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dammitmitchell · 09-18-2009, 07:36 PM

show off...
hehehhe
what about saab and subaru steering? they are narrow like that little car...
and saabs ar ea dime a dozen now in the junk yards..

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 09-18-2009, 09:13 PM

Why not just make it right hand drive???? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

hgs_notes · 09-18-2009, 10:27 PM

What about something like a 4x4 cross over steering? Except maybe cross under steering.

dammitmitchell · 09-18-2009, 10:50 PM

<<<commentary removed by me due to it being retarded and time for me to go to sleep.... stupid pills...>>>>>>

Frizzle Fry · 09-20-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

Why not just make it right hand drive???? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I thought about it for a few seconds but I JUST finished off the PS firewall...

Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell

show off...
hehehhe
what about saab and subaru steering? they are narrow like that little car...
and saabs ar ea dime a dozen now in the junk yards..

I'll take a look at them

Quote:

Originally Posted by hgs_notes

What about something like a 4x4 cross over steering? Except maybe cross under steering.

hmmmmmmm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dammitmitchell

<<<commentary removed by me due to it being retarded and time for me to go to sleep.... stupid pills...>>>>>>

woodwright · 09-21-2009, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

The problem is that all the center steer units I can find are designed for rear steer. I may end up getting a RHD rear steer unit and using it for LHD front steer... We'll see.

A center steer from a 94ish Dodge intrepid would be correct.
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They mount to the firewall, but the tie rods cross over the crossmember. This one's in my GMC, but I don't think I'm gonna use it. Let me know if you need any dimensions or anything.

Frizzle Fry · 09-21-2009, 04:34 PM

Great tip! Thanks! I will look into those. I'd really like to stay manual if I can.

Jvsapp · 09-21-2009, 10:46 PM

if you need a RHD rack, i have one sitting in the clip i got for my 20V swap still. i'd be willing to donate it

also you could look at a 84-87 RWD corolla. some of them had manual racks that are pretty thin. also Techno Toy Tuning has an adapter that allows you to use an 84-87 MR2 manual rack in those corolla's so i'm sure it can be adapted to your needs

i forgot to mention i saw a rack setup that uses the center links like you have posted in your pics in one of my latest superchevy or chevy high performance mags for camaro/nova. i gotta go find the add when i get home but i'll post a link if they have it.

6772owner · 09-23-2009, 02:35 PM

FF I saw a few ads for a similar set-up to what you are looking for, the Unisteer system (unisteer.com) and Flaming River has a few systems too. Just thought I would mention it.

Frizzle Fry · 09-24-2009, 12:58 AM

Thanks. You are absolutely right. I am currently working with Unisteer to design a custom rack. They are a little behind the curve though (or at least the rep I'm dealing with is). Their custom rack spec form only applies to end-steer (conventional) racks yet they insisted I fill one out. So I modified their form to apply to a center-steer rack and gave them my specs. Waiting to hear back...

I might try Flaming River if Unisteer fails.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6772owner

FF I saw a few ads for a similar set-up to what you are looking for, the Unisteer system (unisteer.com) and Flaming River has a few systems too. Just thought I would mention it.

6772owner · 09-24-2009, 09:17 AM

Glad to hear it, figured you were already on it from the looks of the build. Good luck with the set-up, hope you get something figured out soon.

Jvsapp · 10-05-2009, 11:21 PM

figure i stir this post again... looking for inspiration

454_72_4X4 · 10-05-2009, 11:59 PM

I may have some more info for ya FF. This weekend I had to change the hydraulic throw out bearing, (slave cylinder), in our beater. ( 95 Chevy Beretta).
Anyway while I was in there I noticed it has a center steer rack similar to the Intrepid one woodwright posted. Dunno if it'd help ya out any but I thought of this thread when I seen the beretta rack... LOL

Frizzle Fry · 10-06-2009, 01:12 AM

Well, I have "someone in the industry" dealing with Unisteer for me now. It seems they are undermanned in a big way. Had to pull some strings to get things moving with them. Actually he offered and I am very thankful.

The Baretta rack is rear steer I believe, just like the cavalier. The center take-off (as I have learned it's called) is indeed what I am looking for. But if you use a rear steer rack as front steer you get reversed steering

Progress slowed over the last couple weeks. Been working tons of OT at work which is great for the toy budget, but bad for toy time...

My straight die grinder also died which has slowed the DS inner fender work.

I should post pics of the header work I did.

I also did some work on the steering column/firewall passthrough.

Boxed the lower link brackets on the rearend and installed it again.

