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Jvsapp · 09-03-2009, 05:45 AM

looks good FF. did you have to mod the tower alot? BTW is that rustreformer ok to weld on? doesn't throw off any caustic fumes? nice work on the firewall. looks clean. nice coat of paint will make it all worth while.

hgs_notes · 09-03-2009, 09:18 AM

Are you going to have some sort of bracing from the top of the shock towers? That front section of minx frame looks like it could be tied into the bottom of the new section, but I suppose it depends on the other suspension/steering parts that need to fit in there. Looks like a hack job now, but I'm sure you'll get it all tied together and looking like it was that way from the factory.

This build is cute an all, but I have to say, I miss the progress reports from the burb.

Frizzle Fry · 09-03-2009, 10:48 AM

The front is barely tied in just to hold position for now. There will be boxing top and bottom and yes tower bracing triangulated back to the firewall and a removable strut brace laterally.

Britain Smith · 09-03-2009, 12:34 PM

Nice man...I will try to make it over after I pick up the kids tonight to check out the progress in person.

Now get out there and cut the other side!

-Britain

Mister laugh · 09-03-2009, 11:59 PM

You missed a big spot in the middle.

On a more serious note i wish i had 1/10th of your metal skill........It looks great

Frizzle Fry · 09-04-2009, 06:44 PM

How did I miss that?

No wheelbarrow (I know where that idea came from) or BBQ lids here. But I'd use one if it met my needs.

Yesterday I put the engine in place again so I could mark the rack position and box the frame accordingly.

Since it's a bit of a PITA to get the engine/trans in/out I decided to knock some other things out while it was in there. I really wanted to see if my header would work with the added clearance gained with the straight frame rail: NOPE. Not without modification anyway.

I was able to remove 3/4-1" from the primaries right by the flange to suck it in closer to the block.

3/4" taken off (one rolled away):

The two center pipes are the real problem. I was able to get another 1/4"-"3/8" off them forcing them in with a hose clamp:

The 4th cylinder did not want to cooperate.

Be we have ways...

hgs_notes · 09-04-2009, 07:04 PM

Where there's a will, a hammer, some visegrips, a cutting wheel and a welder, there's a way. Man that's tight.

Frizzle Fry · 09-04-2009, 07:41 PM

It is tight. I will have to clearance the frame rail a bit.

Also had to make some room in the floor (view from inside on PS):

But otherwise it's like it was made for it!

jb1016 · 09-16-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

But otherwise it's like it was made for it!

This slayed me! Looking good FF.

Rokcrln · 09-18-2009, 11:41 AM

Looking good Mike! You had me thinking about doing a 4 banger power plant for an early scratch built roadster pick up I am designing but I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it that will fit the bill a bit better for this build but maybe next time in a little 34 roadster or something. Keep up the progress and get back to that Hoe sometime soon

Kevin
LFD Inc.

IvelDesigns · 09-18-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rokcrln

I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it

I'm no ford guy, but those 4.6's are some good cheap power. I've seen some builds where guys have pulled a butt load of HP out of them relatively cheap.

Frizzle Fry · 09-18-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln

Looking good Mike! You had me thinking about doing a 4 banger power plant for an early scratch built roadster pick up I am designing but I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it that will fit the bill a bit better for this build but maybe next time in a little 34 roadster or something. Keep up the progress and get back to that Hoe sometime soon

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Love 4cammers. The F20C is a good match for this car's intended use; daily street and occasional weekend ax/drift/silliness.

Still making progress on the DS. I've also been doing a lot of research for the selection/design of the steering. It's not a matter of simply selecting a rack with the right inner-to-inner tie rod length and putting it in the right position. The position of the engine in this car will not allow the correct placement of a "conventional" rack. So I'm designing the steering around a center steer rack similar to this:

The problem is that all the center steer units I can find are designed for rear steer. I may end up getting a RHD rear steer unit and using it for LHD front steer... We'll see.

woodwright · 09-21-2009, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

The problem is that all the center steer units I can find are designed for rear steer. I may end up getting a RHD rear steer unit and using it for LHD front steer... We'll see.

