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Old 03-20-2016, 12:59 PM   #1
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The head bolts thread into the water jacket, so they need a sealant to keep the coolant from wicking its way up the threads.

I use Permatex thread sealer on bolts, but yours come with the sealer already applied - saves a step!
Bingo! Also note when installing intake manifolds you should apply sealant to those bolts to avoid wicking of oil up the threads.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:04 PM   #2
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The head bolts thread into the water jacket, so they need a sealant to keep the coolant from wicking its way up the threads.

I use Permatex thread sealer on bolts, but yours come with the sealer already applied - saves a step!
Good info Skinny G, but I need more, I have a fever and I need more cow bell, which specific Permatex thread sealer do you recommend, the word on the street is use #2?
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:10 PM   #3
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Good info Skinny G, but I need more, I have a fever and I need more cow bell, which specific Permatex thread sealer do you recommend, the word on the street is use #2?
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:20 PM   #4
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oh goodness, time to go to PJC - Permatex Junior College there are so many thread sealants - oh I see, you recommend the good stuff the High Temp, nice!
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:21 PM   #5
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cleaned the other half of the valves this morning and lapped them and the seats in the passenger side Vortec (C 16 9) cylinder head

and finally got to paint the heads,
pic 1 - prepped

pic 2 - first light coat

pic 3 - second light coat

pic 4 - final medium coat
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:24 PM   #6
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lets see these beauties side by side, a non painted ugly ducklin' and the finished shinny product

Gentlemen let me tell you it felt great to get these in the paint booth finally, you can only imagine

the last pic is my favorite, they look mean, they look like their going fast just sitting there, ha ha
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:29 PM   #7
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then it was time for the other side, I swear the sun, the light, and shadows make these heads look seven different colors, but I assure you its one lovely cast iron hue, ha ha

top pic especially doesn't do it justice, its definately not that dark
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:37 PM   #8
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and then I caught a bit of painting fever, anything but more head cleaning and valve lapping, I swear

so I got ahold of the water pump pulley, remember this filthy guy, and decided it was its turn to shine!
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:39 PM   #9
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even rubbed its belly

yeah I'm the guy who lifts the rug when he vacuums, ha ha

I think I cleaned more places that nobody will ever see, than my college roommate all his life, JK
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:49 PM   #10
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who says this thread has no fans?!

I love this picture, I could almost post it on a wall (of course in the garage and not the living room honey, geez as if I was ever to replace that hideous painting your mother gave us - I love that oil on wood "A Grotesque Old Woman")
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:50 PM   #11
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well the tips were a bit rusty and that bothered the Greg so he stripped it to bare metal

now this is art folks

"I find this work menacing/playful because of the way the subaqueous qualities of the metal fan motifs threatens to penetrate a participation in the critical dialogue of the pebble background." not me, got that off of the The Instant Art Critique Phrase Generator - LOL
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:54 PM   #12
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and into the paint booth it went, this time for a fresh black tuxedo, which got deeper with each light coat of black
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:27 PM   #13
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man I was having a good day, you could say I was in perfect harmony with the truck today, ha ha

even after shovelin' 4 pounds of dirt out of it, one teaspoon at a time
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:29 PM   #14
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thought about going clear on her, but she was too dirty so black she went

ah don't give me that your red bucket is half full nonsense, this ol' thing has a crack in it and it leaks so this is its only purpose in life now
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:59 PM   #15
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Its a bucket weight!
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:22 PM   #16
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Nice cleaning job Gregski! If you had seen as many of those things separate as I have you would have probably got a new one:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pb...del/c10-pickup

I hope you get lucky for a while, you deserve it as hard as you work.
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:31 PM   #17
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That damper looks like it's seen better days. The Elastomer ring is swelled and there's at least one crack in the elastomer.
The Elastomer ring should look even on a good damper. Either flat or evenly rounded like an o-ring. It shouldn't be recessed below or unevenly swelled above the surface of the iron damper ring and core.

After all the work you've done it'd be a shame to break the crank because the damper ring decided to move.

You don't need an SFI approved ATI damper or Fluidamper for the smallblock you're building. Just get a good quality new 8" Iron damper. It'll last another 42 years.
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Old 03-20-2016, 07:39 PM   #18
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That damper looks like it's seen better days. The Elastomer ring is swelled and there's at least one crack in the elastomer.
The Elastomer ring should look even on a good damper. Either flat or evenly rounded like an o-ring. It shouldn't be recessed below or unevenly swelled above the surface of the iron damper ring and core.

After all the work you've done it'd be a shame to break the crank because the damper ring decided to move.

You don't need an SFI approved ATI damper or Fluidamper for the smallblock you're building. Just get a good quality new 8" Iron damper. It'll last another 42 years.
I agree looks like it has seen a lot of oil for a long time. Cheap insurance for such a major component.
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And... Harmonic Balancers make good doorstops. I've used em on a rope and pulley system as sash weights for auto-closing barn doors too.
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Harmonic balancers also make good toe bruising weapons.
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I was showing a lot of love to the top end today and word start to spread that I didn't love the short block no mo, so I gave it some attention and a much needed flush

replacing the freeze plug behind the engine mount, I already did two with the engine in the truck, but now I is using brass ones, wish I had them then
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Old 03-20-2016, 08:25 PM   #22
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my god this is so much easier with the engine out of the truck!!!

I always use a little bit of the orange gunk on these babies now, after doing my first one twice, lol

I also used 000 steel wool to gently clean up and smooth out the hole
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with the freeze plug out I first ran a couple quarts of steaming hot water through the three water round holes in the block, and then used a garden hose to run water through each of the three holes until it came out clear, it was raining today so the driveway will wash itself

gonna leave the block on its side for the night, so the orange goop dries, and maniana we will turn her over and do the other side, and that will give us 4 total brand new freeze plugs, and that will be good enuff fer me, cause these rascals are tricky wicky, a new plug don't gurantee a no leak situation, I may even cause a leak by messing with one, but in this case this one had scar tissue so I could tell he wanted to move out, so why fix it if it aint broken
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You replace all the plugs? That one was pretty bad.
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You replace all the plugs? That one was pretty bad.
gonna do the two on each side of the block, so four total, not touching the 2 in the back nor the two in the front, I plan on regretting that later
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