Plasma cut a hole to fit the S2000 shifter in the Minx floor hump/tunnel.

...and continue to pursue a steering rack...

454_72_4X4 · 10-06-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

The Baretta rack is rear steer I believe, just like the cavalier. The center take-off (as I have learned it's called) is indeed what I am looking for. But if you use a rear steer rack as front steer you get reversed steering

...and continue to pursue a steering rack...

Yep, you are correct. the beretta is rear steer. I forgot about where you needed the rack placed.

Come on, where your sense of adventure.... reversed steering would just take a few minutes to get used to...LOL And nobody would steel it, (and get away with it that is)...hahaha

And the search continues.... I tried...LOl

impalamark · 10-19-2009, 09:41 PM

Mike
I know this is a little off the base but today I almost ran off the
road looking at what appeared to be your exact same car
same color same red trim and wheels. Hard to believe. It was in excellent shape.looked fully restored or very good original.
If I hadn't been going the opposite direction I would have chased him down.

Frizzle Fry · 10-20-2009, 01:06 AM

Haha! That's awesome! That's probably the only other one like it in the country (paint scheme and all). It may have been badged a Hillman (same car, different name). Very cool that you noticed

felixthecatjr · 10-20-2009, 06:50 PM

FF, something to think about

Frizzle Fry · 10-20-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by felixthecatjr

FF, something to think about

mmmm, Nice. Check this out.

Frizzle Fry · 10-21-2009, 12:09 AM

Long overdue update. Not much progress of late but here's what I've got. Some of these were mentioned before but here's the pics to back it up...

Frizzle Fry · 10-21-2009, 12:20 AM

The whole point of that header work was to tuck it in tighter. Worked out pretty well:

Added a little boxing to the lower link brackets:

Playing with shifter/tunnel placement:

Orange on the steering wheel is just tape for protection:

...and a possible placement for a clue to what it's packin

my67chevytruck · 10-21-2009, 08:05 AM

looking good Mike!

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 10-21-2009, 10:29 AM

She is really looking good....

ERASER5 · 10-21-2009, 03:34 PM

Ahhh! I needed that fix! Withdrawal symptoms suck!

Thanks!

Alan's Classic · 10-21-2009, 10:32 PM

Beautiful work!!

09-18-2009, 07:36 PM	#276
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... show off... hehehhe what about saab and subaru steering? they are narrow like that little car... and saabs ar ea dime a dozen now in the junk yards.. __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042 Last edited by dammitmitchell; 09-18-2009 at 07:37 PM.

09-18-2009, 09:13 PM	#277
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,608	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Why not just make it right hand drive???? mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

09-18-2009, 10:27 PM	#278
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09-18-2009, 10:50 PM	#279
dammitmitchell the pollock Join Date: May 2008 Location: abilene, texas Posts: 4,423	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... <<<commentary removed by me due to it being retarded and time for me to go to sleep.... stupid pills...>>>>>> __________________ Jack of ALL trades, Master of none.. (but one... procrastination) Army vet 02-08 RIP El Jay! Miss you brother! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=343538 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=386042 Last edited by dammitmitchell; 09-18-2009 at 10:51 PM.

09-21-2009, 04:34 PM	#282
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Great tip! Thanks! I will look into those. I'd really like to stay manual if I can. Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 09-21-2009 at 04:36 PM.

09-21-2009, 10:46 PM	#283
Jvsapp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on a rock in the pacific Posts: 554	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... if you need a RHD rack, i have one sitting in the clip i got for my 20V swap still. i'd be willing to donate it also you could look at a 84-87 RWD corolla. some of them had manual racks that are pretty thin. also Techno Toy Tuning has an adapter that allows you to use an 84-87 MR2 manual rack in those corolla's so i'm sure it can be adapted to your needs i forgot to mention i saw a rack setup that uses the center links like you have posted in your pics in one of my latest superchevy or chevy high performance mags for camaro/nova. i gotta go find the add when i get home but i'll post a link if they have it. __________________ 63 4 door Chevy II - NOVACATION (Updated 08/23/09) 65 Morris minor Traveler 77 Chevy Longbed. 93 Corolla JDM 20V Swap Daily Driver (Updated 07/16/09) Powder coating Hawaii Domestic Violence Awareness Show 5/3/09 Hawaii Rod and Custom Show 4/18 Last edited by Jvsapp; 09-21-2009 at 11:22 PM.

