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Old 09-14-2024, 10:52 AM   #301
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looks great. nice job on the assembly too. excellent attention to detail, not even a fingerprint visible.
I've always been somewhat of an organized person, but I tease my wife all the time that she has OCD, as she is so damn observant about any little thing out of place. After nearly 40 years together, I've told her that she has infected me with her OCD, except I have the automotive version which I call CDO (that's OCD in alphabetical order).

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Old 09-15-2024, 07:05 PM   #302
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For those of you that love photos. Here is a photo of the underside and the ceramic coated headers and exhaust pipes. A close eye can spot the shelf with the linear actuator that I fabricated a mounting for to the replace the foot operated parking brake.

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Old 09-16-2024, 09:42 AM   #303
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Do you have a picture or two of this bracket from other angles?

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my son's 261 powered '46 2 dr will be getting MII front this fall. The suspension parts kits are cheaper than ordering individual parts but all the reasonably prices kits we find come with power rack. PS is a nice feature anyway.

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Old 09-16-2024, 10:36 AM   #304
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Do you have a picture or two of this bracket from other angles?

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my son's 261 powered '46 2 dr will be getting MII front this fall. The suspension parts kits are cheaper than ordering individual parts but all the reasonably prices kits we find come with power rack. PS is a nice feature anyway.

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Lee,

I'll take a few photos today for you. The bracket actually was purchased from VintageAir when I bought the system for the truck. It's designed specifically for the engine, however my setup has headers instead of the stock exhaust manifold, so it didn't fit properly. The alternator at its highest adjustment still wouldn't clear the headers.

Fortunately, I have access to a CNC plasma torch (Dynatorch) so I first made a cardboard template to increase the swing arc of the alternator, then I drew it up on the Cad software and cut a test piece on 18 gauge steel, then finally on 1/4" plate steel. I then cut the old section out and welded in my new piece.

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Old 09-16-2024, 11:37 AM   #305
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Sidetrack time!
Any of you looked into eps.
Electric power steering.
Should be lots of room under the dash for one.
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Old 09-16-2024, 11:51 AM   #306
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Sidetrack time!
Any of you looked into eps.
Electric power steering.
Should be lots of room under the dash for one.
After I rebuilt the original steering box and serviced it, I realized 1) it has been 50 years since I drove a vehicle without power steering and 2) I ain't gettin any younger.

I had already purchased an Ididit steering column and a company in Florida (EPAS Performance - https://epasperformance.com/ sells an Ididit column with an electric assist power steering unit already installed. I emailed the owner and he agreed to have me ship my column to him and he retrofitted my column with their electric unit.

I was already familiar with the electric power assist units, since I had installed one from a European vendor for a 1969 Jaguar XKE that I had restored and knew that it transformed the car. I can't wait to drive the truck with this and power brakes, it should be enjoyable.

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Good deal!
I sure wish I’d had that option 40-50 years ago.
Woulda made a lot of my projects easier.
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Old 09-16-2024, 02:10 PM   #308
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My '52 has 60s vintage c10 suspension and steering. I grew up without power steering and assumed I'd never need it for the '52. Drove it last year armstrong, then swapped to a 80s suburban PS box and pump as I thought the lack of PS precluded my wife from being able to enjoy driving it.

Power steering made it a lot more enjoyable to drive for me too. Without power it was always just a bit slower than people expect you to be getting around in modern traffic and parking lots. And harder work!

EPAS would be a tight fit under dash with firewall hung pedals, at least with my C10 based setup where clutch and brake hang on opposite sides of column.
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Old 09-18-2024, 03:34 PM   #309
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Almost ready to turn the key and see what happens. Just a few more wires to connect and all fluids to input (coolant, engine, transmission, and differential)

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Old 09-22-2024, 04:11 PM   #310
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New photos of finished install and a link to a video of the very first crank of the newly rebuilt engine.

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Old 09-22-2024, 04:22 PM   #311
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sounds awesome! you must be pumped
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sounds awesome! you must be pumped
You have no idea, after waiting for five months to get my engine back, I was amazed that it started on the first turn of the key!

I have a few niggling issues to deal with surrounding the electric fan, the electric e-brake, and an annoying drip/leak on the brake boost pump. I will work quickly to get them all resolved and then run the truck around the neighborhood without bolting the fender back on a few times, just to make sure I won't have to take them off again.

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Old 10-09-2024, 07:53 PM   #313
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I haven't posted anything since the video of the engine kicking over for the first time due to what happened the very next day. I went out to diagnose my thermostatically controlled electric fan not coming on during that first start-up, only to find that I could not get the engine started.

I mistakenly attempted to start the car without turning the electric fuel pump on, the engine ran for a few seconds, but then abruptly stopped. No amount of encouraging, troubleshooting, or swearing could get it started. After hours of trying everything I knew to do, I started testing for good ground to the engine and determined that both the body of my Vertex magneto was grounded (as it should be) but so was the grounding terminal, even when the grounding switch and grounding wire was disconnected.

As a result, I had to pull the magneto and send it out to Joe Hunt Magnetos in California to have it diagnosed and repaired. I have my fingers crossed that this solves the start-up problem. I should have it back by the end of next week (I hope).
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Look on the bright side, no towing bill was involved in diagnosing the faulty magneto.

Stay strong, your getting there!
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Today, I eliminated the "kill/ground switch" that I had wired in to ground out the magneto and instead used something that Joe Hunt Magneto sells, although I sourced the same component myself locally. I wired in a relay to my ignition circuit, when the ignition key is turned on the relay is open and stops grounding the magneto, as soon as the power is turned off, the relay closes and grounds the magneto, thus turning it off. This way, the key switch activates both the starter and the magneto, instead of it being a two step process.

