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Re: Restoring Rusty
I believe this is all original, the cam gear is very light I thought it was aluminum, but my buddy said its that nylon stuff, it's just really dirty that's all, maybe if I was to clean it up we could confirm for sure
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Greg, you've covered many pages since I checked in. Nice work! I really like the methodical approach, operating tables, organ bins and all. |
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the general consensus among my self proclaimed "car expert" buddies is that this truck may have indeed only had 35,000 miles on it and not 135K or even 235K since it was a straight up farm truck, either way it don't matter now
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Frustrating day today, the wife is out of town, so you think I would have time to work on the truck, but I gotta take one kid somewherez at 12:00 another at 2:30 then pick up the first at 4:00 and the next at 6:30, I kid you not
sometimes I think to myself, you know what all I wanna do is wrench on my truck, just be left alone, I say to myself, LOOK, I AIN'T BOTHERING NOBODY why can't I just be able to do this You ever feel like that? Last edited by Gregski; 03-05-2016 at 04:16 PM. |
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somehow I decided to press on
got the passenger side motor mount off, had to excavate the bolt heads to even be able to get the socket on them, they had that much farm crust on them |
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on to the other side, the driver motor mount
observation, the passenger side has the nut welded on to it, the driver side do not |
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spuned her upside down for a looksie
pics sorta blurry, apologies man I can't wait to get that fugly orange off of her |
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these are the numbers off the stock cam 2944 and GM12 and K80 (not sure about the last one)
I can't find any info for that type of cam anywheres except some dude claiming it was a performance cam on eBay that he sold of $18 bucks, LOL |
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Haven't kept up with the forum in a while but junk the stock cam for a slightly More modern version.
What's your plan for the motor? If you stay flat tappet, on a budget go with a summit tight lobe seperation cam, they are the older but more modern than your stock cam. JMO, Brent |
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Comp Cams 12-235-2 or 12-231-2.
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Your ability to cope without frustration will get better as you get older and the challenges get harder.
When you get a call at 2am to bail them out of jail, when they move home for a few months in their 20's or 30's, when they go through a divorce and your Grandchild is in the middle, or anytime they do something unwise that you end up fixing - you'll remember fondly the days when running a taxi service was the only requirement. ![]()
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But, my kids and wife know that I will ALWAYS be there to support them (note: not DO for them, support them as THEY do). As I watch them fly, it was worth 20 years of fitting my hobby in the little spots between. Frustrating, yes, I've been working on a simple tractor redo for almost 20 years, as other things rise up above it in priority. But prioritizing family before all else was part of saying 'I Do' and all that has followed. Trucks will always be important but "all true wealth is biological".
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I know doing a job like this is a massive undertaking so today since I couldn't work on the truck I made a list of most of the things need doing, before I even start the re assembly process, I share this with you for two reasons, 1. to acknowledge just how much stuff goes into this type of job, and 2. to keep me honest and ensure I get it done
0. make this list 1. clean engine block 2. clean new used vortec cylinder heads (pics coming soon) 3. clean new used vortec intake manifold (pics coming soon) 4. clean K member 5. clean new used radiator support 6. clean motor mounts 7. clean water pump pulley 8. clean crank pulley 9. clean harmonic ballancer 10. clean new used vortec valve covers (pics coming soon) 11. clean timing cover 12. clean oil pan (again) 13. clean new used trans cover (pics coming soon) 14. clean new used trans cross member (pics coming soon) 15. clean new used overdrive transmission (pics coming soon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 16. paint engine block 17. paint new used cylinder heads 18. paint timing cover 19. paint new mid mount alternator bracket (pics coming soon) 20. paint water pump pulley 21. paint crank pulley 22. paint fan 23. paint harmonic ballancer 24. paint motor mounts 25. paint K member 26. paint new used trans cross member 27. paint new used trans cover 28. paint new used radiator support 29. paint lower grille panel 30. paint chrome trim on grille black man I wish this forum had strike through text so that as I complete these tasks I could cross them out, know what I mean |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Budget Top End Build
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now i see why you called it "rusty". cool build and i like your humor. it goes a LONG way now a days.
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Greg , the engine looks to be fairly dirty inside , not sure it could just have 35 thou - unless it only had 3 oil changes. May want to replace crank seals too and are you going to replace the oil pump ? They're cheap ! (with all that oil - you'd think they wouldn't wear - huh .. ?)
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The oil pump and pickup screen is brand new, I replaced it a few months ago when I did the rear main seal and the oil pan gasket. |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Cheat Sheet
Man I can't find squat on my own thread, lol time to create a Cheat Sheet
THREAD - TASK 16 - Carb Rebuild 334 - Intake Manifold 1110 - Tailgate 1190 - Hood 1447 - Power Steering 1561 - Radio 1745 - Gauge Cluster 1871 - Bed Last edited by Gregski; 03-07-2016 at 03:02 PM. |
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