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VA72C10 · 09-30-2011, 05:29 PM

welded would look cleaner...you could plug weld the bolt holes then weld the edge and grind smooth...

PBFAB.COM · 09-30-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by creepdogg

Yeah, I will need to replace the Ball Joints, they are brand new but the wrong year for my new Spindles, go figure, I will likely sell em on the board.

The lowers are a pain to press out with that tapered ball joint cup.

creepdogg · 10-03-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

The lowers are a pain to press out with that tapered ball joint cup.

Any suggestions? I was thinking of maybe heating the control arm?

PBFAB.COM · 10-03-2011, 11:51 AM

I wouldn't heat the arms... might have to make a tapered block to use?

creepdogg · 10-03-2011, 12:23 PM

I think we may try an air hammer on it, will likely destroy the ball joint but oh well.

creepdogg · 10-03-2011, 05:13 PM

Does anyone know how to tear down these damn arms? I want to get them powder coated a different color but I cant seem to see how to get the shaft out of the arm? I am thinking it was likely pressed in originally?

chevytruckluver · 10-03-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by creepdogg

Does anyone know how to tear down these damn arms? I want to get them powder coated a different color but I cant seem to see how to get the shaft out of the arm? I am thinking it was likely pressed in originally?

Nope, the shafts are threaded on both ends. put the shaft in a big vise and unscrew the ends

PBFAB.COM · 10-03-2011, 06:14 PM

We disassembled a set about a year and a half ago to make delrin bushings for them so they would be compatible with the Dropmember... the bushings are in there pretty tight. They will eventually come out with a lot of effort and even more patience.

creepdogg · 10-03-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

We disassembled a set about a year and a half ago to make delrin bushings for them so they would be compatible with the Dropmember... the bushings are in there pretty tight. They will eventually come out with a lot of effort and even more patience.

Did u use a press to get them out? I called thorbros today and the guy said if i could get em apart I likely wouldn't get em back together. This is not want I wanted to hear. I don't want my arms black, although it may work.
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creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 09:32 AM

Looking at the break down photos of these arms it would seem that all I need to do is press them out one end, remove the bushing and repeat, maybe I should grease them up to get them to slide easier? I wonder if a little heat would help out as well?

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 09:34 AM

What was a good deal is now turning in to a PITA!

**67cheby** · 10-04-2011, 10:00 AM

i would try to cool them rather than heat them, stick them in the freezer for a couple of hours and try it ?? it wont cost anything to try maybe it will work maybe not?

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 67cheby

i would try to cool them rather than heat them, stick them in the freezer for a couple of hours and try it ?? it wont cost anything to try maybe it will work maybe not?

Hmm, that is a good idea, maybe it will make the poly a little more rigid and will stop it from gripping on the metal. I have a freezer here at work

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 10:46 AM

Or I just leave the damn things black, the cross member will be a charcoal, and so will the spindles, the arms could be black along with the frame. So it will kinda flow decent. Any thoughts?

I just don't want to destroy these arms to only for powder, plus I would save a few bucks not needing to powder them

**67cheby** · 10-04-2011, 10:50 AM

i think that would look fine !!

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 10:55 AM

Lookie what I found today!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-12...#ht_500wt_1182

Wonder what it will go for

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 10:57 AM

Anyone know enough about rear ends, would this work in my rear end, mine is a 70 12 bolt.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12-Bo...#ht_500wt_1182

Rochlow · 10-04-2011, 10:58 AM

Me too.. (leave them black) Sorry to hear that the arms are a PITA.. I didn't realize that they were so difficult to tear down.

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochlow

Me too.. (leave them black) Sorry to hear that the arms are a PITA.. I didn't realize that they were so difficult to tear down.

Not your fault man! I bet I can still get em apart, just don't want to make it a nightmare, besides once inner fenders are installed, who will really notice the arms anyways?

Rochlow · 10-04-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by creepdogg

Not your fault man! I bet I can still get em apart, just don't want to make it a nightmare, besides once inner fenders are installed, who will really notice the arms anyways?

and once they are apart.. How hard will they be to get back together..

PBFAB.COM · 10-04-2011, 11:05 AM

We didn't care about the bushings or the shafts in our case, as they weren't going to be re-used in our application. It was a bit of work. One of the bushings didn't survive.

And we ended up cutting the cross-shaft in pieces on the second arm to save time.

I would recommend to leave them as is, rather than risk damaging something that they aren't "currently" building anymore. Black will flow just fine with the chassis.

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

We didn't care about the bushings or the shafts in our case, as they weren't going to be re-used in our application. It was a bit of work. One of the bushings didn't survive.