A center steer from a 94ish Dodge intrepid would be correct.
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They mount to the firewall, but the tie rods cross over the crossmember. This one's in my GMC, but I don't think I'm gonna use it. Let me know if you need any dimensions or anything.

dammitmitchell · 09-04-2009, 09:43 PM

still sexy and incredible (the car and welding ... dont get no ideas here)

hgs_notes · 09-05-2009, 12:18 AM

Remember that header wrap adds to the thickness. Considering how close everything is in there, I would say the wrap is mandatory.

Frizzle Fry · 09-05-2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell

still sexy and incredible (the car and welding ... dont get no ideas here)

thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by hgs_notes

Remember that header wrap adds to the thickness. Considering how close everything is in there, I would say the wrap is mandatory.

It will be ceramic coated and I'll make a heat shield. Not a big fan of header wrap but I'll use it if I have too.

tdave00 · 09-05-2009, 12:34 AM

Love watching the progress on this project. Good job man!

Jvsapp · 09-05-2009, 12:46 AM

damn that's tight. and you still have clearance between the firewall and the valve cover? your passenger is gonna have a hot foot

but awesome work FF. i was looking at the use of hose clamps thinking *thwanggggg* if it let go.

Britain Smith · 09-09-2009, 05:55 PM

Where are the updates? I know that you have some, I was there!

-Britain

Frizzle Fry · 09-09-2009, 06:52 PM

It's just a repeat of the PS on the DS for the most part. I'll post pics when it's boxed. I've done some more work on the header too. I can post those when it's done (soon).

joe231 · 09-18-2009, 06:56 PM

Rear steer?

As in the rack mounted to the rear of the front wheels, or steering on the rear wheels?

Frizzle Fry · 09-18-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231

Rear steer?

As in the rack mounted to the rear of the front wheels, or steering on the rear wheels?

Rear steer: Tie-rods/steering-arms aft of wheel center on the front wheels.

Frizzle Fry · 09-18-2009, 07:01 PM

RHD manual rack:

dammitmitchell · 09-18-2009, 07:36 PM

show off...
hehehhe
what about saab and subaru steering? they are narrow like that little car...
and saabs ar ea dime a dozen now in the junk yards..

FRENCHBLUE72 · 09-18-2009, 09:13 PM

Why not just make it right hand drive???? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

09-03-2009, 05:45 AM	#1
Jvsapp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on a rock in the pacific Posts: 554	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... looks good FF. did you have to mod the tower alot? BTW is that rustreformer ok to weld on? doesn't throw off any caustic fumes? nice work on the firewall. looks clean. nice coat of paint will make it all worth while. __________________ 63 4 door Chevy II - NOVACATION (Updated 08/23/09) 65 Morris minor Traveler 77 Chevy Longbed. 93 Corolla JDM 20V Swap Daily Driver (Updated 07/16/09) Powder coating Hawaii Domestic Violence Awareness Show 5/3/09 Hawaii Rod and Custom Show 4/18 Last edited by Jvsapp; 09-03-2009 at 05:46 AM.

09-03-2009, 09:18 AM	#2
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Are you going to have some sort of bracing from the top of the shock towers? That front section of minx frame looks like it could be tied into the bottom of the new section, but I suppose it depends on the other suspension/steering parts that need to fit in there. Looks like a hack job now, but I'm sure you'll get it all tied together and looking like it was that way from the factory. This build is cute an all, but I have to say, I miss the progress reports from the burb. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

09-03-2009, 10:48 AM	#3
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... The front is barely tied in just to hold position for now. There will be boxing top and bottom and yes tower bracing triangulated back to the firewall and a removable strut brace laterally.

