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Found an ultra rare JC Whitney 55 Buick chrome bullnose grille emblem and mounted it up to see how it looked.
Overall it looks pretty decent, but I won’t be using it. The GMC emblem looks much more truck like and fits the area nicer. After that I spent 4 hours in the garage fitting the 59 GMC horn button, fabricating brackets, prepping for paint, etc. The GMC horn button/center emblem turned out to be chrome plated rather than stainless steel, so after scuffing with a Scotchbrite pad it was shot with UPOL Acid #8 etch primer followed by 3 coats of Rustoleum gloss white enamel. It’s finished. The grille bar was shot with etch primer and coated with UPOL high fill 2K primer. Tomorrow it will be block sanded and painted. No pictures yet. If all goes well the whole thing will be completed and installed this weekend. And by the way, the ultra rare chrome center shown above – is nothing more than a spare chrome dome oil fill cap!
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After the morning bike ride the next two hours were consumed block sanding the brushed on 2K primer. Brushing it on is sure easy on clean up, but it’s fairly miserable for block sanding. Sprayed on primer would have taken very little effort to block out by comparison.
Once sanded smooth it was wiped down twice with wax and grease remover. Then I started thinking about a way to hang the darn thing so I could apply the paint. A simple solution presented itself when I remembered keeping a heavy cast iron base weight out of an architects’ lamp. It weighs at least twice as much as the grille piece. A mount was created using a length of all thread and a few nuts and washers. The grille bar has a heavy steel strap where the original tin emblem backer bolted on. It was rested on the all thread and clamped tight with a second nut. Since the cast iron was dirty, it was covered with aluminum foil, along with the turn table underneath. Here’s how it looked after about 6 heavy flow coats sprayed on directly under the heat lamps in an 84 degree garage: A tiny dust spec settled in the first mist coat, which I picked out with tweezers. Amazingly no additional debris landed in the paint. The picture doesn’t do it justice, it really came out nice and shiny smooth. Here’s the emblem retaining strap holding the bar up. The color looks off because I forgot to turn off the heat lamps before taking the picture: The center emblem was finished yesterday: Originally I was going to paint the background black and leave the letters white. Then I thought about painting the letters (only) black. For now I’m going to leave the whole thing white. I’m thinking leaving it white will minimize the emblem and give it more of a factory appearance. I guess the proof will be in how it looks after installation. And here’s the back of the emblem/former horn button. The sides were trimmed down so the mounting tabs would be lower than the factory threaded bosses in the grille bar. 90 degree brackets where pop riveted to the sides and mounting bolts attached. Six pieces of .080 plastic styrene were Krazy glued to the perimeter. This forces the cap to be centered in the grille opening. The holes in the grille strap were drilled to fit the bolts in the cap, so pushing it into place both centers the cap and aligns the letters dead level. There’s so much paint on the bar, it’s going to take until tomorrow to cure sufficiently to allow handling. The only thing left to do is assemble the parts and stick it on the truck, after which I’ll correct the up and down fit of the fog lights. I’m getting anxious to see how it looks when completed.
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i dig that grill bar!! that looks sweet
it looks like it was made for that truck
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07-28-2012, 08:15 PM | #4 |
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background black, letters white, sides of the cap white...
thats my 2 pennies
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ya im with him on that ^
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07-29-2012, 02:50 AM | #6 |
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Some quick work with paint program, but you get the idea. If this were mine to do...
It would be hard to do, but you strike me as a detail minded sort of fellow anyways First one I did was without the outer most edge done. I almost liked that better.
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I think it will look better all white, but some photoshop renditions after you get it mounted will help you decide. No matter which way you go, this is going to look killer.
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07-29-2012, 06:26 PM | #8 |
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I’ve been torn about the paint options all along, and after seeing the McMurphy rendition I spent a big chunk of the morning attempting some detail painting. I tried a variety of brushes with some One Shot striping paint along the sharp edges of the original GMC letters. None of the results were acceptable to my standards. If the emblem ever gets detailing, it will be done by a professional striper.
Once I abandoned the detailing, assembly and installation commenced. The fog lights were pulled for clearance, the grille bar attached to the letter rack, and the hub bolted in place. It bolted right up to the truck and at first glance looked pretty nice. Here’s a shot of the first install. The lighting in this poor quality photo just makes the truck look like an Oldsmobile to me: Continuing study revealed the emblem appeared too high, although the positioning of the blades looked correct: I don't have a profile photo for clarification, but eventually it came to me the emblem appeared to be pointed uphill. The support brackets are bolted squarely to the radiator support but it didn’t look right because the main grille itself has a somewhat downward tilt. So everything was torn apart again and the support brackets that bolt to the triangle mounting plates were angled and repositioned. Here’s the finished result: To my untrained eye it looks perfect. The gap over the license plate is the same as the gap over the center hub when viewed from the front, and the corrected angle makes it seem more finished and natural than the GMC letters: And finally here’s an overall shot of the truck. This was a terrible time to be taking truck photos. Harsh sunlight and spotty shade, but I wanted to see how it looked through the lens. I’m very happy with the change. And the more I study the photos the more I like the white emblem. It looks like an ornament, but has no significant details which might detract from the overall balanced lines. I still think it looks like something Olds should have produced: I'll get some better photos over the next couple of weeks after all the dust is washed off the truck.
