1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project - Page 11 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

RANDY COX · 02-07-2013, 07:22 PM

Looks great what are your plans for the suburban.....

cAlvis165 · 02-07-2013, 10:20 PM

Who-hoo! Progress!! Looks great and I love the new shop as well.

_Ogre · 02-08-2013, 01:49 AM

nice shop and collection of classics

MrBeast · 02-08-2013, 03:44 AM

Sweet! That was pretty innovative cutting the dropped sections of frame out.

I am digging the new shop.

RockTonka · 02-09-2013, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC

Awesome, that looks really good! This thing is going to be sweet when done!
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Thanks, slowly but surely getting there...

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Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

Giggidy! Are you worried about the overall width of the 60 compared to the stock 2wd front axle?

The DRW 60 front is 77" WMS to WMS, the stock 58 is 71". The tires were a bit inside the fenders so we're thinking a inch or so sticking out with the 60. If it's awkward looking I can change the hubs out to SRW ones and run spacers to play with the width.

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Originally Posted by RANDY COX

Looks great what are your plans for the suburban.....

Check out the burb progress on the build thread in my sig...

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Originally Posted by cAlvis165

Who-hoo! Progress!! Looks great and I love the new shop as well.

Baby steps...

, yea, we're loving the shop too...Thanks!

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Originally Posted by _Ogre

nice shop and collection of classics

We're getting spoiled having them under one roof with room to work around and on them...

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Originally Posted by MrBeast

Sweet! That was pretty innovative cutting the dropped sections of frame out.

I am digging the new shop.

Thanks!

RockTonka · 02-10-2013, 07:30 AM

Spent the evening/morning getting the rear 14B cleaned up and under the chassis.
Stock springs in the back with 6 in. BDS springs up front leveled out the chassis perfectly

cAlvis165 · 02-10-2013, 08:51 AM

It's gonna' feel like you're driving a new truck when you finish!!

Keep up the great work.

RANDY COX · 02-10-2013, 09:53 AM

You guys must eat sleep,and live in that garage to get all that work done.my brother does too.i spent the day taking a 14bolt-ff out of my truck and putting a itty bitty 12 bolt 1/2 toner in it.....for better hi-way gears.my son decided to bail on me so it was just a father build.
You guys >rock<....

Wheelie · 02-10-2013, 10:47 AM

Kick ass!

6BT 56 · 02-10-2013, 12:32 PM

Yep it wont be long now. Once you have it able to roll it always inspires you to keep going . What are the plans for cab mounts etc? Driveline next before any cab related stuff?

Keep up the great work. You help motivate all of us!!

RockTonka · 02-10-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cAlvis165

It's gonna' feel like you're driving a new truck when you finish!!

Keep up the great work.

We're looking forward to it! Thank you!!

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Originally Posted by RANDY COX

You guys must eat sleep,and live in that garage to get all that work done.my brother does too.i spent the day taking a 14bolt-ff out of my truck and putting a itty bitty 12 bolt 1/2 toner in it.....for better hi-way gears.my son decided to bail on me so it was just a father build.
You guys >rock<....

W do spend alot of time hanging in the shop...its my favorite place!!

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Originally Posted by Wheelie

Kick ass!

Thanks!! We have our little spurts of progress every now and then...

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Originally Posted by 6BT 56

Yep it wont be long now. Once you have it able to roll it always inspires you to keep going . What are the plans for cab mounts etc? Driveline next before any cab related stuff?

Keep up the great work. You help motivate all of us!!

We've always moved forward when we've had some combination of time and funds coming together at the right time to fuel the inspiration

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We'll try and get the drivetrain in the chassis next before moving forward on the cab transplant.

And thanks for the kind remarks...it really motivates us to be able to show y'all the next step!

1985-GMC · 02-10-2013, 04:20 PM

Speaking of making decisions, did you ever consider putting a cummins in this truck?

Garys8 · 02-10-2013, 04:34 PM

I've lurked around a few of your threads and really like your trucks. Especially the before and after pictures, nicely done.

cAlvis165 · 02-10-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC

Speaking of making decisions, did you ever consider putting a cummins in this truck?

If I remember correctly, '4BT' was thrown around after they bought the bread van (which donated its axles). 454 gonna be cool though.

RockTonka · 02-10-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC

Speaking of making decisions, did you ever consider putting a cummins in this truck?

