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**jaros44sr** · 04-16-2018, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zicc1835

Thanks Jim May take the easy way out this go around use what’s there ..will see I won’t need an excuse to to take an ride out for a visit when weather finally turns

Always welcome Jess, might be some other parts around here you can use,MSC 6A1, FAST Dual Sync distributor

**jaros44sr** · 04-18-2018, 10:51 AM

[url=https://flic.kr/p/26e9jkb]20180418_104435

[url=https://flic.kr/p/Ja8hRQ]20180418_104540

sides look alittle bulky, will have to machine some slots or trapazoids

**zicc1835** · 04-18-2018, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Always welcome Jess, might be some other parts around here you can use,MSC 6A1, FAST Dual Sync distributor

ill give you a warning

beforei head out hoping for a nice sunny day......

**jaros44sr** · 04-18-2018, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zicc1835

ill give you a warning

beforei head out hoping for a nice sunny day......

Do you need my cell number?

**zicc1835** · 04-18-2018, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Do you need my cell number?

Thanks Jim.....just looked thru my contacts thought i may have had it from my visit please PM to me ill lock it in and PM mine back....

**jaros44sr** · 04-23-2018, 01:30 PM

Started to work on my harness, found out there is a late and early version of harness, so my TPS and IAC connecters are wrong, plus location with in connecters. Wiring diagram shows this.

While I was working on the harness, found out I was putting the seal on wrong, so, I cut the tabs shorter, maybe a 1/16" or 1/8" and wrapped the tabs around the wire, then slid the seal on, much easier then trying to crimp the seal, as I would cut the seal. Having the right crimper also made the job easier. I like to pre-crimp with a larger size and then do a final crimp. I may go back and solder.

Also, having the right pin tools, is a must, can't remove without releasing lock on the pins

[url=https://flic.kr/p/26oYwbW]20180423_120857

sorry no pics of late style connecter, as I destroyed it on removal

**jaros44sr** · 04-23-2018, 01:32 PM

[url=https://flic.kr/p/256HNBz]20180423_121452

[url=https://flic.kr/p/23GQLvN]20180423_125720

[url=https://flic.kr/p/Jk3sgb]20180423_125807

The larger crimp puts a hex crimp but the narrower crimp tool fits better on the pin, and does a factory style crimp

**jaros44sr** · 04-24-2018, 10:32 AM

These are the pins and tool that I'm working with. Since all the wires pulled out of the pins, I will solder them

[url=https://flic.kr/p/GQxatM]20180424_102116

**jaros44sr** · 04-25-2018, 10:47 AM

Did some soldering of my pins, s/b a better connection, just don't go crazy with solder, I use a very small diameter! Just on the crimp

[url=https://flic.kr/p/25a5mXt]20180425_103313[

While I was researching Jess's Sniper EFI, I found a clamp on O2 senser mount, hope it works as I suck a welding

TPS is locked and finished

[url=https://flic.kr/p/25a7kYk]20180425_105519

**jaros44sr** · 04-25-2018, 01:13 PM

TPS and IAC are done now onto MAP

[url=https://flic.kr/p/Jph5hQ]20180425_131006

**jaros44sr** · 04-26-2018, 10:34 AM

Last conversion from late model to early connecter- MAP

[url=https://flic.kr/p/GUyec2]20180426_094705

lleff · 05-03-2018, 02:07 PM

managed to read through most of your build thread, you do some fantastic work, on a side note im in the industrial maintenance profession my self, im still green compared to you tho with only about 8 years of experience. looking forward to more updates great work so far

franken · 05-03-2018, 11:05 PM

The tool to compress the tangs on the terminal is a pin pusher.
Your crimpers look to be incorrect, sadly there are many kinds.
If the wires pull out of the terminal after crimping, the crimper is not the right one, or the crimp was incorrect. Sorry...
Ref the pic in post #2933. The crimp of the big end (closest in the pic) is in the insulation to help hold the terminal; the next one is in the bare wire and provides the electrical connection. The crimper should roll the tangs of the terminal in a bit, not just fold them over. If the crimper has U shaped patterns and not rounded W patterns, it aint right. Also, with a less expensive crimper you may need to crimp a few times on the different spots.
The next bits sticking up slightly are what hold the terminal in the connector and what the pin pusher releases to allow the terminal to be removed.

