My '67 Fleetside C10 renew

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by Low Elco

I think evercoat makes it. The ppg store will know what youre talking about.
Featherfill G2 is even better for you. Google both of these names. Autobodystore.com will show it, so will Eastwood. Just mudwork and epoxy IS NOT ENOUGH. You'll have a bunch of work and dough and it'll look like crap. You and the kid need to get some long blocks and G2 and hunker down and prime and block that sucker. A lot. DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THIS. It's dirt easy, but this is the long hard work that separates the men from the boys.
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Its about time that Boy became a MAN. Think this'll do it huh? Feather fill it is!

Originally Posted by Bomp

I agree. Block, Block, Block and a beer too
Great advise and Im taking notes.

How bout BLOCK, BEER, BLOCK, BEER, BEER, BLOCK, BEER, BEER, BEER, BLOCK? I see a pattern here! I'm anxious to get rolling and get to the color part!

Originally Posted by butternut1972

^^^^^What they said^^ But mine went Beer, Beer, Block,Beer,etc...you get the idea. I guess thats why it took so long to get paint on it. Take your time Buddy it's looking great.

I'm with you man! In a past life I was a cabinet builder. When you start you SAND. The boss is never happy with it neitha! I got the hang of it though and before you knew it I was working on the cool stuff!

Originally Posted by XxCHEVYMANxX

I agree, you definitely need to sand with a long board. vehicle surfaces are just to big to do without it. and when you think you done, your probably not. once everything is level, get in close to inspect for minor blemishes, pinholes. If you can see it, then you will see it in the paint as well. It does take time, but you will be very happy with the end result !

I really appreciate the advice and encouragement! Now about blocks.... For sure I'll get a long board, but what else should I get?? I've seen dudes use a chunk of air hose for inside radiuses and such. What about spots like the A pillar? It's pretty damn smooth with no metal work or filler. Dash? Headliner? Should I be "blocking" those surfaces too? What about firewall? Its epoxied. Should I just leave it until I'm ready for base coat then scuff it or should I scuff it and prime it again?

Thanks Chevy dudes!!!!

[steelhorse]

Looking good so far. Any word on the engine?

[jlsanborn]

Picked up that set of Durablocks and a gallon of Feather Fill. Will report!

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by steelhorse

Looking good so far. Any word on the engine?

Thanks dude! Haven't touched the engine yet. Still gotta get Boy to drag it down to the school for an inside mic. Maybe next week?

[Low Elco]

Yaaaay! Hot tip- take your sander and round one side of those d-blox over on about a 1/8 radius. They tend to dig in as you approach level changes. Also, most paint store cats are hot rodders-let em know what you're up to, they'll usually be helpful. You got a roll of 80 and a roll of 150 stickyback and some guide coat, right? I really like that 3m stuff. Remember, sand at a 45 angle away from you, long a stroke as possible, alternating directions to make an x. Hope im not being a pushy ass, just hoping your truck comes out good, youve made a great start! Good Luck!
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[Low Elco]

Also, the round d-block proved to be all I needed for the curves. I just scrubbed the firewall and a pillar smooth. Had a biiiig hole in both roof sides. Blocked the repair, scrubbed the rest. If you can still roll the cab on its back or flip it on its nose, that's the hot tip for painting the inner cab roof.
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[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by Low Elco

Yaaaay! Hot tip- take your sander and round one side of those d-blox over on about a 1/8 radius. They tend to dig in as you approach level changes. Also, most paint store cats are hot rodders-let em know what you're up to, they'll usually be helpful. You got a roll of 80 and a roll of 150 stickyback and some guide coat, right? I really like that 3m stuff. Remember, sand at a 45 angle away from you, long a stroke as possible, alternating directions to make an x. Hope im not being a pushy ass, just hoping your truck comes out good, youve made a great start! Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Low Elco

Also, the round d-block proved to be all I needed for the curves. I just scrubbed the firewall and a pillar smooth. Had a biiiig hole in both roof sides. Blocked the repair, scrubbed the rest. If you can still roll the cab on its back or flip it on its nose, that's the hot tip for painting the inner cab roof.
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Not pushy ass at all! I was eyeballin the easy road, thinkin I could half-ass down that way to assembly and you helped convince me. I appreciate that and all the tips and advice you're throwing my way. I really don't think it'll be that bad. I didn't get any abrasives cuz I still wasn't sure what I'd need. I'm done with the pucky except one small repiar I've got on a fender and then prolly just tiny spots here and there that show after epoxy. I was thinking 200 then 400 from here on out. I've got some 180 to scuff epoxy. What's the advantage to wet sanding? Is it just to wash the dust off you're work and keep the paper clean? That's gonna BLOW now that it's getting cold.