Yep, for a bit. cAlvis165 is right about the bread van drivetrain possibility, but we got the wheels off the van and traded everything else for engine, axle, tranny pieces...most of which we used. We just really like BBCs...I'm used to them!

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Originally Posted by Garys8

I've lurked around a few of your threads and really like your trucks. Especially the before and after pictures, nicely done.

Thanks! I appreciate your taking the time to let us know!!

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Originally Posted by cAlvis165

If I remember correctly, '4BT' was thrown around after they bought the bread van (which donated its axles). 454 gonna be cool though.

Yea, I hope so...

Luther Grimace · 02-10-2013, 11:34 PM

Those duals look amazing. You guys do great work. I am excited to see that drivetrain sitting in it. That frame turned out great.
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RockTonka · 02-15-2013, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Luther Grimace

Those duals look amazing. You guys do great work. I am excited to see that drivetrain sitting in it. That frame turned out great.
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Thanks Luther! We're trying to get the drivetrain mounted up soon, that always seems like a milestone.

Sharp eyes may have noticed that the calipers weren't mounted in the pics of the rolling chassis. The wheels were hitting the calipers about 1/2" before the WMS. The shortest spacer we could get was 1"...they fit fine now.

cAlvis165 · 02-15-2013, 09:19 AM

I'm not real familiar with duallies...do those two rims just bolt back to back on the same lugs? Looks like the spacers worked fine.

1985-GMC · 02-15-2013, 12:20 PM

Looks good! I would upgrade to some steel spacers later though.

Yep the two wheels go on at the same time then you bolt them both down.
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Dinos63 · 02-15-2013, 12:39 PM

always such cool work. the new frame is killer

RockTonka · 02-18-2013, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63

always such cool work. the new frame is killer

Thanks Dino!!

Working on both the burb and the 58 this weekend...not much to show for it, but pretty much got the drivetrain sitting in there. Few little issues getting it in there...block huggers don't fit and we'll have to rotate the alt from below the bracket we made to above it. Stock tranny crossmember won't work, we'll have to fab something up.

Dub_X · 02-18-2013, 08:39 AM

Well, you're about one step ahead of me at this point

I got my chassis rolling last night. Next step is engine, trans, and transfer case.

_Ogre · 02-18-2013, 02:14 PM

looks sooo simple here

i don't understand what's taking so long

jbclassix · 02-18-2013, 06:35 PM

Did you get your 205/4500 already assembled, or did you bolt them together? The reason I ask is I wanted to know if you have pictures of the coupler.

skymangs · 02-18-2013, 07:11 PM

Awesome build. Subscribed!

02-07-2013, 07:22 PM	#251
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks great what are your plans for the suburban..... __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

02-07-2013, 10:20 PM	#252
cAlvis165 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: N.E. OH Posts: 214	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Who-hoo! Progress!! Looks great and I love the new shop as well. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill DD 2000 Chevy Suburban 4x4/5.3 Vortec/4L60E/4:10s, 18" Escalade rims, Electric fans Project Dooley One-Ton 4x4 on 38.5s Corn-binder build

02-08-2013, 01:49 AM	#253
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,680	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project nice shop and collection of classics __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

02-08-2013, 03:44 AM	#254
MrBeast high-Tech Red Neck Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Livingston, MT/On my boat WA/BC/AK Posts: 2,294	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Sweet! That was pretty innovative cutting the dropped sections of frame out. I am digging the new shop. __________________ "He used to be a pretty nice feller, now he's a welder!"

02-10-2013, 07:30 AM	#256
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Spent the evening/morning getting the rear 14B cleaned up and under the chassis. Stock springs in the back with 6 in. BDS springs up front leveled out the chassis perfectly Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

02-10-2013, 08:51 AM	#257
cAlvis165 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: N.E. OH Posts: 214	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project It's gonna' feel like you're driving a new truck when you finish!! Keep up the great work. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill DD 2000 Chevy Suburban 4x4/5.3 Vortec/4L60E/4:10s, 18" Escalade rims, Electric fans Project Dooley One-Ton 4x4 on 38.5s Corn-binder build

02-10-2013, 09:53 AM	#258
RANDY COX Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: RADFORD, VA Posts: 2,651	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project You guys must eat sleep,and live in that garage to get all that work done.my brother does too.i spent the day taking a 14bolt-ff out of my truck and putting a itty bitty 12 bolt 1/2 toner in it.....for better hi-way gears.my son decided to bail on me so it was just a father build. You guys >rock<.... __________________ 1964 BBC 402 4x4

