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Old 09-21-2013, 08:57 PM   #1
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no problem at all.
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I can't wait to see the engine/trans in place, and here your feedback on how you like driving it with all that torque compared to the inline 6.
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yeah, me too mark. last big block i had was in a 69 chevelle ss with a th400. ive never driven a big block on a clutch, so it'l be fun and probably quita an adventure the 1st few times out. the 1st 63 i had when i was a kid was converted to the floor w/a hurst indy, so ive had time behind the floor shift before. i think power steering will not be too far off in the build. i did order pulleys with an extra groove in case i decided to add it one day. looks like the shifter will be close, but will be able to use with the bench seat. will know more on clearance during install.

according to what i see on the chevelle/camaro threads, 66-68 bbc/3sp cars were the option to a 4 speed (option m13) when talking manual trans, so im pretty much running the same specs, although a little more cam & head work and 40 over...will definitely be interesting. i feel alot more confident with the borg t16 since it was factory ordered behind mid-late 60's chevy ss muscle cars. and used in gmc trucks in 68 i believe too. i have a factory gm manual on the t-16 for dealership mechanics.
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thanks bigblock79...always glad to see more nc members on the forum.
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All of my old 3 speed conversions mounted the shifter head very close to the side cover with much shorter rods. Just in case the shifter handle does interfere with the seat, you may be able to solve the problem with the new bolt on version of the old 55-57 Chevy bench seat shifter handle. Part number 5388620:

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yeah, i saw that on their website. the hard part was finding a factory hurst install kit so i didnt have to fab one, i think if i have any issues the other shift arm will work. nice thing is it shoud be a bolt on fix, which is always nice
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Hopefully I won't have to move the shifter back as far when I put the richmond 5 speed in. I know I'll have to relocate but I don't think it will sit that far back.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:48 PM   #9
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Got the column cover taken down to metal and sprayed in some self-etching primer. Wil wrap and go in the "to be painted" box along with a bunch of other stuff.
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Heres some pics of the OEM 63 Irving seatbelt that was my junkyard find a week or two back. I do not know if its a factory truck seatbelt or a car seatbelt, just that's it dated Chevrolet 1963...and the price was right.
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Nice belts! I heard that the 66 a-arm were pre-drilled for swaybars. Gonna go look and see.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:36 PM   #12
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That would have been great if they were. Classic parts came through nicely on the sway bar mounts. Ive never had anything but good dealings with them, although a lot of people hadn't. From order to delivery was around 8-10 days. Parts arrived correct and they look great and mock up fine. I stripped the sway bar last night and will do my typical rust prevention treatments followed by some black chassis paint.

I know they 63 & 64 a arms were not predrilled as I have both of them outside.
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This is awesome! I just found out that the 66 came with pre-drilled swaybar holes on the a-arms. Here's a picture....it might give you an idea on were to drill the holes. All I have to do is mount it on the a-arms and mark my holes on the frame and I'm done!
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Hmmmm.....if I could get some measurements....that may very well help. I have a spare crossmember from a 64 that Ive considered mocking up w/the disk brake kit and just doing a crossmember swap. Would allow me to clean / paint/ prep the entire crossmember w/o taking the truck off the road as long.
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Those two holes were basically in the center of the a-arm. When I get some good weather here I'll pull the tire and get some measurements for you. Been raining here like the end of the world!
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OK, just have to go get some more grade 8 bolts for the sway bar mounts and bushings. Sway bar cleaned up, just have to paint, new bushings here, new mounts from cpp here, so pretty much just left to center, drill and install.

Moog #8792 for the bushings and CPP 6372SSB for the frame mounts
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Found out Classic Parts sells sway bars for the front and rear. 1 1/4 inch for the front and 1 1/8 for the rear..... Not bad. If you want a part number for the rear one I have a catalog handy. Hopefully I will have those measurements for you by Saturday. T.J.
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Thanks T.J., I don't use classic parts anymore. A personal choice after several bad deals with them and their in house issues. I have never had any issue with their parts, just always the bad communications between themselves and customers. I have my front sway bar parts all together now, and will work on the rear down the road. I will probably use the CPP rear sway bar.