09-23-2009, 02:35 PM	#284
6772owner Gearhead Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,193	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... FF I saw a few ads for a similar set-up to what you are looking for, the Unisteer system (unisteer.com) and Flaming River has a few systems too. Just thought I would mention it. __________________ 2002 Saturn SL2, My D/D 2019 Ford Fusion SE, Ecoboost - Wife's D/D 1993 Camaro Z28, A4, CAI, Cat-Back Exhaust Project C10 (my 72' C10 w/96' LT1, 700R4, bagged F&R, 18's (for now), Short/Fleet) -- SOLD! Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313644

09-24-2009, 09:17 AM	#286
6772owner Gearhead Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,193	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Glad to hear it, figured you were already on it from the looks of the build. Good luck with the set-up, hope you get something figured out soon. __________________ 2002 Saturn SL2, My D/D 2019 Ford Fusion SE, Ecoboost - Wife's D/D 1993 Camaro Z28, A4, CAI, Cat-Back Exhaust Project C10 (my 72' C10 w/96' LT1, 700R4, bagged F&R, 18's (for now), Short/Fleet) -- SOLD! Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313644

10-05-2009, 11:21 PM	#287
Jvsapp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on a rock in the pacific Posts: 554	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... figure i stir this post again... looking for inspiration __________________ 63 4 door Chevy II - NOVACATION (Updated 08/23/09) 65 Morris minor Traveler 77 Chevy Longbed. 93 Corolla JDM 20V Swap Daily Driver (Updated 07/16/09) Powder coating Hawaii Domestic Violence Awareness Show 5/3/09 Hawaii Rod and Custom Show 4/18

10-05-2009, 11:59 PM	#288
454_72_4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: N.E. MO Posts: 1,749	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... I may have some more info for ya FF. This weekend I had to change the hydraulic throw out bearing, (slave cylinder), in our beater. ( 95 Chevy Beretta). Anyway while I was in there I noticed it has a center steer rack similar to the Intrepid one woodwright posted. Dunno if it'd help ya out any but I thought of this thread when I seen the beretta rack... LOL __________________ 72 C20 4X4 454 4 speed 89 Trans Am (was) 305 TPI 700r4 93 C1500 2wd Extended cab 350 700r4 98 Sonoma (TPI outa the Trans Am) 03 Yamaha 660 Raptor 03/04 660 Raptor 07 700 Raptor 85 Honda Odyssey

10-06-2009, 01:12 AM	#289
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Well, I have "someone in the industry" dealing with Unisteer for me now. It seems they are undermanned in a big way. Had to pull some strings to get things moving with them. Actually he offered and I am very thankful. The Baretta rack is rear steer I believe, just like the cavalier. The center take-off (as I have learned it's called) is indeed what I am looking for. But if you use a rear steer rack as front steer you get reversed steering Progress slowed over the last couple weeks. Been working tons of OT at work which is great for the toy budget, but bad for toy time... My straight die grinder also died which has slowed the DS inner fender work. I should post pics of the header work I did. I also did some work on the steering column/firewall passthrough. Boxed the lower link brackets on the rearend and installed it again. Plasma cut a hole to fit the S2000 shifter in the Minx floor hump/tunnel. ...and continue to pursue a steering rack...

10-19-2009, 09:41 PM	#291
impalamark Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: cocoa florida Posts: 183	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Mike I know this is a little off the base but today I almost ran off the road looking at what appeared to be your exact same car same color same red trim and wheels. Hard to believe. It was in excellent shape.looked fully restored or very good original. If I hadn't been going the opposite direction I would have chased him down. __________________ the avatar was my 62 I owned for 27 years 84 chevy short short bed black 84 gmc long bed copper/ buckskin 88 chevy k5 blazer white Life's short make the most of it Mark aka impalmark Last edited by impalamark; 10-19-2009 at 09:41 PM.

10-20-2009, 01:06 AM	#292
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Haha! That's awesome! That's probably the only other one like it in the country (paint scheme and all). It may have been badged a Hillman (same car, different name). Very cool that you noticed

10-20-2009, 06:50 PM	#293
felixthecatjr Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 20	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... FF, something to think about Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 10-20-2009 at 11:38 PM. Reason: no change...

10-21-2009, 12:09 AM	#295
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Long overdue update. Not much progress of late but here's what I've got. Some of these were mentioned before but here's the pics to back it up...



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10-21-2009, 12:20 AM	#296
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... The whole point of that header work was to tuck it in tighter. Worked out pretty well: Added a little boxing to the lower link brackets: Playing with shifter/tunnel placement: Orange on the steering wheel is just tape for protection: ...and a possible placement for a clue to what it's packin

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