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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
Looks good Vic! Can't wait to see it this weekend. Call or text when you're in the Houston area.
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But the more serious problem is with the serpentine belt. I noticed yesterday after about 250 miles that the AC was cycling a lot. We pulled into a truck stop for a break and when we went to leave, the belt was squealing like pig. Turned off the air and it finally settled down, but when it's not running you can see black specks in the pulley grooves which is a sure sign the belt is self destructing. I'll pick up a spare this morning and some belt dressing, but there's no way I'm driving 3000 miles without AC. We're going to try to make Houston this weekend but if the belt problem persists, we may have to trailer it back to KC, revise our vacation route and take the Daytona for the remainder. Fingers crossed!
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Wish you the best of luck on the trip Vic..
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i know I am the wrong way but if you need help on your return trip I am in winfield and would be happy to assist... I think you have my phone number
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The belt conditioner helped a little bit and I had a new, spare serpentine belt just in case. Truck still starts hard, but it does start. The belt squealing was almost nonexistent and we were able to run the AC since the windows were up all day. Looks like the LMC truck show may see some rain tomorrow but Saturday should be very nice. Will post pictures when I get some.
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Glad you made it... The last 3 years that I know of that show had gotten rain at least one day of the show... LOL
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Glad to hear you made it safe and sound without anymore problems.
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Glad you made it. Hopefully you wont have any more issues with the belt. I bet there will be some tuners there that can help you out with your starting issue. Just curious, what does it sound like when starting? Does it sound normal but just not start or does it sound really labored? Does anything come out of the exhaust when you do start it? I'm curious of two things... 1) do you have enough fuel pressure when starting it initially, or is it having to build up pressure before it does start? 2) If it's labored, is your battery low, or is there some sort of mechanical interference the engine has to overcome?
Just spit balling trying to get the gears turning for a diagnosis. Hope you get it figured out soon. Good luck!
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I didn't get a chance to call March about the belt issue, so that will have to wait until Monday now. We ran the AC from McAlester to Gainsville yesterday without any issues. Belt still squeals occasionally... usually right after starting. At this point, I don't know if it's the tensioner or one of the accessories. The PS pump has had a very low growl from the beginning, but the fluid in the tank is clear as a bell and both the steering and the hydraulic brake booster work like a charm. We're headed to Houston tomorrow after the show. I'll PM you about a time to come visit.
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Hey Vic did the engine start hard before it was "tuned" or is this only happening after?
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You probably won't be able to try this until you get home, but if you have a way to bypass the AK system, you could test to see if it fires right up without it.
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Glad you're still rolling! Hope it's going well!
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We're still fighting some issues, but we're slowly winning. There's a problem between the ignition switch and the starter solenoid that I'll have to address when we get home. After we left the show on Saturday, we stopped to eat and the truck wouldn't even turn over. I finally MacGyver'd it by cutting the wire going into the solenoid, splicing some wire onto it and touching the bare end momentarily to the positive battery post. With the ignition on, it fires right up. So that's how we're starting it right now. We decided the problem with the belt was that it was too long to start with and had stretched just enough to start slipping. I talked to March today and they said it would be fine to go to a 75.5" belt instead of the 76". I'm betting they didn't factor in the small diameter pulley on the alternator when they did their belt calculations. I had bought a brand new 76" and it was even looser than the one that was on there when we tried it. So we dropped back to 75.5" and it's nice and tight. No more squealing belt (knock on wood). We developed a rattle underneath the truck on the way down, so while we had it up on ramps to install the belt, my bud, Bruce, found that the bolt holding the bottom of the RF fender to the rocker panel had worked loose and fallen out. We replaced it and the rattle is gone. The PWM controller for the electric fans has been forcing the fans to run at way too low a temperature. So we adjusted it some to delay the onset of the fan signal. I plan to replace the controller with a fan relay that's switched via the fan output from the ECU when I get back home. The LMC show in Fort Worth was fun, but there were several, pro-built, no expense spared 67-72 trucks there that grabbed the awards for our series. My bud, Jay, struck out with his '52 5-window also and it's super nice. I really didn't see anyone that looked like "judges" stop and give our trucks a once over. Late in the day, a guy on a four wheeler came by going from truck to truck putting stickers on them to indicate they'd been judged. So I reckon they were doing that to keep the riffraff quiet. ![]()
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That's the type of shake down I use to do after a fresh build years ago. Now I'm to scared to attempt a long drive. Keep the updates coming.