It might be too late, so if you soldered, make sure to try and minimize vibration, wobbling, movement, whatever at the connection. A soldered joint is brittle and more prone to failure when stressed. A soldered joint also depends on a good mechanical connection; solder is an alloy of lead and tin, neither of which are strong.

Sorry if that was TMI.

**jaros44sr** · 05-04-2018, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lleff

managed to read through most of your build thread, you do some fantastic work, on a side note im in the industrial maintenance profession my self, im still green compared to you tho with only about 8 years of experience. looking forward to more updates great work so far

Thanks for reading, has been a long road, but fun! Started out as a tool and die operater, after Vo-tech, but was bored standing in one spot all day

My career in industrial man. was rewarding and I enjoyed going to work every day. Ya just never knew what fire you would have to put out, on any given day, and that was the interesting part, never boring. Something broke all the time in the factories I've worked at.....

Pay was great, and overtime was always there. Papermills were the most fun as everything was HUGE. Pharmicueticals not so much as everything had SOP's
Gotta get my spell check working again!

**jaros44sr** · 05-04-2018, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franken

The tool to compress the tangs on the terminal is a pin pusher.
Your crimpers look to be incorrect, sadly there are many kinds.
If the wires pull out of the terminal after crimping, the crimper is not the right one, or the crimp was incorrect. Sorry...
Ref the pic in post #2933. The crimp of the big end (closest in the pic) is in the insulation to help hold the terminal; the next one is in the bare wire and provides the electrical connection. The crimper should roll the tangs of the terminal in a bit, not just fold them over. If the crimper has U shaped patterns and not rounded W patterns, it aint right. Also, with a less expensive crimper you may need to crimp a few times on the different spots.
The next bits sticking up slightly are what hold the terminal in the connector and what the pin pusher releases to allow the terminal to be removed.

It might be too late, so if you soldered, make sure to try and minimize vibration, wobbling, movement, whatever at the connection. A soldered joint is brittle and more prone to failure when stressed. A soldered joint also depends on a good mechanical connection; solder is an alloy of lead and tin, neither of which are strong.

Sorry if that was TMI.

Thanks for posting up, I agree with all of what you said, except the wire that pulled out was a factory crimp from FAST. I always pull on my crimps to check if they are strong. Just recently, started using solder,and agree on making the connection brittle

Using the right crimper is also key, as you state , a "W" shape is the one to use of the correct size

Information is key, to a buildthread, and I hope it helps young builders in the future, past when I have long gone

**jaros44sr** · 05-04-2018, 10:01 AM

Newest adventure, step up resister to crank trigger- 5v-12v across signal and power wire

[url=https://flic.kr/p/26KxEf5]20180504_095233

**jaros44sr** · 05-10-2018, 10:42 AM

Ref: post 2896. repin connecters and terminals for FAST to EFI Connections. Connectors from FAST would not fit sensors from EFI, plus terminal locations are in a differant oreintation, with information provided by EFI and the schmatic from FAST, I was able to repin the connectors to plug in to the sensors on the cam and crank with out the jumpers from EFI Connection, SOOOO, wires go in and out the same colors

Terminal release tool goes in the little rectanguler slot at the top of the connecter. First remove white lock on connector, then you are able to remove wires and metal terminals. Don't forget to rebend locking tab up

Photos to follow, flickr not working, or operater error

**jaros44sr** · 05-10-2018, 11:38 AM

[url=https://flic.kr/p/HmZ71T]20180510_101426

[url=https://flic.kr/p/HmZbNi]20180510_101519

this is the portion of the schmetic I'm working on

[url=https://flic.kr/p/25DujVB]20180510_103855

low'n slow · 05-11-2018, 07:24 PM

You make it look so easy Jim.

**jaros44sr** · 05-12-2018, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by low'n slow

You make it look so easy Jim.