So for the firewall, pillars and areas that won't need blocked... Should I still put G2 on there before basecoat or should I only apply G2 where I need to block? Can I just use rattle can acrylic enamel or black primer for guide coat? What about tinting some of this G2? Oh ya, I just got grey. Is that going to be best for the butternut yellow and white basecoats?

[FrankieD]

Man I am glad I didn't have to do any major body work !!!

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by FrankieD

Man I am glad I didn't have to do any major body work !!!

Me too!

This thing was really pretty solid Frankie. For the most part I just filled holes that the PO drilled here and there. There was some small areas of rot, but really nothing to speak of. Some of the stuff you see going on around here is amazing to me. Seen that Bomp fella? He's going to have some body work to do there!

[Low Elco]

You'll need 150 and 240 sticky back block paper, and some da paper in the same grit. They sell guide coat in a spray can at the paint store. DO NOT use any normal spray bomb stuff. Clogs paper and can cause bad juju. If your small areas are cool, apillars and such, you can wet sand epoxy with 400 or scuff with a scotchbrite, and shoot paint over it. Big areas, 2 coats g2, guide after dry, block 150. When good, shoot 1 coat g2, guide, block 240. When good, light coat g2, guide, wet block 400. Base and clear.edges and small smooth areas can be scrubbed in with a red scotchbrite (paint store) g2 where blocking needed, you can scuff epoxy and shoot paint over the rest.

[Bomp]

Looks like your down to the nitty-gritty. You'll be done and onto the boys rig next.
Things on my end. well. Slow but steady.
Did you get your heat situation figured out? Cause the stupid cold wet rain is here for awhile.

[jlsanborn]

You're ROCKIN! I may be to the nitty but I bet the gritty is gonna be a long road. I have this mental list going but I'm always like "oh ya, I gotta do that too". Every day while diggin through my piles of parts I find something that I spaced off or ain't figured out yet. I've gone WAY out of scope here but its gonna be cool!
Boy ain't all that interested in pimpin the S10. He wants to drop it another inch or two in the rear and get some cool rubber but that's about it. He's constantly on the craigslist looking at Chevelles, Novas and friggen knee knockers! I keep pushin him to go small block but he thinks it'd be gay or something!
Been splitting wood before the weather goes to hell. I'll be back on the project soon if my back holds up!
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[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by Bomp

Looks like your down to the nitty-gritty. You'll be done and onto the boys rig next.
Things on my end. well. Slow but steady.
Did you get your heat situation figured out? Cause the stupid cold wet rain is here for awhile.

Heat is a beotch but I can make it warm in there. I've got it pretty well insulated and have a woodstove. I hung some fans up in the trusses too. It takes a LOT of wood though!
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[XxCHEVYMANxX]

Just checkin in on ya, I havent been on here the last few days. looks like low elco has you covered on paint/prep advice. couldnt have said it better. anyway hope your gettin along ok.

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by XxCHEVYMANxX

Just checkin in on ya, I havent been on here the last few days. looks like low elco has you covered on paint/prep advice. couldnt have said it better. anyway hope your gettin along ok.

Yup, think I have a plan! I put soooo much time into cleaning the old crap off. It's deserving of a nice finish. The scotchbrite technique is GREAT news. I was dreading having to cut all that epoxy in the little corners and such with paper.

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by Low Elco

You'll need 150 and 240 sticky back block paper, and some da paper in the same grit. They sell guide coat in a spray can at the paint store. DO NOT use any normal spray bomb stuff. Clogs paper and can cause bad juju. If your small areas are cool, apillars and such, you can wet sand epoxy with 400 or scuff with a scotchbrite, and shoot paint over it. Big areas, 2 coats g2, guide after dry, block 150. When good, shoot 1 coat g2, guide, block 240. When good, light coat g2, guide, wet block 400. Base and clear.edges and small smooth areas can be scrubbed in with a red scotchbrite (paint store) g2 where blocking needed, you can scuff epoxy and shoot paint over the rest.

Thanks man! I'll pick up some gritty and git to it! I still have that seam sealer to finish up and touch up with epoxy but then i'll be blocking! I'll use Wifey's fancy camera and put up some good pics for your review and approval. Every pic on this thread to date has been from my phone!
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[Low Elco]

I'll say it-Got Wood? Reminds me of back in the day, we had a 67 3/4 ton and made the house payments filling it with wood on my great uncle's farm. Chucked many a cord into that truck. You oughta be warm!