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Glad you're gaining ground. How's the ride on the bags?
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![]() Thanks, Chip. The ride is reasonably good. However, I talked to the guys from QA1 at the show and they gave me their recommendation for shocks based on the suspension mods I've made. I'll probably look into a set this summer. Lots of other things to address first. I rigged up a wire direct from the ignition switch to the starter solenoid so I don't have to pop the hood to crank the engine. It's still hard to start. Seems like it cranks for a long time without starting, but if you pause and try again, it fires right up on the second try. Found out how much fuel it takes to fill the Boyd tank... 17.2 gallons. We'd filled up last in Waco and I'd been meaning to refuel here in Houston, but never did, so I was cruising down the street with one of my buds yesterday and it shut off with no warning. Was able to coast to a side street and use the emergency two gallon jug I keep in the back to get going again. Went directly to the nearest gas station and filled up. We've been recording the miles and filling up every 200 miles or so, but with all the visiting with friends and family it slipped my mind. Few more show photos below...
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We made it back to KC, but not under our own power. About 10 miles north of Nacogdoches, TX CRLS nosed over and quit running. We were able to coast onto a little side road and call a tow truck. The check engine light was on and I could start it momentarily, but it blubbered and gagged and wouldn't stay running. The driver took us to the Chevy dealer in Nacogdoches but they refused to work on it... said they wouldn't be able to read the codes. I reckon they just didn't want to mess with it. They did suggest another place in town, so the driver took us there and dropped us off. They were able to scan the codes and identify the problem as the fuel pump. Since the bed has to come off to access the fuel tank, we decided to rent a U-Haul truck and trailer and tow it home. We revised our vacation plans and transferred all our stuff to the car and will fix Crusty when we get back. There are several other problems I need to address as well. The PS pump pulley is slightly out of alignment causing a bit of belt noise, the neutral safety switch is on the fritz and we used a quart of oil in the first 1500 miles. I think the Elite Engineering catch can system for the PCV is working a bit too well. I'll get it all sorted.
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Dang that sucks. Glad that you go home safe.
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I'm sorry to hear this.
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Yep, it sure does, but the silver lining is that we were able to check in on Pops while we were home plus the car will be much more spacious for the remainder of the trip.
Thanks, Dale. New build bugs are inevitable it seems like... at least for me. ![]()
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Sorry to hear how the trip ended, but the first part looked pretty good! It's frustrating, but I'm sure you'll get it ironed out real soon.
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Was it the Boyd in tank pump?
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Vic,
What a disappoin that I didn’t catch you at the C10 nationals, I’ve been a follower and have so many of your post listed in notes for reference. I really appreciate how much info you share and the quality of the build, although what you’ve gone through is a big PITA, you’ll come out stellar....great build.
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![]() Not exactly. Full disclosure... I looked at the $350 Aeromotive Stealth 340 pump that's an option for the tank and took a pass. Instead, ordered that exact pump online for about half the price and made my own in tank clone of the Boyd unit. However, I'm not convinced the pump has failed. When I got home, I had to use the come along to winch the truck over the stops on the trailer. When it got on level ground, it would start just briefly, gag and sputter till it died. It might move a few feet under its own power before croaking. We live on a slight hill and once I got 'er moving, I coasted all the way around to the workshop at the back of the house. Slammed on the brakes, pushed it back to get lined up good and then figured it would take 20 tries to get it up the slight incline into the shop. To my surprise, it fired and ran well enough to make it all the way in the shop on the first try. So now I'm thinking I may have crap in the tank. Two times on the trip I filled up with mid-grade fuel instead of premium and both times the truck heaved a fit. The first time it developed the hard to start problem and the last time was about 30 miles before it died. Quote:
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Aw, Maaaannnn..... Glad everyone's home safe. Enjoy your trip!
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