02-10-2013, 10:47 AM	#259
Wheelie Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 319	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Kick ass! __________________ My '59 Build Thread

02-10-2013, 12:32 PM	#260
6BT 56 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Coldwater On. Canada Posts: 551	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Yep it wont be long now. Once you have it able to roll it always inspires you to keep going . What are the plans for cab mounts etc? Driveline next before any cab related stuff? Keep up the great work. You help motivate all of us!! __________________ 56 gmc 4X4 Cummins 5 spd 60F 70R 2005 Ram 3500 DRW cummins 4X4. 2006 Conolift 9/15. 2011 F 350 winter beater New 2018 ram 3500 drw 4x4. Makes my 2005 Look as if it's been running on 4 cyl since new ! My Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556908

02-10-2013, 04:20 PM	#262
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Speaking of making decisions, did you ever consider putting a cummins in this truck? __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

02-10-2013, 04:34 PM	#263
Garys8 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Highland, Indiana Posts: 35	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I've lurked around a few of your threads and really like your trucks. Especially the before and after pictures, nicely done.

02-10-2013, 11:34 PM	#266
Luther Grimace Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Madison, AL Posts: 380	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Those duals look amazing. You guys do great work. I am excited to see that drivetrain sitting in it. That frame turned out great. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1955.2 Chevy 3100, 6bt, Getrag G360 5-speed, NP205, Dana 60/70 - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540 1992 Chevy K1500 Silverado ECSB 1965 "Crewcab" Chevelle 300 Deluxe - soon to be LBZ Duramax/4L85E powered

02-15-2013, 09:19 AM	#268
cAlvis165 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: N.E. OH Posts: 214	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I'm not real familiar with duallies...do those two rims just bolt back to back on the same lugs? Looks like the spacers worked fine. __________________ Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. Winston Churchill DD 2000 Chevy Suburban 4x4/5.3 Vortec/4L60E/4:10s, 18" Escalade rims, Electric fans Project Dooley One-Ton 4x4 on 38.5s Corn-binder build

02-15-2013, 12:20 PM	#269
1985-GMC Chevy Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canyon Lake Texas Posts: 2,024	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks good! I would upgrade to some steel spacers later though. Yep the two wheels go on at the same time then you bolt them both down. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Tony 1985 GMC K2500 restoration Project: Rust, White & Blue 1989 Chevy R3500 CC Cummins & 4X4 swap some day... 1989 Burb (D60, 14BFF, 12V, NV4500, NP205, 37" tires in progress)

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02-18-2013, 08:39 AM	#272
Dub_X Professional Crow Bar Tosser Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fairview, Missouri [Joplin Area] Posts: 872	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Well, you're about one step ahead of me at this point I got my chassis rolling last night. Next step is engine, trans, and transfer case. __________________ Will My Beast "Big Nasty": '92 GMC Sierra K1500 Ext. Cab L31 Swap 4x4 Conversion: 2" Body Lift, 3" Skyjacker Suspension Lift, 9.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 3:73 Gears, 350cid L31 Vortec 5700, 4L60-E Overdrive Automatic My Dad's Beast: CUSTOM '97 Chevrolet Silverado K3500 4-Door Mega Cab Project: 10.5" 14-Bolt G80 Rear, 4:10 Gears, 5.7L 350cid SBC Vortec, 4L80-E Overdrive Automatic "I'd rather PUSH my Chevy than DRIVE your Ford!"

02-18-2013, 02:14 PM	#273
_Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Motown Posts: 7,680	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project looks sooo simple here i don't understand what's taking so long __________________ cool, an ogre smiley Ogre's 58 Truk build how to put your truck year and build thread into your signature shop air compressor timer

02-18-2013, 06:35 PM	#274
jbclassix Junk Yartist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 2,203	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Did you get your 205/4500 already assembled, or did you bolt them together? The reason I ask is I wanted to know if you have pictures of the coupler. __________________ -Jeremy YOU ONLY FAIL IF YOU STOP TRYING 70 Crew Cab Build Link 70 GMC Suburban 4X4 build thread 95 Yukon Daily Driver Rebuilding an NP205

02-18-2013, 07:11 PM	#275
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