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Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
Unless you are dead set on carbeurating(sp) the 5.3, Mast Motorsports make an awesome intake with throttle body and fuel rails. The first time I saw the set up, with hidden coils, I would have sworn it was a SBC. It had a very lumpy cam with an old school cam sound, yet it retained the great mileage and made incredible HP.
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Just caught up on the progress. I'm lovin the build. Its kinda sad that the six isn't gonna work out, I love the look of those engines. Keep up the stellar work sir!
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Well, it's bad when you have to dig to find your own build thread! I haven't got any "real" progress done due to the change of plans with the engine situation, and getting the details of that sorted out. I've been posting on LS1tech to get an idea of what I'll need for the engine build, and it looks like it'll be limited to around 7500 rpm unless I almost double the engine budget. I've settled in on using an L33 5.3, destroked with a 4.8 crank, and opened up to LS1 size 3.90" bore. The short stroke will slow the piston speed down so stock rods with ARP bolts will be adequate, and the LS1 bore will open up more piston options while unshrouding the valves. That ends up at 312 CI, so mildly ported stock 799 head castings will flow plenty to make good power on the top end. Other than planning the engine build, I've also decided to sell the gauge cluster (minus the air gauge). I've found a guy that can build a stock looking 10k rpm tach that'll work with an LS engine, and also print a 140 mph speedo overlay for the gauge lens. I'll wetsand and buff off the stock 100 mph printing and use his reverse printed 140 mph decal on the inside of the lens. I should be able to sell the gauge cluster to cover the cost of the tach and speedo graphics. I've already got a gauge cluster I can restore and add the tach and air gauge to. I've got about 3-4k worth of parts that I need to sell so I should soon have alot more cash free to dump on the truck and get the progress rolling along better. I've got my eye on a No Limit rack and pinion kit, and it'll need to go in before the engine so that will probably be one of the next big purchases. Posted via Mobile Device
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I was looking at the No Limit R&P kit but I gave up on that idea. The No Limit kit requires you to drill a 7/8" hole in the frame for the steering shaft and 2 smaller holes for a centering bracket, so that requires you to get really creative with driver side motor mounts for LS motors. I found that Unisteer makes one that may work better but it's more expensive. I'll be very curious to see how you deal with this.
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Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
Well.... you have a game plan and thats what counts. I have the "5 year plan" on mine with various stages along the way.
and Post some pics of that restored gauge cluster!
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I thought I had a plan together when I first bought the truck... ![]() Here's the gauge cluster. It's for sale in the for sale section with a full description of what I've done to it. $550 shipped. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=527764 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Here's what the tach will look like. Subtle, eh?
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Sweet!!
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Interesting concept you have on the engine. I like different views and you definitely have one
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El Campo, you're thinking straight on the crank. Destroking it would typically kill bottom end torque, but I'm thinking that the intake with 8 separate runners will keep reversion from influencing/diluting the intake charge like it does with a plenum manifold, so that will definitly help with low speed engine smoothness and torque production. I'll bump the compression up too to help with low end torque. The LSx guys are running around 30 degrees more duration when they swap to an IR intake with no loss of bottem end driveability and way better throttle response. The other reason for the 4.8 crank is that it's stronger and slows the piston speed down so the rods and pistons aren't as stressed at high rpms. That along with porting the heads will move the powerband up a good bit- I hate it when an engine won't pull hard on the top end. It'll also be geared short (4.56) to take advantage of the higher powerband.
The current engine in my '64 VW is a torque monster (peak tq at around 2400 rpm) but it gives up around 5200 rpm, and that's no fun with 4.37 gears. So I'd be fine with giving up a little torque to have it pull harder up top. If I need more torque I can always downshift. My dad likes to get his truck in 5th/overdrive asap and thinks he's killing an engine if it gets above 3000 rpm; I'm just the opposite. If it doesn't work as planned I can fairly easily pull it and swap the 5.3 crank/rods back in.
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That makes sense.
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Here's how I like 'em. BMW M3, 4.0 V8 with IR intake, and revs to something like 8500-9000 rpm! Fairly quiet exhaust so you mostly hear the intake noise. Around 2:30 there's vid of it driving on the street. That thing sounds amazing! This is what I'm after with the destroked 5.3 build.
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Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
cool video , the LS will be assume with a IR intake on it.
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Subscribed! Don't know how I missed this build before. Glad you posted it on pt.
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perfect, that makes me feel much better. what about the two rivets protruding at the bottom?
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Update on the engine plans, and a change to the planned 140 mph speedo. I'm not going to use a L33 5.3 block- they can't be bored much at all. Leaving the stock bore would make it around 290 CI, so it probably wouldn't make enough torque to pull the truck around. I've decided to go with a 4" bore LS2 block (still with a 4.8 crank) to make 329 CI. I'll probably go with LS3 heads since they flow plenty and have hollow intake valves that will work well with the 8500 RPM limit.
I worked on the Speedo graphics today to send Jason at Greenback Decal (the guy that's building the tach and speedo graphics). I changed it to 15 mph increments from the original 10 mph increments so I could keep the same spacing and amount of characters. So it goes to 150 mph instead of the 140 mph I was planning on, and keeps the original hash marks on the speedo face. The problem I had with 140 mph was trying to squeeze the extra 110, 120, 130, and 140 characters onto the lens while keeping the original 10 mph increments- it would be too crowded that way. It kinda looks too busy with the 15 mph increments, but I haven't come up with any other way to do it. Thoughts and suggestions? Leave it at 150mph with 15mph increments? Or? Anybody want to donate a LS2 block? ![]() ![]() An original 100 mph speedo with 10mph increments. I really like the way every number ends in a zero. ![]()
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you could do like alot of modern speedos and just do every other 10 miles an hour-20-40-60. would be less crouded
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Do you have a pic of the 140 for us to compare.
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I don't really like the 5's on the 150 scale. OMG, how fast do you plan to drive that thing?????
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I didn't make a 140 mph edit, I thought it would get too crowded if I tried to cram in the extra 110, 120, 130, and 140. Quote:
I did some searching this morning for a factory KPH speedo and hit the jackpot. They go to 160 KPH in increments of 20 without being crowded, and all the numbers end in a zero. Unfortunately these were the only two pics I could find in the '64-66 style. Sure would be nice to find a NOS deluxe KPH lens!
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