09-03-2009, 12:34 PM	#4
Britain Smith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 35	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Nice man...I will try to make it over after I pick up the kids tonight to check out the progress in person. Now get out there and cut the other side! -Britain

09-03-2009, 11:59 PM	#5
Mister laugh Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 423	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... You missed a big spot in the middle. On a more serious note i wish i had 1/10th of your metal skill........It looks great

09-04-2009, 06:44 PM	#6
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... How did I miss that? No wheelbarrow (I know where that idea came from) or BBQ lids here. But I'd use one if it met my needs. Yesterday I put the engine in place again so I could mark the rack position and box the frame accordingly. Since it's a bit of a PITA to get the engine/trans in/out I decided to knock some other things out while it was in there. I really wanted to see if my header would work with the added clearance gained with the straight frame rail: NOPE. Not without modification anyway. I was able to remove 3/4-1" from the primaries right by the flange to suck it in closer to the block. 3/4" taken off (one rolled away): The two center pipes are the real problem. I was able to get another 1/4"-"3/8" off them forcing them in with a hose clamp: The 4th cylinder did not want to cooperate. Be we have ways...

09-04-2009, 07:04 PM	#7
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Where there's a will, a hammer, some visegrips, a cutting wheel and a welder, there's a way. Man that's tight. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

09-04-2009, 07:41 PM	#8
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... It is tight. I will have to clearance the frame rail a bit. Also had to make some room in the floor (view from inside on PS): But otherwise it's like it was made for it!

09-18-2009, 11:41 AM	#10
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Looking good Mike! You had me thinking about doing a 4 banger power plant for an early scratch built roadster pick up I am designing but I came across a 4 cam lincoln 4.6 mod with 50 K on it that will fit the bill a bit better for this build but maybe next time in a little 34 roadster or something. Keep up the progress and get back to that Hoe sometime soon Kevin LFD Inc. Last edited by Rokcrln; 09-18-2009 at 11:42 AM.

09-04-2009, 09:43 PM	#14
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... still sexy and incredible (the car and welding ... dont get no ideas here) __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042

09-05-2009, 12:18 AM	#15
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Remember that header wrap adds to the thickness. Considering how close everything is in there, I would say the wrap is mandatory. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

09-05-2009, 12:34 AM	#17
tdave00 Restoring a 68 SWB Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,068	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Love watching the progress on this project. Good job man! __________________ My Build Thread: Lucy - My 1968 SWB - Shop Truck Style North Nashville Concrete Contractor

09-05-2009, 12:46 AM	#18
Jvsapp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on a rock in the pacific Posts: 554	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... damn that's tight. and you still have clearance between the firewall and the valve cover? your passenger is gonna have a hot foot but awesome work FF. i was looking at the use of hose clamps thinking thwanggggg if it let go. __________________ 63 4 door Chevy II - NOVACATION (Updated 08/23/09) 65 Morris minor Traveler 77 Chevy Longbed. 93 Corolla JDM 20V Swap Daily Driver (Updated 07/16/09) Powder coating Hawaii Domestic Violence Awareness Show 5/3/09 Hawaii Rod and Custom Show 4/18

09-09-2009, 05:55 PM	#19
Britain Smith Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 35	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Where are the updates? I know that you have some, I was there! -Britain

09-09-2009, 06:52 PM	#20
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... It's just a repeat of the PS on the DS for the most part. I'll post pics when it's boxed. I've done some more work on the header too. I can post those when it's done (soon).



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09-18-2009, 06:56 PM	#21
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Rear steer? As in the rack mounted to the rear of the front wheels, or steering on the rear wheels? __________________ *CHEVY ONLY* Last edited by joe231; 09-18-2009 at 06:58 PM.

09-18-2009, 07:01 PM	#23
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... RHD manual rack:

09-18-2009, 07:36 PM	#24
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... show off... hehehhe what about saab and subaru steering? they are narrow like that little car... and saabs ar ea dime a dozen now in the junk yards.. __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042 Last edited by dammitmitchell; 09-18-2009 at 07:37 PM.

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