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drewskiren · 12-05-2010, 10:07 PM

Grinding all the welds down still. Going back and welding again when I find a hole. First I have been grinding them pretty close with the cut off wheel, then finishing with the flap disk. The whole weld area will end up being lower than the adjacent areas slightly which will make it easy to have a thin layer of filler/ thick primer for blocking out before paint.

**67cheby** · 12-06-2010, 10:44 AM

looking great

drewskiren · 12-11-2010, 01:05 AM

Now we go into uncharted territory.

I really want this truck to be one I WANT to drive, all the time. So I need to make it as functional, smooth, fast, efficient, good driving, and quiet as a new truck. I figured the easiest and best way to go about it was to have as much modern equipment as possible, including the frame and modern suspension geometry. (4 wheel disc with ABS, factory rack & pinion, etc.) So here we are with a 2001 2wd Silverado frame. Problem is, nobody has done any write-ups on something like this. I will be engineering this as I go and could probably use some ideas from you guys here on the forum. Let the comments fly!

First thing I see tonight is the carrier bearing mount is way too tall. (The hoop looking thing.)
Body mounts on the frame aren't needed because the 72 body mounts line up perfectly with the wider new frame rails.
Overall frame length will need to grow by approximately 4 inches.
Too much frame kick up in the rear.

67chevy1series · 12-11-2010, 01:12 AM

best of luck frame work is a lways kinda the most important but not really as fun as body work or putting an engine in, good luck

classicchev · 12-11-2010, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

best of luck frame work is a lways kinda the most important but not really as fun as body work or putting an engine in, good luck

I personally like the frame portion. Taking the dirtiest part, and reworking with new clean parts and then there a re the details that not very many people will see.

67chevy1series · 12-11-2010, 01:34 AM

true classic chev very true

VA72C10 · 12-11-2010, 01:57 AM

cool! Looking forward to this part!

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-11-2010, 02:40 AM

You can more than likely ditch the carrier bearing cross member and relocate it how you want and where you need it once you get the rear axle and power train set in the chassis. As for the frame kick up being too high, you could do some figuring and this might be an idea. Right where it kicks up starting before the last cab mount, and before the spring mount, try to find how much kick up you need. Cut the frame at maybe a 45* cut somewhere in that area. Remove some material needed to get the kick up you desire. Cut the other at 45*, bevel each side, weld up, then plate the inside and either bolt this in or weld it in. Then place your rear axle and figure out where you can add your 4" of frame to achieve your desired wheel base. Good luck with this portion of the project. It is coming along nicely!

hgs_notes · 12-11-2010, 10:04 AM

I wonder if the rear section of the frame from a 2001 suburban or tahoe is the same profile. I have a 2003 yukon denali, but haven't looked underneath it much.

**67cheby** · 12-11-2010, 10:13 AM

cant wait to see more of this

drewskiren · 12-11-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hgs_notes

I wonder if the rear section of the frame from a 2001 suburban or tahoe is the same profile. I have a 2003 yukon denali, but haven't looked underneath it much.

It will be very different from the truck frame.
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**thelonerife** · 12-12-2010, 11:11 PM

Good job on it Drew. Wish I lived closer so I could give you a hand.

drewskiren · 12-13-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thelonerife

Good job on it Drew. Wish I lived closer so I could give you a hand.

That would be great, if only.

On another note, I will be unable to do much until after Christmas.

68 TT · 12-13-2010, 05:05 PM

If it is just the location of the kick up being too far forward to work you could section the frame and move the kick up rearward where it will work. Then all you have to do it add some extra material up front to create the wheel base you need.

I did this on my 67 K10 conversion to make a square body chassis fit the body better without need for a body lift.

toomanytoyz · 12-14-2010, 08:12 PM

Jusr read your entire Build & am Quite impressed by Your Build, Excellent Documentation for all who may wish to copy your Design. Also quite Impressed by the Fact that your Family is Involved.......

I Really enjoy my Current 86 Crew Stepper & One of my long term goals is to Have a 67-68 Style Crew Stepper some day, I have been collecting parts for a couple yrs now & Hope to Start sometime in next yr or so........

Here is a Pic of my 86 Crew Cab & a Photo Shop of what i hope my 67-68 Crew will come out Like......

Thanks & Merry Christmas.

Rick

drewskiren · 12-14-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 68 TT

If it is just the location of the kick up being too far forward to work you could section the frame and move the kick up rearward where it will work. Then all you have to do it add some extra material up front to create the wheel base you need.

I did this on my 67 K10 conversion to make a square body chassis fit the body better without need for a body lift.

I have been studying this a lot and it would be cake if I was building a 4wd. Building a lowered truck makes it very hard. I think now I will have to employ an old hot rodders trick and "channel" the body down over the frame. I will need to do this on the bed section only and will only channel the bed cross braces on the bottom of the bed for 2 inches, not the entire bed floor. Also will need to take out 3 inches off of the frame rise.

What I think I know so far:
99-2006 frames have a 9.5 inch rise or kick up for the bed.
The bodies on these trucks really hang down over the frame.
The new truck frame is 2 inches taller than my old frame, 4 inches wider.
67-72 truck bodies only hang down over the frame about 4.5 inches, so I need to keep the cab as close to the frame as possible to help hide the taller frame.
Old truck frames only kick up about 4.5 inches, So I need to come up with 5 inches of bed drop some how. (if I mounted the body and bed how they are now, the bodyline would be off by 5 inches)
All of these numbers are preliminary and will probably be adjusted somewhat.

BLAZERMAN · 12-14-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by toomanytoyz

Jusr read your entire Build & am Quite impressed by Your Build, Excellent Documentation for all who may wish to copy your Design. Also quite Impressed by the Fact that your Family is Involved.......

