Project Vitamin C-10

[flips72]

bed and tailgate look great, i wish a thousand times over i would have just brought mine to you and let you do it. great work, cant wait to see some color on it.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

WOW looks perfect.

Thanks Dennis, it's not perfect, but it will look good.

Originally Posted by awbrown

Being a member of this board does two things , One , you get to see just how good other guys on the forum are .. And second it forces me to try new things , in hopes of someday doing work that is better (not ever equal to yours Alan ) .. Tonight I replaced the trans tunnel and shifter in my 63.. The one that was in it was hacked bad , and the one that was replacing it needed a corner replaced .. the hacked one had a good corner ,so I thought I would try to do it right instead of overlapping them like I do most of the time ... after fitting the pieces and welding it all together I thought to myself "Alan must be rubbing off on me" .. Then I reviewed some of your work and came back to real life.....

Congrats on your accomplishment. All you can do is give it a shot and it sounds like you succeeded. Awesome!!!

You as well as others make it seem as though I do no wrong. I appreciate it. The fact is things are not always as they appear in pics. You ever seen a truck advertised and it looks good in pics until you get there and wonder if it was the same truck. Mine might not be that extreme of a case. I'm a normal guy just trying to share the experience and hope help someone in the process. Thanks for the kudos. Keep trying new task you will be amazed at what you can do with a little imagination.

Originally Posted by flips72

bed and tailgate look great, i wish a thousand times over i would have just brought mine to you and let you do it. great work, cant wait to see some color on it.

Thanks Flip, it's taken 4 years almost to get to this point. I'm kind of slow. You will get a better satisfaction of doing it your self. I hope to have it painted with in a month depending on the work load at work. I just hope it matches the cab.

I spent anout and 1.5hr blocking the TG and about 3 hr blocking the outside of one bedside. Blocking is a critical step. This is being blocked with 320. If it all blocks out good I will guide coat again and block with 600.

I also forgot to tell ya that when I primed the new parts I used an etch primer on all of the bare metal. Etch cannot be sprayed over filler. After the etch I sprayed PPG K38 primer.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Etch cannot be sprayed over filler. After the etch I sprayed PPG K38 primer.

I didn't know that. I do it all the time with no problems.
Why can't you use etching primer over filler???

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

I didn't know that. I do it all the time with no problems.
Why can't you use etching primer over filler???

I did some searching, tho most of the peoples responses are all over the place. I've been told and have read the etch primers are for metal only. There might not be any adverse reactions in spraying over filler. I also read it is "old school" and epoxy primers have replaced the etch primers. I'm not a chemist, but try to inform myself as much as possible. Here is Duponts PDF on their etch primer.

Here is a quote out of the PDF

Application
Substrates
Properly prepared/cleaned steel, aluminum and galvanized

I picked up this VGC 63 grill with T3 lights. It's complete. I'm thinking about going and getting the headlight mount panel. It was in good condition as well. I'm not going to use it on my truck, just know they are desirable.

[Strodder]

Thanks for the info. Nice grill. If I didn't just buy a new chrome one I might want it.

[XtechX]

Alan- Did you ever find a vent handle stud for you vent windows? I'm having the same problem, I cant seem to find a new stud. I have tried to fab one, but not sure how to attach it to the window...weld it on or what...any thoughts??? Also looking for the little chrome rectangle chrome that goes on the division bar if you know where I might be able to find one. Thanks Alan..your wisdom os always appreciated.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by XtechX

Alan- Did you ever find a vent handle stud for you vent windows? I'm having the same problem, I cant seem to find a new stud. I have tried to fab one, but not sure how to attach it to the window...weld it on or what...any thoughts??? Also looking for the little chrome rectangle chrome that goes on the division bar if you know where I might be able to find one. Thanks Alan..your wisdom os always appreciated.

The last time I checked there is not a repair kit. The piece you are making will have to welded on. The rectangle piece isnt available as far as I know. That would be fairly easy to make. I have a few extra window frames laying around. LMK if you need one.
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[XtechX]

I will have to check and see what side I need. I know I need the chrome piece for one side and the pivot on the other...lol. How much do you need for a vent window frame?
thanks.

[Strodder]

That's why I love this Forum.

[greg65]

Nice grille Alan. Are you going to paint it or have it chromed?

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by XtechX

I will have to check and see what side I need. I know I need the chrome piece for one side and the pivot on the other...lol. How much do you need for a vent window frame?
thanks.

Let me know what you need exactly thru a PM and I will check what I have and condition.

Originally Posted by Strodder

That's why I love this Forum.

Amen brother!!

Originally Posted by greg65

Nice grille Alan. Are you going to paint it or have it chromed?

I don't need it. I'm considering selling it.

