he said he liked that. "Taught you well, didn't I boy?" So we've decided to go with a little different route. A long time ago, me and him built a dragster kinda. Got the motor and tranny, but never did finish. So we're going with a bigger motor, and a few more changes before we go to paint. I'm hoping I will be able to change the build thread to honor his memory and what he meant to me and our family. Thank you... Gary.
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Wow man, Im sorry to hear that. If you ever need any help, you know where I live, just give me a holler.
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