I Really enjoy my Current 86 Crew Stepper & One of my long term goals is to Have a 67-68 Style Crew Stepper some day, I have been collecting parts for a couple yrs now & Hope to Start sometime in next yr or so........

Here is a Pic of my 86 Crew Cab & a Photo Shop of what i hope my 67-68 Crew will come out Like......

Thanks & Merry Christmas.

Rick

Or maybe an 8 footer??

67chevy1series · 12-14-2010, 11:34 PM

wow that is too long

trukzguy · 12-15-2010, 01:40 AM

Build looks awesome,keep up the great work. Its getting me motivated.just subscribed.

ERASER5 · 12-15-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

wow that is too long

That always cracks me up!

Trucks, the only time a guy will say "Mine's shorter than your's!"

JohnC · 12-15-2010, 10:23 AM

Splash4195 · 12-15-2010, 10:42 AM

Very cool!

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-15-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

wow that is too long

That looks perfect.

ksbrktracer · 12-15-2010, 06:09 PM

Doesnt the red one look like it had a dodge pu grafted on the back of the cab ......?

**Dieselwrencher** · 12-15-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ksbrktracer

Doesnt the red one look like it had a dodge pu grafted on the back of the cab ......?

That's just how they look when a surburban is cut down to a crew cab and the high roof is left.

12-05-2010, 10:07 PM	#226
drewskiren Lucky Teter at the wheel Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,896	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. Grinding all the welds down still. Going back and welding again when I find a hole. First I have been grinding them pretty close with the cut off wheel, then finishing with the flap disk. The whole weld area will end up being lower than the adjacent areas slightly which will make it easy to have a thin layer of filler/ thick primer for blocking out before paint. Attached Images __________________ Drew YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (Finished with MAJOR Surgery - IT'S ALIVE!!!) The Bride is currently under the knife! Last edited by drewskiren; 12-07-2010 at 12:51 AM.

12-06-2010, 10:44 AM	#227
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12-11-2010, 01:05 AM	#228
drewskiren Lucky Teter at the wheel Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,896	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. Now we go into uncharted territory. I really want this truck to be one I WANT to drive, all the time. So I need to make it as functional, smooth, fast, efficient, good driving, and quiet as a new truck. I figured the easiest and best way to go about it was to have as much modern equipment as possible, including the frame and modern suspension geometry. (4 wheel disc with ABS, factory rack & pinion, etc.) So here we are with a 2001 2wd Silverado frame. Problem is, nobody has done any write-ups on something like this. I will be engineering this as I go and could probably use some ideas from you guys here on the forum. Let the comments fly! First thing I see tonight is the carrier bearing mount is way too tall. (The hoop looking thing.) Body mounts on the frame aren't needed because the 72 body mounts line up perfectly with the wider new frame rails. Overall frame length will need to grow by approximately 4 inches. Too much frame kick up in the rear. Attached Images __________________ Drew YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN (Finished with MAJOR Surgery - IT'S ALIVE!!!) The Bride is currently under the knife! Last edited by drewskiren; 12-11-2010 at 01:27 AM.

12-11-2010, 01:12 AM	#229
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. best of luck frame work is a lways kinda the most important but not really as fun as body work or putting an engine in, good luck

12-11-2010, 01:34 AM	#231
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. true classic chev very true

12-11-2010, 01:57 AM	#232
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12-11-2010, 02:40 AM	#233
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,142	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. You can more than likely ditch the carrier bearing cross member and relocate it how you want and where you need it once you get the rear axle and power train set in the chassis. As for the frame kick up being too high, you could do some figuring and this might be an idea. Right where it kicks up starting before the last cab mount, and before the spring mount, try to find how much kick up you need. Cut the frame at maybe a 45* cut somewhere in that area. Remove some material needed to get the kick up you desire. Cut the other at 45, bevel each side, weld up, then plate the inside and either bolt this in or weld it in. Then place your rear axle and figure out where you can add your 4" of frame to achieve your desired wheel base. Good luck with this portion of the project. It is coming along nicely! __________________ Ryan 1972* Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.* Last edited by Dieselwrencher; 12-11-2010 at 02:40 AM.

12-11-2010, 10:04 AM	#234
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12-11-2010, 10:13 AM	#235
67cheby 67cheby Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: siloam springs ar 72761 Posts: 17,890	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. cant wait to see more of this __________________ Check out Slosh Tubz, bolt-in inner fenders for frame laying C-10's Slosh Tubz Introductory Price $559 67 Cheby's Dropmember Build Thread Slosh Tubz on Facebook http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554172

12-12-2010, 11:11 PM	#237
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12-13-2010, 05:05 PM	#239
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12-14-2010, 08:12 PM	#240
toomanytoyz Luv the Crewcabs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Andrews, In. 46702 Posts: 4,097	Re: YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN The truck Chevrolet should have built. Jusr read your entire Build & am Quite impressed by Your Build, Excellent Documentation for all who may wish to copy your Design. Also quite Impressed by the Fact that your Family is Involved....... I Really enjoy my Current 86 Crew Stepper & One of my long term goals is to Have a 67-68 Style Crew Stepper some day, I have been collecting parts for a couple yrs now & Hope to Start sometime in next yr or so........ Here is a Pic of my 86 Crew Cab & a Photo Shop of what i hope my 67-68 Crew will come out Like...... Thanks & Merry Christmas. Rick Attached Images __________________ 55 Nomad 52 Willys Truck 67 Stepper 67 Fleet 68 Wrecker 68 Suburban 76 Crewcab 79 Gmc Dumptruck 84 Blazer 86 Crewcab Stepside 87 Iroc 89 GMC Plow Truck 91 Camaro Vert 96 Z71 Stepsde

12-14-2010, 11:34 PM	#243
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12-15-2010, 01:40 AM	#244
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