[jlsanborn]

Sorry for all the off-topic crap again! We filled the wood-shed last weekend and still had a BUNCH of them big rounds left. It's starting to rain and it's killin me watchin it get wet. I should be able to finish splitting that tonight and get it tarped......then clean the $hit-hole, then back on the truck!!!

[jlsanborn]

So I'm calling this weekend MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Got the rest of that wood split and put up. Did a little more welding on that splitter, pressure washed and returned to the lender. Thanks Sid!!!

Got the $hit-hole cleaned up and sorta organized. Sanded out them vent window frames and re-sprayed with a little reducer. Still not glass but I think it'll be good. I'm learning.... Should be a good week for the truck coming up.

Also hauled the Crummy in for an ignition tune / re-curve. When we built the motor the dizzy was a pile. I bought a "new" HEI from the local speed shop for like $80. That got it going but its already clapped. The mechanical advance is POS and gets stuck. When it breaks free it'll still only advance like 10 or 12 degrees. Gonna have to buck-up for a nice unit. I've got initial whacked up as high as I can so it'll still crank worth a crap and half-a$$ idle. I'll tell ya tho, them test drives down the dirt road are fun!!! Little clutchin in third to get them secondaries burning and wheeeeeeeee!!!! Shoulda takin pics of the marks. That locking diff is tight and the BFGs are diggers! Had to shut her down before the neigbors called the fuzz.

[jlsanborn]

Kay so I looked at the pics I posted then went out for a closer look. CRAP!!! I'll have to sand them down and re-spray them AGAIN! I'll get it..... sooner or later!!!

[Bomp]

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Kay so I looked at the pics I posted then went out for a closer look. CRAP!!! I'll have to sand them down and re-spray them AGAIN! I'll get it..... sooner or later!!!

Don't worry man, been there myself. Its just paint. Itss juuusst PAINT. Sand and re shoot. I shot a jet ski once and drug the air line across the brand new glittery paint in front of the owner. He freaked so I sent him to go get some beer. By the time he got back. Magic,,,, it was all better and he celebrated. Even gave me extra cash for doing a good job.
You'll get it.

[butternut1972]

Yep...I was feeling the same way about all of the small parts. it is worth it Bro! It all pays off when you get towards the end and you'll be glad you did. Keep up the nice work.

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by butternut1972

Yep...I was feeling the same way about all of the small parts. it is worth it Bro! It all pays off when you get towards the end and you'll be glad you did. Keep up the nice work.

Thanks for the encouragement man! It's just sooo hard to draw the line. I would love to make it all perfect but then it'd never get done and I wouldn't want to use it like I intend to use it. I've already lost sleep over the bedwood and I ain't even bought it yet!

It's gonna be cool tho!!!

[Low Elco]

Reeeeeeeeelaaaaaax, man! Very simple line, that you gotta draw. Driver, or show truck. Yeller was built to be a driver. Yes, it's nice. Yes, even people who know what the hell they're talking about say it's nice. But it ain't no show truck. Because there's NO end to that bit. None. Refer to Superfly Steiny/Cloud 9. Hell, Losh is just scratching the surface. Wait'll he starts on the Blazer. Nuthin' wrong with that, but you ain't gonna jump in Cloud 9 and run to Lowe's, or chuck a set of wheels in the back and go get tires swapped. Yeller has a set in the bed as we speak. Best car advice I ever heard is, formulate a plan and stick to the plan with a few minor deviations. Scope creep is a MF'er, and will leave you with a truck you have a fortune into, and you can't drive! Yeller is costing Boppa $100/mo, and will for the foreseeable future, because it turned out so nice that Momma said that the bass boat had to be in storage, because Yeller was coming inside, no discussion. Anyway, don't beat yourself up. Do the best job you can, clean it all up and make it nice, but don't crucify youself over small stuff, 'cause that knocks the fun right out of this deal. Now get back at it! Go to the paint store and ask for the Lord brand sealer that fits in a standard caulk gun. Comes out kinda buttery and tan. Great stuff. Relax and enjoy your build!

[jlsanborn]

Sound advice right there! It is for sure gonna be a driver and I tell myself that all the time, then I wind up lost in the broccoli. I guess I never really had a detailed plan and that's got me spinning my wheels. I'm bouncing around and never get anything DONE it seems. I've got parts EVERYWHERE that I've done a little work to but nothing finished.

Thanks for the tip on sealer too. Johnny loves butter and really wants to get past that stage. I'm going to pick some up today.