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Thanks for the nice words everyone. I know this looks like another trip down show truck lane, but underneath the covers it isn't. True to my original goal, I've kept the 6 lug drum brakes and I'm using as much of the existing hardware as possible. I'm focused on replacing anything I deem unsafe which happens to include rotted out floorboards that could easily yield in an accident. The cleanup stuff is just my anal retentive nature. But even that has its limits. This time around, I bought Chassis Saver paint for the frame and suspension pieces instead of powdercoating. It's tough walking the line between cost and quality. I once worked for a guy who told me, "Anyone can smother a fire with money." I'm trying to keep that in mind.
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08-22-2013, 05:43 PM | #2 |
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Vic I really like those centercaps, they compliment the style of wheel nicely.
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Vic,
where did you go for the plating? was that local, or did you send it out? and if you don't mind me asking, how much do they charge for the service? looking at having several brackets/door hardware done like yours....thanks and great looking progress!!!! Ben |
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Good lord... It's been 24 YEARS since I heard the term Snipes Castle! I believe he went to Detray Plating Works, Independence, MO. It's right off Truman Rd, just west of the railroad bridge.
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Low Elco,
Yeah, I'm a retired Navy Squid (1st Class Engineman) I believe that name originated at a base enlisted club at "Great Mistakes" (great lakes basic training center in Waukegan,Il.) I'll look into the plating info, thanks! Ben Smith |
08-23-2013, 01:09 PM | #6 |
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Hey, Ben! Aviation Electronics Tech 2nd class '66-'70 here. Chip is correct, I went to Detray on 11th in Independence. Good folks. Due to inflation and environmental regs, cost is higher than back in the 80's down in Houston, but still less expensive than all new hardware. Cost for everything, brackets, latches, rods, nuts, bolts and etc. was $175. That's $25 higher than when I had it done May of last year. Of course, they had a fire since then and the TV stations were crawling all over them.
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Fired up the new plasma cutter this morning and hacked thru the cross pin on the 12 bolt. Glad I bought extra consumables. The space was so confined, the blowback wasted the two tips that came with it. However, it got the job done. Having never used one before, it was quite the experience. Pull the trigger and all hell breaks loose. Now I can get busy setting up the rearend. Think I'll go with the gov bomb and 3.08's to start with since there is no cost for that option. Later on, if it grenades, I can upgrade. Also managed to get the front down on the ground. Forgot to order new pittman and idler arms, so it will be Tuesday before they arrive from RockAuto and I can finish the steering linkage.
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Vic,
That's great! I did talk to detray this afternoon, said the bare minimum was $125.00 should just about cover anything I need plated. My uncle races Modified's at Valley Speedway, in Grain Valley,mo. He just built a powdercoating oven for all his modified cars, and he is coating my chassis "Ink Black" today. I am going to powder coat all the suspension pieces in "Super Chrome & clear, just to be different.my '71 is going to be all black with the factory trim. I'm going to install a LQ9 6.0 from a chevy 2500HD truck, LS1 intake and GTO manifolds. My Brother-in-law does tranmsmissions, and he is building me a stout 700R4 for this truck. I'm going a different route for a rear end though....I bought a 2001 Ford Explorer 8.8 disc brake differential, has 3:73 gears and a locker diff. all the hard work was already done for me-all brackets cut off, ground smooth and the axle tubes were welded to the center section, all I have to do now is weld my axle perches and set pinion angle and attach e brake cables and plumb hoses and tubing.....once I get the chassis done, on to rust repair and body work... this was a non air cab, I'm converting mine to air as I go. I have most of the parts to make it work, still looking for a pre-Vortec V6 air conditioning bracket for a R4 compressor to work with my LQ9 accessories though..... well, I have to run, take care and great progress! Ben |
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Been there many times, walked up from hospital side, Corpsman 89-90.
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08-23-2013, 04:17 PM | #10 |
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I'm glad everything went according to plan with the cross pin, I bet that is a load off of your mind, now you can get the rear axle installed, bolt the wheels on, set it on the ground and smile with satisfaction.