Thanks again though.
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Thanks T.J., I don't use classic parts anymore. A personal choice after several bad deals with them and their in house issues. I have never had any issue with their parts, just always the bad communications between themselves and customers. I have my front sway bar parts all together now, and will work on the rear down the road. I will probably use the CPP rear sway bar.

Thanks again though.
Anytime, I had the same issue as you. great parts, but when I ordered a fuel tank the catalog stated the shipping cost as 10% of the price, I had no idea that there was an oversize shipping cost of $35 on top of the $150 I paid for it. All it said was *No free shipping on this item.
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My issues were a little different. I paid for a received parts, was told parts weren't paid for, even though I have receipt of the parts and verification from my bank that the funds were pulled. 2nd issue is their communications sucks.....got constant run around on a 2nd order, its in the mail, its not, it'll be enroute, its been transferred to someone else in this office....just finally ran out of patience with them. There are so many other companies I deal with on a regular basis with no issues. Brothers, Tim Tygerts (obsolete chevy truck parts), Bow Tie Bits, Truck Shop in Ca, Ecklers...I can name a few more. LMC's quality control has gone down hill, and classic parts has to many internal problems personally. I would advise anyone to look in the vendor review section and read the complaints and the cons to various companies before spending any money with a company they have never had dealings with. Im not telling others not to buy from them, just my two cents worth. A lot of people have issues with CPP. I have bought motor mount perches, a whole disk brake conversion and now sway bar mounts with no issue.
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My issues were a little different. I paid for a received parts, was told parts weren't paid for, even though I have receipt of the parts and verification from my bank that the funds were pulled. 2nd issue is their communications sucks.....got constant run around on a 2nd order, its in the mail, its not, it'll be enroute, its been transferred to someone else in this office....just finally ran out of patience with them. There are so many other companies I deal with on a regular basis with no issues. Brothers, Tim Tygerts (obsolete chevy truck parts), Bow Tie Bits, Truck Shop in Ca, Ecklers...I can name a few more. LMC's quality control has gone down hill, and classic parts has to many internal problems personally. I would advise anyone to look in the vendor review section and read the complaints and the cons to various companies before spending any money with a company they have never had dealings with. Im not telling others not to buy from them, just my two cents worth. A lot of people have issues with CPP. I have bought motor mount perches, a whole disk brake conversion and now sway bar mounts with no issue.
Thanks for the info, The best and easiest place I have bought parts from is The Truck Shop in CA, they are pretty organized. I plan to get my sway bar from Early Classic. I will be careful ordering from Classic though, it was a good thing they weren't as screwed when I ordered my tanks cause I sent them cash!
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Though I don't think I will be buying sway bars for awhile, cause in my back yard there is a deep ditch that I barrel through to get to the garden when I have a full load of dirt, with the sway bars the truck is only gonna be able to move up and down and not have the twisting ability. Meaning when the sway bar is off one tire can sit higher than the other and when it's on one will go up and the other will be force to, possibly causing something to bend or break in my case cause I load that truck to the hilt!
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Though I don't think I will be buying sway bars for awhile, cause in my back yard there is a deep ditch that I barrel through to get to the garden when I have a full load of dirt, with the sway bars the truck is only gonna be able to move up and down and not have the twisting ability. Meaning when the sway bar is off one tire can sit higher than the other and when it's on one will go up and the other will be force to, possibly causing something to bend or break in my case cause I load that truck to the hilt!
yes to no sway bars!! I'm going to pull min off my '79 because im not getting the "flex" that I want. Pulled it off a friends jeep and was amazed at how much more flex you can get.
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Good point. Unless you can hit the ditch straight...you may be better off waiting on the swaybars.
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Good point. Unless you can hit the ditch straight...you may be better off waiting on the swaybars.
Yeah, oh well, I'll just have to enjoy the back end of the truck feeling like its swaying back and forth! Well what could I expect from an old truck anyway!
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