1964 Suburban Pics

[Alan's Classic]

Looks like some nice progress!! Your on a roll, don't stop.
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[protrash64]

Originally Posted by allaboutchevelles

Nice patch work. Looking very good. keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Looks like some nice progress!! Your on a roll, don't stop.
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Thanx guys......I was just reading 'allaboutchevelles' thread and saw the 180g for body work. I've been using 150 and then went and got 120 as I just wasnt making progress fast enough; meaning that I couldnt get done sanding fast enough!!

The fender has had some work done to it previously but it is not in bad shape overall. I was scuffing it up to see what it was going to require on my next round. Im fired up over this and trying to take advantage of the nice weather.

[allaboutchevelles]

I know what you mean. When sanding the body filler its so much work but you have to control yourself and not get in a hurry or you will have to put more filler on and start all over again. I really respect the guys that do this stuff for a living everyday. I hate having to wear those dust masks and dust all over the shop everywhere.

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by allaboutchevelles

I know what you mean. When sanding the body filler its so much work but you have to control yourself and not get in a hurry or you will have to put more filler on and start all over again. I really respect the guys that do this stuff for a living everyday. I hate having to wear those dust masks and dust all over the shop everywhere.

My problem is that I do not put enough material on to start with. On the roof of the 'burb I found some problem areas. Prepped and filled and then sanded and realized the area was larger than I thought. I have now gone around it at least 6 times. I spent about two days over the back hatch area; finally have it nice. It's going to dictate the whole color depending on how straight I get the roof.

I met this guy once in Phoenix and saw a pic of his 'burb so I saved it. I thought it was cool and had never seen a gold paint job that was fresh; looked awesome. This may be how I paint mine....dont know right now.

[protrash64]

Going a little slower than I thought but I'm still getting there....; wherever that may be. Here are some pics. I'm working at getting a bunch of parts prepped to prime all at once. I also know from past experience that the more work you put in the better the parts turn out.

After reading the thread about all the new parts that dont fit, I guess its six to one half dozen. It still takes a ton of work to patch stuff up, too. Heres the grill support as I am still working it over and then my drivers fender after its done and waiting for the primer. Trial fit my repop and it fit well. Pulled the inner brackets off my old fenders and drilled my new re-pop for the '64 emblem. Im going to pull the grill and headlites so I can get my old stuff out of the way and then begin to assemble the 'new' front clip.

Ok, pics...........

[chad64chevy]

looking good, man!! love the burban, maybe one day i'll have one or atleast i have to wait til my trucks done, before starting on another!!

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by chad64chevy

looking good, man!! love the burban, maybe one day i'll have one or atleast i have to wait til my trucks done, before starting on another!!

Thanks Chad.....'burbs are a lot of work I'm learning!!

Been pluggin' along today and cleaned up the inner fender brackets and shot them with some rust inhibitor. Tore off my grill support and found some things I hadn't noticed before. Dont know if they are 'burb only or if this was a 3/4 ton??

The grill support has brackets with rubber bumpers that sit on the bumper supports; hmmm? I mentioned it before, but the whole front clip and underhood has zinc chromate under the paint. Everywhere! It's peaking out to the far left in the pic with the extra bracket. Also found the core supports are rubber mounted, unlike my pickups that have the brackets riveted to the frame.

Also a shot of the 1/8'' of bondo over some dents on the core support. I could have fixed this one as it's in great shape with the exception of this poor body work. I'm probably going to just use the one I have already done and keep this one.

[protrash64]

Hung the front pieces on just to get an idea of my next set of headaches. Nothings tight, 6 bolts total holding it on......

[chevy_mike]

I think those rubber bumpers are on Suburban and Panel as I found them on my '65 Panel. Thought it was weird but thinking more, it might to help minimize body flex due to the body being mounted the full length of the frame, unlike a truck cab. These might hit the bumper brackets to help prevent some flexing.

At least that's my theory.

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

I think those rubber bumpers are on Suburban and Panel as I found them on my '65 Panel. Thought it was weird but thinking more, it might to help minimize body flex due to the body being mounted the full length of the frame, unlike a truck cab. These might hit the bumper brackets to help prevent some flexing.

At least that's my theory.

Good as any, Mike; I have no clue!!

Finished up the night with a little rattle can resto. Sprayed the crap outta the core support so its presentable. I'll get it more when I have more light.

[Captainfab]

I agree

All Burbs and Panels that I have seen have radiator support mounts that are bonded rubber in the middle like the C20 and up rear cab mounts.

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

I think those rubber bumpers are on Suburban and Panel as I found them on my '65 Panel. Thought it was weird but thinking more, it might to help minimize body flex due to the body being mounted the full length of the frame, unlike a truck cab. These might hit the bumper brackets to help prevent some flexing.

At least that's my theory.

The front clip is looking good

[mosesburb]

I don't know about you, but I would rather fab just about anything than do paint and body work. I admire your progress. Nice work!!

[RockTonka]

Originally Posted by mosesburb

I don't know about you, but I would rather fab just about anything than do paint and body work. I admire your progress. Nice work!!

Man, I am so with you on that! I'm envious of the guys that just jump into it like it's nothing. I know it just takes time, patience, and practice...just one of those things I've never practiced and don't have the time or patience to start now!!