And we ended up cutting the cross-shaft in pieces on the second arm to save time.

I would recommend to leave them as is, rather than risk damaging something that they aren't "currently" building anymore. Black will flow just fine with the chassis.

Yeah, I think it makes most sense, I will rock these until the next itch when I go for a drop member, at that point I will just get your arms, and with the correct wheel centering

Now to just get that damn lower ball joint out, but I bet that will be easier! Although still hard.

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by porterbuilt

We didn't care about the bushings or the shafts in our case, as they weren't going to be re-used in our application. It was a bit of work. One of the bushings didn't survive.

And we ended up cutting the cross-shaft in pieces on the second arm to save time.

I would recommend to leave them as is, rather than risk damaging something that they aren't "currently" building anymore. Black will flow just fine with the chassis.

What is everyone's favorite brand to use for ball-joints? I was thinking of using Moog.

creepdogg · 10-04-2011, 11:22 AM

Xmas from UPS today ! CPP Tubular motor mount perches.

gcburdic · 10-04-2011, 12:21 PM

TRW is made by Moog as well....check Rockauto.com for deals....there's a 5% discount code available...just google for it

09-30-2011, 05:29 PM	#251
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10-03-2011, 11:51 AM	#254
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Project: "Home Grown" I wouldn't heat the arms... might have to make a tapered block to use? __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

10-03-2011, 12:23 PM	#255
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" I think we may try an air hammer on it, will likely destroy the ball joint but oh well.

10-03-2011, 05:13 PM	#256
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Does anyone know how to tear down these damn arms? I want to get them powder coated a different color but I cant seem to see how to get the shaft out of the arm? I am thinking it was likely pressed in originally?

10-03-2011, 06:14 PM	#258
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Project: "Home Grown" We disassembled a set about a year and a half ago to make delrin bushings for them so they would be compatible with the Dropmember... the bushings are in there pretty tight. They will eventually come out with a lot of effort and even more patience. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

10-04-2011, 09:32 AM	#260
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Looking at the break down photos of these arms it would seem that all I need to do is press them out one end, remove the bushing and repeat, maybe I should grease them up to get them to slide easier? I wonder if a little heat would help out as well? Attached Images

10-04-2011, 09:34 AM	#261
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" What was a good deal is now turning in to a PITA!

10-04-2011, 10:00 AM	#262
67cheby 67cheby Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: siloam springs ar 72761 Posts: 17,890	Re: Project: "Home Grown" i would try to cool them rather than heat them, stick them in the freezer for a couple of hours and try it ?? it wont cost anything to try maybe it will work maybe not? __________________ Check out Slosh Tubz, bolt-in inner fenders for frame laying C-10's Slosh Tubz Introductory Price $559 67 Cheby's Dropmember Build Thread Slosh Tubz on Facebook http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554172

10-04-2011, 10:46 AM	#264
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Or I just leave the damn things black, the cross member will be a charcoal, and so will the spindles, the arms could be black along with the frame. So it will kinda flow decent. Any thoughts? I just don't want to destroy these arms to only for powder, plus I would save a few bucks not needing to powder them

10-04-2011, 10:50 AM	#265
67cheby 67cheby Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: siloam springs ar 72761 Posts: 17,890	Re: Project: "Home Grown" i think that would look fine !! __________________ Check out Slosh Tubz, bolt-in inner fenders for frame laying C-10's Slosh Tubz Introductory Price $559 67 Cheby's Dropmember Build Thread Slosh Tubz on Facebook http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=554172

10-04-2011, 10:55 AM	#266
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Lookie what I found today! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-12...#ht_500wt_1182 Wonder what it will go for

10-04-2011, 10:57 AM	#267
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Anyone know enough about rear ends, would this work in my rear end, mine is a 70 12 bolt. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12-Bo...#ht_500wt_1182

10-04-2011, 10:58 AM	#268
Rochlow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: St. Albans, Vt Posts: 2,520	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Me too.. (leave them black) Sorry to hear that the arms are a PITA.. I didn't realize that they were so difficult to tear down.

10-04-2011, 11:05 AM	#271
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Project: "Home Grown" We didn't care about the bushings or the shafts in our case, as they weren't going to be re-used in our application. It was a bit of work. One of the bushings didn't survive. And we ended up cutting the cross-shaft in pieces on the second arm to save time. I would recommend to leave them as is, rather than risk damaging something that they aren't "currently" building anymore. Black will flow just fine with the chassis. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

10-04-2011, 11:22 AM	#274
creepdogg Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ann Arbor Posts: 453	Re: Project: "Home Grown" Xmas from UPS today ! CPP Tubular motor mount perches. Attached Images



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