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I would have painted the whole thing black, and painted on the bigger less detailed white areas, just because you know I am lazy like that !!! Looks good Mark!! We land in Spokane this Thursday, wife and I are certainly looking forward to meeting you and seeing this beautiful work of yours first hand!!!
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07-31-2012, 12:12 AM | #10 |
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such a nice truck!
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07-31-2012, 12:24 AM | #11 |
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Looks great Mark
Very nice detail oriented job as always.
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looks awesome Mark! really looks like it belongs there...i still think it might look even better with black detailing, either the GMC letters or the background behind them...maybe you'll come across a professional striper to hook you up...until then, it looks great as-is...nice work, as always
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63 Olds short stepper! Looks great Mark, nice workmanship as always
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Well I was out admiring my handiwork this morning and realized I must have applied too much paint to the Buick grille bar as it developed a couple of wrinkles. Of course they had to be right in front next to the hub so they really showed up. I pulled it back off for refinishing. As long as I had it out I thought I’d see how it looked with the chrome center instead of the GMC horn cap. I’m torn because I like the GMC emblem, but not sure I’m all that crazy about how long it makes the center hub look. The chrome “emblem” makes the hub look shorter, adds a bit of sparkle, and a 3 dimensional aspect. Here are a few photos with both the GMC and the chrome center. Opinions are welcome:
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Diggin the bit of chrome personally
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I also like the chrome center. As you said it doesn't make the bar look so big. Also it gives it a just a little retro look like 50 Ford or 50 Studebaker Starlite front end. I like it.
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The repaint on the Buick grille has so far turned out to be a total disaster.
1st – I applied too much rattle can Rustoleum enamel and a week later the surface wrinkled in 3 places, two of which were right on top in the center and easily seen. 2nd – I attempted to sand off the paint and found it still soft and gooey inside. So I gave up sanding and started in with a razor blade, scraping 95% of it off. Amazingly the UPol 2K primer stuck like it was part of the metal. 3rd – My son volunteered to media blast the residue, and also offered to have it powder coated white to save me some time. I jumped at the offer figuring even if it was the wrong color it would make a nice base/primer coat. 4th – Got the grille back last night only to find something was incompatible between what was left of the original chrome and the powder paint, leaving every square inch of the entire surface covered in big nasty blisters. 5th - No problem, I figured I’d just hit it with the D/A and put some 2K primer over the top to smooth it all out. It took a couple of hours just to smooth out all the powder paint, after which some UPol 2K was mixed up and applied. After an hour in the 95 degree heat it was ready for blocking. It took at least another hour to block sand every square inch. Outstanding now it was ready for paint. 6th – The last step being a good wash with wax and grease remover, I noticed a couple of tiny specs sticking up in the finish. So I wiped them again and found they were actually small pieces of powder paint peeling off the metal! Then I found 3 more defects. ARRRRGGGHHHH! I attempted to feather the edges for more 2K primer, only to find it wouldn’t feather, it just kept peeling back and leaving a hard edge. 7th – Accepting that I was now screwed, I started in with the scraper again and stripped all the paint off that I could, then went to the wire wheel and stripper discs to return the thing to bare metal. My son is going to bead blast it again, after which I’ll do it right starting with epoxy primer. After that I’m covering the entire surface in Rage body filler, followed by 2K before finally applying the paint with block sanding in between. Amazing how a little nothing project can end up consuming as much labor as painting the whole car, and it will never show how much work went into it.
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Well Mark...
She'll turn out good when you are done I know. I kinda like the chrome center as mentioned below as well. Kinda blends in with the headlights. Hey, I got something for ya
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I'm really thankful you post these videos. I'd never see any of them otherwise, and there are so many cool cars and trucks in there. The Willys and 62 Chevy certainly looked a bit scary! I particularly like their starters!
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I love to see the old Pre-70 Traditional Hot Rods, Rad Rods, Altered Customs, Gassers, and Front Engine Dragsters. Nostalgia. Here some more videos: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=506806 Also: http://www.gasserwarsmagazine.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/GasserWarsMagazine/videos By the way I have met "Big Daddy" Don Garlits in person when he came to Darlington Dragway once when he was doing a exhibition run. Pretty gold Ole' Boy. No camera. No autograph. I'm an idiot.
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I’ve always been a TV Tommy fan. The clip above showing the 4 engine car running is actually from the 1964 movie Bikini Beach. In the film the audio and video is clear and impressive. Once that sucker is up to speed the gears in the front axle scream as loud as the engines. He’s also in The Ghost of Dragstrip Hollow, with both his early record setting dragster and his T bucket. The are some real nice close up shots of the dragster cockpit and engine.
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