Really looking good Pro...wanna come work on mine??

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

I agree

All Burbs and Panels that I have seen have radiator support mounts that are bonded rubber in the middle like the C20 and up rear cab mounts.


The front clip is looking good

Well, there it is!!................ Thanx Cap'n

Originally Posted by mosesburb

I don't know about you, but I would rather fab just about anything than do paint and body work. I admire your progress. Nice work!!

Thanx Nick. I have to push myself to go do it sometimes.

Originally Posted by RockTonka

Man, I am so with you on that! I'm envious of the guys that just jump into it like it's nothing. I know it just takes time, patience, and practice...just one of those things I've never practiced and don't have the time or patience to start now!!

Really looking good Pro...wanna come work on mine??

UUuuuhhh, no. Well, I'm no expert on body stuff but I am getting better and it takes me a long time to get stuff nice. As far as jumping in, it takes a bunch of supplies and cash to get started. I'm finally to the point that I feel I have the right equipment.

I havent updated my other thread, but I'm actually blocking out my '64 S/B at the same time, so I'm already working on two trucks right now.

[hemifalcon]

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

I think those rubber bumpers are on Suburban and Panel as I found them on my '65 Panel. Thought it was weird but thinking more, it might to help minimize body flex due to the body being mounted the full length of the frame, unlike a truck cab. These might hit the bumper brackets to help prevent some flexing.

At least that's my theory.

Anyone know if there are re-popped versions of those rubber mounts?
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[protrash64]

Well, after staring at the eyebrow above the windshield, I decided to yank the glass and install the patch panel. I'm going to go backwards a bit but in the end it will be less work having a complete piece in there. The worst part is the sealer!! Looks like this thing has had 20 windshields installed. Will post more pics as I go...

[hemifalcon]

Originally Posted by protrash64

Well, after staring at the eyebrow above the windshield, I decided to yank the glass and install the patch panel. I'm going to go backwards a bit but in the end it will be less work having a complete piece in there. The worst part is the sealer!! Looks like this thing has had 20 windshields installed. Will post more pics as I go...

I'm guessing you already cleaned out the sealer.. Cuz otherwise, I've had at least 21 windshields in mine judging by all the gunk and sealer that was piled up along the windshield seal lip!

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by hemifalcon

I'm guessing you already cleaned out the sealer.. Cuz otherwise, I've had at least 21 windshields in mine judging by all the gunk and sealer that was piled up along the windshield seal lip!

Exactly!! Like a combination of silicon and bacon grease!! Also, you have to really want that piece outta there; there are a crap load of welds!! I started on it, but I'm debating on just cutting the ends out and replacing them.

[daverod]

Are you going to do anything to rust proof the inside? Bet some people would just glue it. I think thats how they do a roof.

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by daverod

Are you going to do anything to rust proof the inside? Bet some people would just glue it. I think thats how they do a roof.

I have already sprayed a bunch of rust converter in there. The corner support is the worst part and I've cleaned it up. I have the pieces cut and ready to weld. I'm going to start by welding back the welds I shouldnt have drilled, leaving some open to attach the panels. I cut the ends off and used 10'' off each side. Thought about glue, but it's just one more thing to buy; I already own a welder and drill bits.

[protrash64]

Well, this is as far as I got....tacked in one side and was tired and started hurrying which isnt good so I packed it in for the night. I have to clearance one end for welds; it's difficult to judge as the piece 'tater chips' into place. I need to push up and clamp it then weld the inside edge. It should be easy to finish, along with the other side, tomorrow.

[mosesburb]

Looks great man!! Don't forget to put a welding blanket over your door glass. You don't want an errant piece of slag to ruin your glass. I put slag in almost every piece of glass in my wife's truck tack-welding the well-nuts for the roof rack to the roof skin. Just tack welding. Grinding will do it too. I'm sure you know this already, but didn't want to see you forget too and ruin glass that is much harder to replace than mine was.

Glad to see you keeping on it. Good progress!!

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by mosesburb

Looks great man!! Don't forget to put a welding blanket over your door glass. You don't want an errant piece of slag to ruin your glass. I put slag in almost every piece of glass in my wife's truck tack-welding the well-nuts for the roof rack to the roof skin. Just tack welding. Grinding will do it too. I'm sure you know this already, but didn't want to see you forget too and ruin glass that is much harder to replace than mine was.

Glad to see you keeping on it. Good progress!!

Thanx Nick....I actually didnt know that. I've shot grinding crap all over and not had any issues I'm aware of at the moment. Guess I've been lucky.

You were winning the TOTM earlier.....

[hemifalcon]

Ok... I gotta ask.. Are the very ends at the seams welded inside--so to say "hidden"?? I'll be replacing the whole panel and have been curious about this part... Looks great BTW
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[protrash64]

Originally Posted by hemifalcon

Ok... I gotta ask.. Are the very ends at the seams welded inside--so to say "hidden"?? I'll be replacing the whole panel and have been curious about this part... Looks great BTW
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No they aren't, that would suck taking them apart!! There are one or two spot welds on the tab inside straight up thru the panel; in the area of the hole in the new panel. I considered welding it myself for a smooth look. It's hard to see but the factory filled in the gaps with some type of body filler which will fall out as you start cleaning.

I'm glad to have this done!!!