Thanks Doug, but the hard part for me will be having my computer talk to the system, I have no idea how to do that! Lucky for me I've had people to talk to, Jim at TPIS and the techies at FAST, and Chris at EFI Connections, they answered all my dumb questions

Hav'nt seen anyone else on these boards using FAST, so I'm on my own, just me and my computer

**jaros44sr** · 05-24-2018, 12:28 PM

Just picked this up from E-bay for 25.00 or 30.00. Thanks to the heads up from long standing member John H. Great forum when guys look out for one another

[url=https://flic.kr/p/27u8n1e]20180524_121406

This thing looks brand new, date on box says 1995, so I hope it's not for a newer truck, guess I'll have to wait and see

John H. · 05-25-2018, 12:23 PM

Jim,

Great buy! Here are some older gauges and boxes with same part numbers on the box and the gauge.

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**jaros44sr** · 05-29-2018, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John H.

Jim,

Great buy! Here are some older gauges and boxes with same part numbers on the box and the gauge.

Attachment 1787369

Thanks John for all the help, glad the numbers match. I thought the price was reasonable also

**jaros44sr** · 06-07-2018, 10:32 AM

It's alive and well, buddy came over to help figure out 2 phase

[url=https://flic.kr/p/26QMHWN]20180606_114651

**jaros44sr** · 07-17-2018, 09:08 AM

[url=https://flic.kr/p/299Mhsf]20180717_085848[

ANyone know size of these four bolts??????????????

Putting A/C in a non A/c truck, bezel to nice not to use

04-18-2018, 10:51 AM	#2927
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd [url=https://flic.kr/p/26e9jkb]20180418_104435 [url=https://flic.kr/p/Ja8hRQ]20180418_104540 sides look alittle bulky, will have to machine some slots or trapazoids __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

04-23-2018, 01:30 PM	#2931
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Started to work on my harness, found out there is a late and early version of harness, so my TPS and IAC connecters are wrong, plus location with in connecters. Wiring diagram shows this. While I was working on the harness, found out I was putting the seal on wrong, so, I cut the tabs shorter, maybe a 1/16" or 1/8" and wrapped the tabs around the wire, then slid the seal on, much easier then trying to crimp the seal, as I would cut the seal. Having the right crimper also made the job easier. I like to pre-crimp with a larger size and then do a final crimp. I may go back and solder. Also, having the right pin tools, is a must, can't remove without releasing lock on the pins [url=https://flic.kr/p/26oYwbW]20180423_120857 sorry no pics of late style connecter, as I destroyed it on removal __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 04-23-2018 at 01:37 PM.

04-23-2018, 01:32 PM	#2932
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd [url=https://flic.kr/p/256HNBz]20180423_121452 [url=https://flic.kr/p/23GQLvN]20180423_125720 [url=https://flic.kr/p/Jk3sgb]20180423_125807 The larger crimp puts a hex crimp but the narrower crimp tool fits better on the pin, and does a factory style crimp __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 04-23-2018 at 01:42 PM.

04-24-2018, 10:32 AM	#2933
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd These are the pins and tool that I'm working with. Since all the wires pulled out of the pins, I will solder them [url=https://flic.kr/p/GQxatM]20180424_102116 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

04-25-2018, 10:47 AM	#2934
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Did some soldering of my pins, s/b a better connection, just don't go crazy with solder, I use a very small diameter! Just on the crimp [url=https://flic.kr/p/25a5mXt]20180425_103313[ While I was researching Jess's Sniper EFI, I found a clamp on O2 senser mount, hope it works as I suck a welding TPS is locked and finished [url=https://flic.kr/p/25a7kYk]20180425_105519 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 04-25-2018 at 10:58 AM.