Now I'm considering eliminating the switch I wired on the dash to shut off the fuel pump and instead replacing it with an inertial safety switch that I bought a few months back. The inertial switch is triggered in a accident and turns the fuel pump off. It has a larger red reset button, in case it accidentally activates.

After accidentally attempting to start the engine without turning the fuel pump on, I have been re-thinking the logic of having a push/pull switch on the dash for a fuel pump shut-off.
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Old 10-09-2024, 11:50 PM   #316
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Having to flick multiple switches to start is very cool, 'race car'. I'd preserve all the switches, but make it so when the key was off everything was off. So you could leave the individual switches on and turn the truck on or off with the key.

And by all means add the inertial switch as well. Or, perhaps better, a timed relay to provide fuel pump power for starting with a oil pressure driven switch that takes over once the motor starts
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Heard back from Joe Hunt Magnetos today. Apparently, they had to replace the condenser to get the magneto to work properly. The repaired mag is now in the hands of UPS on its way back to me. I'm more that a little bit anxious to get it back in the truck and fire up that engine again.
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nice it was an easy fix. now the waiting game. maybe clean up your garage while you wait (joking of course. it's already spotless)
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nice it was an easy fix. now the waiting game. maybe clean up your garage while you wait (joking of course. it's already spotless)
Yeah, the shop is generally clean, my OCD spouse has rubbed off on me. Although, I'm going to see a 1940 Chevy Business Coupe on Monday for a potential "next" project, to the dismay of my wife. It will require a bit of body work, so the shop floor won't always be clean if I decide to bite off that project.
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that series is one of my favorite old coupe styles. post up pics for SURE.
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that series is one of my favorite old coupe styles. post up pics for SURE.
Me too, I love this old style car. I'll post some pics but, I fear they will be rather unimpressive. This car is definitely a project. The fellow I'm meeting with is an older friend through my Corvette club. He's owned this car for a long time and drove it regularly until he decided to start a renovation.

The front clip is off, there are multiple boxes of new parts - gauges, carb, wiring harness, body panels, wheels, tires, etc. He has partially installed a new shaved firewall and it needs the rear section of the lower body panel replaced. The interior is mostly removed.

Now for the better news, it has a 1971 Chevy Camaro front frame with steering rack, engine mounts and a 350 c.i. V8, with a Trans Am rear diff.

I'm good with all the mechanical and electrical work, but have some pause on the body work. The visit is to determine if the amount of work is in my wheelhouse. Also we have not discussed price yet either......
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Me too, I love this old style car. I'll post some pics but, I fear they will be rather unimpressive. This car is definitely a project. The fellow I'm meeting with is an older friend through my Corvette club. He's owned this car for a long time and drove it regularly until he decided to start a renovation.

The front clip is off, there are multiple boxes of new parts - gauges, carb, wiring harness, body panels, wheels, tires, etc. He has partially installed a new shaved firewall and it needs the rear section of the lower body panel replaced. The interior is mostly removed.

Now for the better news, it has a 1971 Chevy Camaro front frame with steering rack, engine mounts and a 350 c.i. V8, with a Trans Am rear diff.

I'm good with all the mechanical and electrical work, but have some pause on the body work. The visit is to determine if the amount of work is in my wheelhouse. Also we have not discussed price yet either......
Unfortunately, the visit to the 1940 Chevy didn't work out as I had hoped. The current owner is a friend who put the car up on jack stands 15 years ago to work on it and never got around to it. The owner before him apparently only owned one tool, an acetylene cutting torch. Ever opening on the car had a jagged sawtooth cut to it from the torch. Most every body panel needs to be patched or replaced. The bottom of both A-pillars are rusted out, pass side B pillr needs replaced. Most of the interior floor pans needs cut out and replaced. The fuel tank was moved from inside to the trunk, but is siting on the trunk floor. The owner is a very nice guy, but this car needs far more work than work than I'm capable of.
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too bad, it would be great to see the start to finish pics and the journey. i would love to find one of those, even in the shape you are saying this unit is in, as they are one of my faves. years ago a fella wanted to trade me my corvair powered rail buggy for his 37 chevy businessman's coupe, which was freshly painted by the owner who was a body man goint through trade school for autobody. my new wife said no. well, that hatchet was buried but the handle has been sticking out for many years. haha. I still remind her of that old coupe and it's been 40 years of married bliss this october.
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too bad, it would be great to see the start to finish pics and the journey. i would love to find one of those, even in the shape you are saying this unit is in, as they are one of my faves. years ago a fella wanted to trade me my corvair powered rail buggy for his 37 chevy businessman's coupe, which was freshly painted by the owner who was a body man goint through trade school for autobody. my new wife said no. well, that hatchet was buried but the handle has been sticking out for many years. haha. I still remind her of that old coupe and it's been 40 years of married bliss this october.
I might have been able to get my head around all the body panel work, but I'm a relative novice welder and while I can weld, I've not done this much on any one vehicle. For sure with this car, I'd be a pro welder by the end of the project, but would advise you to invest in a company that makes angle grinder disks due to the number of them I would need.

The real issue I have with the car is this. The bozo with the acetylene torch cut the frame clip off a 1971 Camaro and welded it to the frame of the 1940 Coupe. The welding that was done is downright ugly. Where the cab A-pillar should be resting on the frame, he booger welded a short section of square tubing to the frame to support the cab, with a hunk of wood in between.

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A friend who used to own a business restoring high end classic cars has suggested that given the cutting skill of the former owner, his measuring and welding skills are likely of the same caliper. This will result in never being able to get the front end aligned.

I am still torn over walking away from this project.
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there are quite a few builders using the S10 frame under their old coupes. maybe something like that could work.
it probably wouldn't matter what new project you take on, if it's old you likely will need some welding and panel work. lol.
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