Project Vitamin C-10

[57truckguy]

Alan here are a couple of pics of the GM switch I used for the brake lights. Used to have one of thoes pressure switches on the main brake line.. just didn't seem to work all the time. this has been perfect. I think it could be adapted to work on the emergercy brake.

[57truckguy]

also here is a couple pics of the custom door panels I made from scratch. since these trucks had didly for interior, the misses needed some creature comfort.

[57truckguy]

Just wanted to say that the entire interior was made, except the seats, without a sewing machine... entirely chip board and glue. After I get them reinstalled I'll send pics. if you want.

Oh by the way the holes in the panel are for the arm rest to attach to the door, the speakes mounting point and the opening handle.

[66farmer]

I would like to add my two cents to the welder question, I have had a Millermatic 35 for years good welder but not good on sheet metal. I bought a Hobart Rancher 140 from Northern Tool for $499 including cart and shipping.
The Hobart works (GREAT)

[Strodder]

The smaller welders work good on sheet metal, but doesn't penetrate good on thicker metal, like a frame.

[McMurphy]

Thank you Alan, and all the others who replied about the welders. I think there is one of the Lincolns at the local hockshop for $225. I will pop in there today after work and take a look at it.

Yep that Needle Scaler is exactly what I had in mind !!

You guys rock !!

[65Custom]

your right Allen every time I'm headed north on 575 I think the same thing too I say to myself I need to get up there and check it out

[57truckguy]

My 2 cents worth.

I also have a small welder, off brand, does a ok job on up to 1/4 inch but i've( meaning my skills) are lacking in welding sheet metal. fortunately I've made an friend who welds for a living. He builds staninless steel and other metal headers for dragsters and high end hot rods.. He is a real artist.. He wants to build a set of headers for my truck with the BB but I've not seen the need thus far. Not a drag car, just a daily driver type.

[shrunken66stroker]

Slick!

[65Custom]

yep cool idea to move them up to where they cant be seen I am a believer of the minimalist look, or clean un-cluttered look Alan is an artist

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker

Slick!

Originally Posted by 65Custom

yep cool idea to move them up to where they cant be seen I am a believer of the minimalist look, or clean un-cluttered look Alan is an artist

Thanks guys!!

Got the bracket finished up. By keeping them up higher and sheltered it should keep them dry as well.

I'm trying to figure out what AWG size is required for 20 amps, from the chart I found says a 16 AWG will carry 22 amps. The conductor size is .0508. The wires on the 12v feed to the relays measures about .090" (stripped) which shows on the chart to be a 11 AWG. I feel I should match the wire size that feeds the relay from the battery.

The fan relay says 20 amps continous, but it has a 30 amp fuse.

I have some left over wire from the main harness that measures .090". I will just use that to feed the relays.

On the headlight relays I plan on feed 12v via one wire from the battery and split it to the relays. I will install a 20 amp circuit breaker on the single wire.

For those of you that are following this thread and are wiring up your truck, don't listen to me. I'm asking questions and faking it til I make it here.

[66BowTieBoy]

Oh Alan, it's almost as beautiful as your wood.....!

You are my inspiration...!

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Oh Alan, it's almost as beautiful as your wood.....!

You are my inspiration...!

Thanks Danny, do you have any inputs on some of my electrical ramblings in my last post?
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[Alan's Classic]

Relay question. Does it really matter if I hook up 12v signal from the dimmer switch to terminal 85 or 86? It looks to me that it is just firing the coil. I have conflicting schematics in front of me. One shows power coming in on 85 and ground on 86 and visa versa.

I almost made the mistake of hooking up the red wire on the relay pigtail to the battery. Upon further investigation the blue wire on terminal #30 is the main feed from the battery.

What is the 87A terminal for? It's looking like I will have an extra wire coming from 87A which happens to be the red wire.

[Alan's Classic]

I got the 20 amp CB mounted for the headlights. Then mformed some soft aluminum tubing to route the wires for HI/LOW beams and fan relay. Thank goodness I used soft aluminum. It's so much easier to work with.

[66BowTieBoy]

Hey Alan,

Here is a little diagram I keep handy, cuz with only two working braincells, I forget a lot. I don't see where it should make any difference which direction the current flows thru the coil, it's still go'na close the circuit.

Danny

P.S. I did not know you worked on Jets, but after seeing your handy-work it does not surprise me...

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Hey Alan,

Here is a little diagram I keep handy, cuz with only two working braincells, I forget a lot. I don't see where it should make any difference which direction the current flows thru the coil, it's still go'na close the circuit.

Danny

P.S. I did not know you worked on Jets, but after seeing your handy-work it does not surprise me...

Thanks Danny, that pic will come in handy. I'm definately more comfortable with relays since I finally underestand them. It's basically a switch.

