Let's Build A 1 Ton Crew Cab 4x4

[NastyBuzzard]

I'm pretty sure he had the non slip off drums but that could be true!! Ugh crap. How to find out? I don't have that other style hub.

[NastyBuzzard]

I couldn't swap those other style hubs on my 14 bolt could I? They aren't compatible with the non slip on style or am I wrong?

[y5mgisi]

I think they swap.

[NastyBuzzard]

I really need a set so I can find out! It's killing me!

[NastyBuzzard]

Yeah that's why I had to redo it. I hate that addition, if it didn't house my laundry room I'd tear it down!! However, when I fixed it I put down storm gaurd which removes the issues you just listed. It is amazing stuff but stupid expensive for what it is.

[NastyBuzzard]

So this might be an option to get my 14BFF brake swap to work... Dually Rotors. It is about 2" deeper than the non dually option, still drum in hat park brake.



The spindles are different between the 2 styles of 14BFFs. The newer 89+ axle has a spindle which is 6-3/4" long and the older style 88 and below has 7-1/2" long spindle.. So it is up to finding the right rotor. So we shall see.

I didn't have but a couple hours out in the shop over the weekend but I clearance my bed for the blazer tank. I have to clean it up with grinder and weld it up so it isn't weak.



Started stripping down the passenger front side of the axle. The spindle and shaft came out nice and easy. Now I need that giant allen head to get the knuckle off.





Also, my dana 60 brake swap brackets arrived!!

[y5mgisi]

All interesting stuff!

[y5mgisi]

Oh also, the knuckle will come off with that upper king pin in place. You just have to remove the bottom plate/bearing assembly deal.

[NastyBuzzard]

Originally Posted by y5mgisi

Oh also, the knuckle will come off with that upper king pin in place. You just have to remove the bottom plate/bearing assembly deal.

I can't get that dang bottom plate off! I took the bolts out but it wont come off?

[NastyBuzzard]

More parts on order... Including a $30 allen wrench... So whats the best way to go for king pins? Brass, plastic? Where to buy for the best price w/ shipping?

[y5mgisi]

The bottom plate just comes off after you take the four bolts off if I recall correctly. I think it's mad4wd that has the best deals on everything for the front. And if you're not aware those kingpins are usually a mother to get loose!

[NastyBuzzard]

So I have heard... Luckily I have torches. I bought the giant allen wrench though, its like 14" long, so hopefully that and a cheater bar will get it out...

I took the bolts out, put my chisel on it and smacked it with my mini sledge and it didn't budge one bit, I checked it over to see if I missed anything and found nothing. So maybe I wasn't beating hard enough?

[NastyBuzzard]

I got the DS kingpin out. I was surprised how easy it was, very minimal effort. I was scared to death bc of all the craziness I have seen searching the web. I just hope the PS is just as easy!



I had to clearance the bracket and knuckle a bit but I got the front bracket on finally. Test fitted the brakes too. This is a good bracket but I feel like it could have been a bit better, it is hella beefy though.









My dually rotor should arrive today so hopefully I can get it out for a test fit for the rear.

Now I need to start rebuilding the front... So new u joints are on order for the half shafts. However, I need new king pins, bearings, seals the works... $$ Gotta start search for the best deal, also brass bushings or plastic?

[Wide Open]

Looking good!
Those rotors look like they belong there.
Have you decided which wheels you are going to run?

[NastyBuzzard]

I agree, they are so huge but don't look out of place at all with that giant axle.

I can't use oem wheel studs, they were too short even stock. I upgraded to 610-303 wheel studs which are longer and still 9/16-18 thread but require the hub to be drilled with a 21/32 bit. Both the drill bit and the studs are on order to arrive by Friday.

[Wide Open]

So it's possible this would work on a dually axle then? Change out the studs and bolt the extension back on?

You chose the slip on disc because it's readily available off the shelf as opposed to a custom or kit setup right?
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[NastyBuzzard]

Right, that's how I feel anyways. Change out studs and bolt it right back on. Yes, I chose those slip on bc it is so much easier to service brakes, readily available, relatively cheap, and also because it is a way larger and better braking setup than anything you can buy aftermarket really. I mean wildwood sells a $1400 brake upgrade but its just a 13" rotor and dual piston caliper, it is slip on rotors but you have to buy replacements from them.

Downside is only if you like 15" or 16" rims. I know this setup will clear 17s but I haven't tried 16s yet.

[Wide Open]

I like it and think I'll try this myself. Once you do all the trial and error of course

No 15" wheels for me but I'm wondering if I can space the wheel out just a bit more than stock to be able to run my factory 16" wheels for winter.

[NastyBuzzard]

Sounds like a plan. It would be that much better if it could work for a dually!

[Wide Open]

I just looked at my front axle again and it seems there will be some added complication on a dually setup. The hub extension is screwed in not bolted so the extension would have to be drilled out and bolted on.
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[NastyBuzzard]

Show me some pictures?

[83GMCK2500]

It's not so much as a hub extension as the entire hub itself. What you're seeing bolted on is the rotor to the hub itself. The GMT-400 - Present duallys use an extension that bolts on over the rotor and wheel bearing.

Dana 60 DRW front hub:


My '96:

[Wide Open]

Yeah the IFS setup is different.

So maybe a slip on rotor will work?

[Wide Open]

Originally Posted by 83GMCK2500

It's not so much as a hub extension as the entire hub itself. What you're seeing bolted on is the rotor to the hub itself. The GMT-400 - Present duallys use an extension that bolts on over the rotor and wheel bearing.

Dana 60 DRW front hub:

So what do those back bolts actually do? Just bolt the rotor on and the hub/extension is what holds the wheel on?
I've had several of the 96-99 trucks and I am familiar with those but now I have a new to me 86 that I'm just learning about.

[NastyBuzzard]

I can't see it working with that setup. The rotor wouldn't clear the first part with the studs.

Only option I see is to run my setup with wheel spacers but some people don't like using spacers. Even though that's what GMT400 and up do.