04-25-2018, 01:13 PM	#2935
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd TPS and IAC are done now onto MAP [url=https://flic.kr/p/Jph5hQ]20180425_131006 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

04-26-2018, 10:34 AM	#2936
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Last conversion from late model to early connecter- MAP [url=https://flic.kr/p/GUyec2]20180426_094705 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

05-03-2018, 02:07 PM	#2937
lleff Registered User Join Date: May 2018 Location: Newton IL Posts: 31	Re: PO has me PO'd managed to read through most of your build thread, you do some fantastic work, on a side note im in the industrial maintenance profession my self, im still green compared to you tho with only about 8 years of experience. looking forward to more updates great work so far

05-03-2018, 11:05 PM	#2938
franken Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Somewhere Posts: 3,122	Re: PO has me PO'd The tool to compress the tangs on the terminal is a pin pusher. Your crimpers look to be incorrect, sadly there are many kinds. If the wires pull out of the terminal after crimping, the crimper is not the right one, or the crimp was incorrect. Sorry... Ref the pic in post #2933. The crimp of the big end (closest in the pic) is in the insulation to help hold the terminal; the next one is in the bare wire and provides the electrical connection. The crimper should roll the tangs of the terminal in a bit, not just fold them over. If the crimper has U shaped patterns and not rounded W patterns, it aint right. Also, with a less expensive crimper you may need to crimp a few times on the different spots. The next bits sticking up slightly are what hold the terminal in the connector and what the pin pusher releases to allow the terminal to be removed. It might be too late, so if you soldered, make sure to try and minimize vibration, wobbling, movement, whatever at the connection. A soldered joint is brittle and more prone to failure when stressed. A soldered joint also depends on a good mechanical connection; solder is an alloy of lead and tin, neither of which are strong. Sorry if that was TMI. Last edited by franken; 05-03-2018 at 11:16 PM.

05-04-2018, 10:01 AM	#2941
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Newest adventure, step up resister to crank trigger- 5v-12v across signal and power wire [url=https://flic.kr/p/26KxEf5]20180504_095233 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 05-04-2018 at 10:13 AM.

05-10-2018, 10:42 AM	#2942
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Ref: post 2896. repin connecters and terminals for FAST to EFI Connections. Connectors from FAST would not fit sensors from EFI, plus terminal locations are in a differant oreintation, with information provided by EFI and the schmatic from FAST, I was able to repin the connectors to plug in to the sensors on the cam and crank with out the jumpers from EFI Connection, SOOOO, wires go in and out the same colors Terminal release tool goes in the little rectanguler slot at the top of the connecter. First remove white lock on connector, then you are able to remove wires and metal terminals. Don't forget to rebend locking tab up Photos to follow, flickr not working, or operater error __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim Last edited by jaros44sr; 05-10-2018 at 10:55 AM.

05-10-2018, 11:38 AM	#2943
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd [url=https://flic.kr/p/HmZ71T]20180510_101426 [url=https://flic.kr/p/HmZbNi]20180510_101519 this is the portion of the schmetic I'm working on [url=https://flic.kr/p/25DujVB]20180510_103855 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

05-11-2018, 07:24 PM	#2944
low'n slow Too Dumb To Know Better Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 882	Re: PO has me PO'd You make it look so easy Jim.

05-24-2018, 12:28 PM	#2946
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd Just picked this up from E-bay for 25.00 or 30.00. Thanks to the heads up from long standing member John H. Great forum when guys look out for one another [url=https://flic.kr/p/27u8n1e]20180524_121406 This thing looks brand new, date on box says 1995, so I hope it's not for a newer truck, guess I'll have to wait and see __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

05-25-2018, 12:23 PM	#2947
John H. Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sammamish, WA Posts: 2,115	Re: PO has me PO'd Jim, Great buy! Here are some older gauges and boxes with same part numbers on the box and the gauge.



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06-07-2018, 10:32 AM	#2949
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd It's alive and well, buddy came over to help figure out 2 phase [url=https://flic.kr/p/26QMHWN]20180606_114651 __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

07-17-2018, 09:08 AM	#2950
jaros44sr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa. 19454 Posts: 9,759	Re: PO has me PO'd [url=https://flic.kr/p/299Mhsf]20180717_085848[ ANyone know size of these four bolts?????????????? Putting A/C in a non A/c truck, bezel to nice not to use __________________ Semper Fi...Uncle Sam, you da man All parts offered to help are free, unless otherwise noted Dont try this stuff in my build thread, unless you have 55 years of mechanical OTJ training SAFETY FIRST AS usual, off topic They say your mind goes second, can't remember the first Jim

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