Today I've removed the red wire from the center of the connector for 87A. If I would have realized this 2 days ago I would have moved the red wire to terminal 30 where the blue wire is now. I suppose it's not to late to do it now. I just don't like any other color than red feeding 12v.

Thought about going to the local junkyard today for some weatherpack connectors. Decided to just order them.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

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Today I've removed the red wire from the center of the connector for 87A. If I would have realized this 2 days ago I would have moved the red wire to terminal 30 where the blue wire is now. I suppose it's not to late to do it now. I just don't like any other color than red feeding 12v.

That's what I did.

[jason65]

Beautiful work Alan.
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[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

That's what I did.

It's starting to make sense.

Originally Posted by jason65

Beautiful work Alan.
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Thanks Jason, I wonder every now and then what ever happened to you. Hope all is well.

Any suggestions here. I bought a 59 impala temp sensor a couple years ago not thinking about the connector part. It's a pin style and I don't have a connector that style. What Chevy's ran a temp sensor with a blade style? Maybe the 70's had some. Do y'all think it would work if I could locate one? I've been googling it and searching parts stores and have yet to come up with anything.

Ok, I might have found a solution here

[Alan's Classic]

I'm having second thoughts of running painted silver bumpers to match the roof. Leaning towards chrome instead. Any thoughts?

[Vernski]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I'm having second thoughts of running painted silver bumpers to match the roof. Leaning towards chrome instead. Any thoughts?

My mind votes Chrome....Vernski

[Strodder]

They have that connector in the American Auto Wire kit. You are using that wiring aren't you?

I'm a chrome whore, so I say CHROME. Also it's practical as it won't get road chips. I would go with a chrome grill also to match the bumper. I was going to paint my grill, but now that I have a chrome one, I'm glad I made that choice.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Vernski

My mind votes Chrome....Vernski

Thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Alan I hope it helps but in my fumbling around I bow to the masters and found a guy on the net who seems to fit that bill.. He states that 30 should always be power with a fuse of some kind, 85 always goes to ground, 86 to a switch of some kind, be it manual or automatic, 87 is the output to fans, lights and etc. 87a to power a second electrical device when 87 ie light or fan is off. wire to 30 and from 87 should be of the same size, 85 can be smaller since it is only a ground and usually short, and wire to 86 can be smaller as it is used only to trigger or turn on the relay. Clear as mud.. ???? I have more diagrams if you need and can post tomorrow or sunday if you need. actually I think that is today since it is after midnight.. Ha ha !!!

when I sent him an email years ago asking the same question about if it makes and difference which way to connect, he said that later on I would benfit if my wiring conformed to some standard and would ease stacing problems in the future.

Thanks for telling me what 87a did. Now I completely understand a relay now.

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Oh I vote CHROME all the way..

Originally Posted by pdxhall

Can't say chrome or paint cause it's been so long since seeing anything but bits and pieces of the truck. How about an updated pic of the full truck?

These are 2 of the latest full view. Hope it's enough.

Originally Posted by Strodder

They have that connector in the American Auto Wire kit. You are using that wiring aren't you?

I'm a chrome whore, so I say CHROME. Also it's practical as it won't get road chips. I would go with a chrome grill also to match the bumper. I was going to paint my grill, but now that I have a chrome one, I'm glad I made that choice.

I thought it came in the kit as well. I looked for it last night. No luck. I looked again today with fresh eyes and more light and found it. By looking at it it's kind of deceiving. It looks like I will have to cut the tab off for it to clip on.

I still might run a painted grill, sice i have a prestine one.



I'm going to redo the tube and make it come straight down to the sensor.



Thanks to Shannon again, he provided me with some SS material that I can make some ground straps out of. Thanks Buddy.



I discovered the main cause of this. Which cause the bed wood not to layflat across the sill.



I forgot to install the bolts in the very back holes of the bedside into the rear sill. It was allowing the sill to roll. It helped a lot, but sill had to use a BFH.



Looks better now. I need another person to help me get it all bolted down.

[57truckguy]

Alan I hope it helps but in my fumbling around I bow to the masters and found a guy on the net who seems to fit that bill.. He states that 30 should always be power with a fuse of some kind, 85 always goes to ground, 86 to a switch of some kind, be it manual or automatic, 87 is the output to fans, lights and etc. 87a to power a second electrical device when 87 ie light or fan is off. wire to 30 and from 87 should be of the same size, 85 can be smaller since it is only a ground and usually short, and wire to 86 can be smaller as it is used only to trigger or turn on the relay. Clear as mud.. ???? I have more diagrams if you need and can post tomorrow or sunday if you need. actually I think that is today since it is after midnight.. Ha ha !!!

when I sent him an email years ago asking the same question about if it makes and difference which way to connect, he said that later on I would benfit if my wiring conformed to some standard and would ease stacing problems in the future.