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Re: 55-57 one piece windows
When I did the youtube mods for the windows. I made sure the old door catches would fit.
I did Tool and Die and machine work for 28 years and lot's of fabrication also. but never on a car or truck. This was not a easy job. I found some bearclaw latches that were 3/4" thick and 1-1/4" wide ( do a search for images) and you will see the one showing the measurements. So I made a bracket and tacked it on. The latch is realy close to the window channel that was in the mods. and you want to hold it out close to the back of the cover panel for the window and door lever cover ![]() I had to do some trimming just above the original door catch HOLES. I can still take this off and go back for now to the factory catches. ![]() So leaving that tacked I started work on the catch post so I had to cut most of the bracket off (see the sharpe lines ![]() cut and made a filler piece to weld in. ![]() ![]() NO TURNING BACK NOW I'm all in Welded the slots up too. where my finger is I had to shave off a goog bit to keep the bare claw latch and cover from hitting. If you look close behind the pin , the bracket had to slide behind the door post frame see the crack. ![]() The cove I made had to be a tight to the bracket and latch so it would clear when closing the door. Hopefully all this will hold up and work proper. ![]() Now I had to make all the brackets to get the outside factory door handle to work. It just barely fits behind there. I will say it again ( I would not do this again with the window and latch on the same truck) ![]() I"m waiting for my glass to get cut and see how it all works. Last edited by MD2020; 10-13-2018 at 01:07 PM. |
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nice work thanks for sharing
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I've always wondered if this type of install would work, I have the same latches just for this when I get time,, thanks for doing it first and showing how to do it!!!!
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Thanks
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Re: 55-57 one piece windows
Just glued the window felts in after two days of generally screwing around with them. Good enough for who it's for. THANKS TO ALL for your tips in this thread! (...and yes, it's an old thread, but deserves to be bumped!)
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you glued them in , instead of screwing them in? looks like they came out pretty good, where did you get you felts at?
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i like the chrome on them myself.
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The pictures show the profile and the view looking down. Thanks, lowdownstar!
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brilliant! I think Iam goin to go this route. thanks for posting bud
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For all that I got out of this thread? This was nothing. Glad to help!
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I glued a set once with Ultra Black silicone. They held as long as I owned the truck.
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I got some questions in a PM, so I'm posting answers here:
Q1: Were you able to 'curve' these up to match the profile of the door? Q2: Also, (your opinion) do you think that a plastic push pin or something would work to secure them to the doors? Q3: Is the metal bead on these chrome or stainless? A1: (See picture) Yes, I curved them by cutting them a little long, then I grabbed the unneeded tip with a good pair of needle-nosed vice grips. I then clamped a small rubber mallet in a vice and bent (pushed) them over the head of the hammer, a little at a time. Repeat about 100 times. ![]() A2: The push pin would have to be very small, and would have to grip very tightly to keep the felts from moving around. The ones I've used tend to jiggle around. I don't think it would work well, but I've been wrong before.The factory used a very small flat head sheet metal screw. The glass won't hit it if you draw it all the way in, and with the strips I chose, the felt wraps around and covers the screw head. A3: The metal bead is stainless, and you can polish it.
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This is awesome and I bet the wind noise is completely gone,, well done!
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Thanks, waybad. It'll be a while, but I'm hoping on the wind noise thing...
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I have not checked about the truck, but I have put 2 sets of New Relics power windows in my 34 and 35 chevys. they not only asked me if I had tubed the cars which I had. (removed the wood frameworks) but also if I had removed the windwing windows, which I had. They not only gave me templates for the mounting holes in the doors but gave me extended window slots and stabilizers for the longer windows.
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thanks for all the great tips!
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Has anyone used the one-piece glass from Auto City Classics? Is it the correct size? I want to use smoked glass and get all of the pieces from the same vendor so there is no variation in tint.
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My advice? Use the template in this thread and have the glass made locally. Option two, make your own template out of cardboard. Option three, use an old factory piece of glass as a template and give that to the local shop. Others, please chime in here.
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I was one of the stupid ones. I just ordered from ACC, knowing that it would be perfect. Oops...
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Re: 55-57 one piece windows
I glued two pieces of 1/8 masonite boards and cut the template with my jig saw. Then, alot of trial fitting until I was happy with the fit. I am gonna try making my template bigger to reduce gaps, etc and see if i can make the changes and still have the glass go up and down easily. More to follow....
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I asked previously about the Auto City Classic glass and if it fits properly. What I didn't mention is I purchased the one-piece glass kit from Brothers in 2001 - with all of the reading I've done in the last couple of years it appeared the Brothers glass was not cut correctly and I was resigned to eating the cost.
So out of curiosity, I put together the template and overlay-ed the Brothers glass and here is what I got. I tried to match the top and upper curves as best I could and let the rest fall where it may. There are some differences but I don't know if they are enough to cause problems or not. The biggest deviation is ~3/16" and the glass is taller and wider than the template. Thoughts? Upper Left and Upper Right Lower Left and Lower Right Last edited by BBPanel; 10-16-2019 at 03:25 PM. |
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The problem for me is the "upper left". My radius needs to be smaller and the glass needs to "grow" so that the glass will enter the channel in that corner. It looks like the template would do better than the Brothers glass.
Additionally, the upper corners are at the mercy of the side channel fit. This could restrict the rotation of the glass. Also, if the glass is too wide at the bottom (as the glass in your picture appears to be), the glass will never seat in the horizontal/top part of the channel. The height of the glass is the least of the factors, but may leave too much glass stick out when the window is rolled down.
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A question, what would happen if the top flat edge was ground down a bit until the corner radius's could be changed to match the template? it probably wouldn't take much and maybe the regulator would just push the window up a little higher. I have glass but have not tried to fit it yet.
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