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Amen to that. Axle bearings and seals were junk. One came completely apart when I pulled them. Headed down to auto parts for replacements. The family car took a dump yesterday and we had to call a tow truck to haul it to the dealer. We're driving a courtesy car, so I may load up the housing and take it to the car wash while I'm at it. Outside is spotless, but the inside is seriously gunk'd up.
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Spent more time than I planned on the rear axle, but it turned out nice which is what counts. After cleaning up the residue from burning out the cross pin, I installed the line up bar and found the axle tubes were tweaked. By applying some heat in the right spots, the tubes moved into place and I was ready to setup the gov bomb. Took several tries to get the pattern to come in ...I must really be getting old, but in the end it felt nice and smooth and the pattern was where it should be.
The urethane bushings for the trailing arms gave me fits also. When assembled, they were .100" too wide to fit between the tabs. Had to throw two of the pieces into the lathe and counterbore them so they would slip over the original metal housing. After that, they went together like they were meant to. Strong Arm kit for the trailing arms is on B/O, so they have yet to get a coat of paint. End result is, that after two days of "put together, take apart, repeat" I finally have it down on all four wheels. The rest of the parts for the steering linkage came in today and once I got the pieces trial assembled, I began to torque the fasteners. Started with the steering sector and on the fourth bolt as I was drawing it up, the head sheared off. You can see from the photo that there must have been a fracture thru half of it. Hazards of reusing hardware I guess, although this particular bolt was grade 8 which makes the fail a bit more surprising. Engine assembly is next.
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Lovin the build just keep tellin' yourself it's a "Daily Driver" . I noticed that you had a Grade * high strength bolt snap on you. I've delt with this in the past and it's called Hydrogen Embrittlement and occurs mostly in higher strength bolts it can be taken care of by doing some baking of the fasteners. I'm attaching some links for your reading pleasure. I'm not saying that this what's your problem but I'd hate to not say something and have one break at an bad time. Anyway great build!!! http://www.greensladeandcompany.com/...oks%20like.pdf http://ftp.rta.nato.int/public/PubFu...AVT-140-20.pdf
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Thanks again for the tech articles. For some reason, I'd always associated hydrogen embrittlement with stainless. Funny how some things get set in your way of thinking.
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Progress is looking great! Thanks again for the help today, Boppa's pretty stoked.
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We had a great time ...just two old guys trying to get some work done while trading lies. And as they say in Tejas, "First liar doesn't stand a chance".
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All I can said Wow, you are so meticulous with everything you touch. You're build is fun to watch.
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Thanks, Scott. You'll get a chance to see the rolling chassis at the Nats. Chip (Low Elco) will be trailering it out there behind his new ride.
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Great, I'm looking forward to meeting you guys, seeing the work you've done on your builds.
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Any idea how well the plating holds up? Looks like a good way of doing it
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Not all plating companies are created equal so you can't assume their process will give great results if you take them junk. I spent a lot of time prepping the fasteners by first soaking them in muriatic acid then neutralizing the acidic reaction with a baking soda and warm water rinse. After thoroughly drying them, I cleaned the remaining light surface rust in a glass bead cabinet. Doing this gave me the best shot at a nice finish. Just remember GIGO (garbage in, garbage out). One last thing about cadmium. Most plating companies have small tanks that won't accept really large items. For the big stuff you'll have to live with zinc. Both coatings are available in clear (silver) and yellow. However yellow cad has a very pleasing variegated finish with red and green highlights which is another reason I prefer it.
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<crowd_chanting="on"> Pictures, Pictures, Pictures! <crowd_chanting="off">
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Today was do or die for getting some color on the engine. Decided at the last minute yesterday that the Championship White I'd picked out was too light. The guys at Wholesale Paint adjusted the tint until I was satisfied with the look. More closely resembles heavy cream now than off white. No work tomorrow as we're having a family get together that will chew up the entire day ...but you gotta take time for family every once in a while.
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That white looks great! Plus it makes it easier to find oil leaks when they start! Lol I admire you having the guts to paint an engine white, it really DOES look great and I'm not sure I trust my mechanical abilities enough to trust white paint on an engine of mine
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I don't think I've had a gasket/seal last long enough to pull off white. But it does look awesome when it's in the vehicle.
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