[structures]

Alan, I was reading one of your post the other day about cavity wax being ideal for restoration. With the panel replacements I've been doing I've been going in and por-15'ing the internals of my 65 cab with an undercoating gun and 3 foot wand. Then I got to thinking I'm doing all this welding afterwords so it's most likely just burning off a lot of this paint.

I just wanted your opinion. Do you use this stuff a lot? What does it take to apply it? I seen some 3M cavity wax wands online but I wonder if I could use my own undercoating gun (it's an eastwood cheapy)? How thick is this stuff? I guess I'm looking for the "cavity wax for dummies" cliff notes? Sorry if I'm asking a loaded question here, I just don't know anything about the stuff.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by structures

Alan, I was reading one of your post the other day about cavity wax being ideal for restoration. With the panel replacements I've been doing I've been going in and por-15'ing the internals of my 65 cab with an undercoating gun and 3 foot wand. Then I got to thinking I'm doing all this welding afterwords so it's most likely just burning off a lot of this paint.

I just wanted your opinion. Do you use this stuff a lot? What does it take to apply it? I seen some 3M cavity wax wands online but I wonder if I could use my own undercoating gun (it's an eastwood cheapy)? How thick is this stuff? I guess I'm looking for the "cavity wax for dummies" cliff notes? Sorry if I'm asking a loaded question here, I just don't know anything about the stuff.

I use it as needed. It's a sprayable waxy substance. It comes out very thin and runny. Once the solvent dries it leaves the coating.

Here is a link to what I am using. It's Kent inner panel rustproofer PN P60305

Here is the optional 360* spray pattern wand. Kent's PN KT14725

[structures]

thanks a lot, I'll try it out.

[XtechX]

Hey Alan, I sent a pm about the vent window frame, I hope it went through correctly?
Needing the passenger frame, thanks.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by XtechX

Hey Alan, I sent a pm about the vent window frame, I hope it went through correctly?
Needing the passenger frame, thanks.

It never came thru. I PM'd you just now.

[XtechX]

I sent a reply, hopefully it works this time. Maybe im just flat out doing it wrong...lol

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by XtechX

I sent a reply, hopefully it works this time. Maybe im just flat out doing it wrong...lol

I got it, it takes a little getting use to. Replied back.

[duallyjams]

So after chew en the fat are going to have a how to seminar ( all the amazing work that you have done on your truck )

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by duallyjams

So after chew en the fat are going to have a how to seminar ( all the amazing work that you have done on your truck )

I wish, I have prior comitments afterwards.

Making some progress.

Used the inner panel rustproofer in the cab supports and rockers.



I put some paper down to catch the run out.



Wiped the excess off while it was still wet after pics were taken.





Made more progress will post later......

[Alan's Classic]

Got the column seal and retainer plate installed. It also shows the speedo cable installed and ebrake cable. The ebrake isn't connected underneath yet.



Installed the Jeg's mini starter.




Dirty throttle linkage.



Cleaned and painted.

[joe231]

nice work Alan!!
the devil is certainly in the details...

where can I get some of that "inner panel rustproofer"
EDIT:
nevermind i just read up a few posts and found the info

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by joe231

nice work Alan!!
the devil is certainly in the details...

where can I get some of that "inner panel rustproofer"
EDIT:
nevermind i just read up a few posts and found the info

Thanks Joe!

I entered my 55 in TOTM contest. Click here to see the results, it's lagging behind.

[Vernski]

Hi Alan I was thinking of buying a paint spray-gun and was wondering what you thought of Eastwoods kits they are offering and or what you would recommend? The one I was looking at was for primer & paint thanks...Vernski??

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Vernski

Hi Alan I was thinking of buying a paint spray-gun and was wondering what you thought of Eastwoods kits they are offering and or what you would recommend? The one I was looking at was for primer & paint thanks...Vernski??

Hey Vern, that's a tough one. Everybody has their preference. I can't speak of eastwoods guns, I can't remember what they look like. I have 2 guns. It would be great if I had three. I would have a primer, color and clear gun. Mine were $75ea off matco tool truck several years ago. They work good, but don't atomize the paint as well as a Sata or Iwata. I use the painters guns at work and man what a difference. I love the Iwatas. It's hard to get metallics out of my gun without zebra stripping. I've gotten use to them.

To answer your question I would first determin if your spraying solid color or metallic. If your spraying clear make sure you have a clear only gun if money permits. No matter how well you clean your gun something will come out and it won't be the same color as the base coat. Been there and done that. You can make do with one gun just be ready for contaminants. It doesn't happen much, but when it does you will have a few choice words. Check pawn shops, ebay or even craigslist you never know what you might find. Clen them up good and maybe a seal kit. The paint you will be shooting will tell you on the can which tip to use.

I hope this answered your question. It's a tough one.