1967 C10 Urban Retro

[Orangetonicclicc]

Spent most of the day trying to get the shop clean and organized! Spent years converting it to a boxing gym so I guess it may take a little longer than I thought switching it back! But in between that I took off all my preexisting brake and fuel lines. I think I maybe able to use them as a pattern to bend my new fuel lines. My brake lines from POL will be here Monday! I also put all the components and hardware needed for my steering column.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Extremely disappointed in the Performance Online (POL) pre-bent brake line kit. I had several conversation with the salesman Kraig Herrera. I asked several questions pertaining to what all came with the kit in the way of fittings. If there were any thing that I may have to buy to complete the installation. He insured me with the purchase of my previous disc brake kit. That all components would be there. Unfortunately as soon as I received my package I noticed that one line was labeled manual drum and my set up is full disc power. I got the run around all day and then was just told "it will work with no technical explanation. No T-fittings and no install instructions. I will be sending this kit back tomorrow! It amazes me how respectful these guys are until they get your money and then you are left on hold all day and never reply to your emails. Well this is the world we live in! Smh... Very discourage lately. Sometimes I just want to sell this thing and be done with it!

[sduckworth13]

Originally Posted by Orangetonicclicc

Extremely disappointed in the Performance Online (POL) pre-bent brake line kit. I had several conversation with the salesman Kraig Herrera. I asked several questions pertaining to what all came with the kit in the way of fittings. If there were any thing that I may have to buy to complete the installation. He insured me with the purchase of my previous disc brake kit. That all components would be there. Unfortunately as soon as I received my package I noticed that one line was labeled manual drum and my set up is full disc power. I got the run around all day and then was just told "it will work with no technical explanation. No T-fittings and no install instructions. I will be sending this kit back tomorrow! It amazes me how respectful these guys are until they get your money and then you are left on hold all day and never reply to your emails. Well this is the world we live in! Smh... Very discourage lately. Sometimes I just want to sell this thing and be done with it!

We are all rooting for you to get this bad boy done your doing a awesome job! You might just want to take some pressure off and scratch your deadline because it will surely give you anxiety. Ask me how I know that's why I sold my project for something I can drive and work on.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Originally Posted by sduckworth13

We are all rooting for you to get this bad boy done your doing a awesome job! You might just want to take some pressure off and scratch your deadline because it will surely give you anxiety. Ask me how I know that's why I sold my project for something I can drive and work on.

I really don't care about the deadline Scott, I been working on this thing for going on 9 years. It's more frustration on the part of me. I sometimes feel stupid because of my lack of knowledge and experience in this stuff. Then on top of that! The blatant disrespect of ones time and money by these individuals. But as I go through the threads, I see that it's just not me. Which is very disheartening from the stand point of someone as green as I am, who just wants to do it the right way! Willing to pay the extra for what I want and need but always getting the shaft. It's going to be a long and expensive winter! I can tell! ��

[Orangetonicclicc]

Come to find out, POL is just the vendor for Fineline Tubing. I got in touch with a tech guy. Evidently majority of my lines go to the prop valve. He emailed me this generic install sheet. It actually help out a lot til I got to the (To Right Front Brake 3/8-24 Thread) line. All the other matched and were bent really good.

[Orangetonicclicc]

As I said all the lines match up pretty well to the bends with the frame coming off the prop valve. I have to call Rick from Finelines tomorrow about this other tube? That's suppose to go in the right front brake line??

[Orangetonicclicc]

As you can see from underneath the bends are really good. It's just where it gets hairy for me? I'm guessing I need some T-fittings, I have stainless flex line coming off the caliper but I just don't see how they will reach? My other question is about the rear. I assumed it would have it own line going from one rotor to the other but I have no more remaining lines after I get the shipping bend out the front to rear and buy all my fittings I guess I can have a better grasp on this. I'm learning that disc/disc are a little different than disc to drums because of the prop valve. (Sigh)

[Orangetonicclicc]

I also have to buy a new rear flex hose... It seems like each line had it's own line designated to the prop valve. Not sure but I will find out tomorrow for sure after I get this Right front brake line understood.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Disc/Disc Brake conversion 101... Now it's starting to click!

[Orangetonicclicc]

Looks like I may have to do something like this, with the hose clamps!

[Pick]

Originally Posted by Orangetonicclicc

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Looks like I may have to do something like this, with the hose clamps!

I did it that way with mine. I considered welding the tabs on the axle tube but figured stainless clamps would be enough.

[Xeen]

Ok so here's the run down on the disc/disc set up for the 1967.
The T for the back is permanently crimped to the flexible hose which is mounted to the rear suspension crossmember at one end and to the axle at the other.
For the front T the hard line runs directly into it from the prop valve then it splits off to hard lines that go to a flex hose for each front caliper.
The diagram you posted is inaccurate for this application, for both the front/rear the prop valve feeds into a T then splits off to each individual wheel.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Originally Posted by Xeen

Ok so here's the run down on the disc/disc set up for the 1967.
The T for the back is permanently crimped to the flexible hose which is mounted to the rear suspension crossmember at one end and to the axle at the other.
For the front T the hard line runs directly into it from the prop valve then it splits off to hard lines that go to a flex hose for each front caliper.
The diagram you posted is inaccurate for this application, for both the front/rear the prop valve feeds into a T then splits off to each individual wheel.

Thanks Brian,

I spoke to the tech again and I guess that kit don't come with the rear axel hard lines. Which left me completely confused, I bought the remaining lines. The T-fitting and flex hose in question in the rear that you are referring to is gone and needs replacing, I'm hoping that I can just buy one of those from a local part store with the fittings. Once again! Thanks again!

[Orangetonicclicc]

I guess my biggest dilemma was a lack of parts. When I purchased this kit. I specially asked if there were any additional parts that I may need to complete this installation (i.e. Fittings, connections, lines, etc etc...) I told him, I have no problem buying the rest I just need to know. Now I realize that everything I asked him, if I would need, and he said no, comes to find out, I need? As I go through the forum, I notice that this seems to be the biggest headache of many of the members! THE DREADED BRAKELINES!! Well I'm going to pull them off and take them to a hose store that specialize in fittings to complete this application. My caliper hose fitting are not matching my hard line fittings nor will they fit through my hose locks and clamps. This wouldn't bother me as much if I bought all this from different places but it ALL came from the same vendor?

[Orangetonicclicc]

I was a little hesitant about straightening the shipping bend out of the front to rear brake line, thinking I may have to send this back. But after getting the lines from the prop valve some what figured out. I decided to bite the bullet and install it. It's actually mocked up terrific! Unfortunately I ordered a 1972 rear end brake flex hose from a local part store. Good thing Brian (Xeen) one of the members who's actually had to hold my hand thru this build lately caught it and told me. Sooo... I just have to get the right one! I tried to order a 1967 but it didn't even show up on O'Reily's part search. So I just said 72? You really gotta know these old school trucks!

[Xeen]

When you are talking to a salesman chances are you aren't talking to a guy who has actually built one of these so they aren't going to know what you need to complete the installation, like brake hoses, line Unions and Tee connectors etc. which is why I always ask someone who knows before I order parts if I am unsure about what all I need.
I was looking up the part numbers for the brake line kits and there are two different part numbers for STD and PWR brakes I wonder which one you ordered.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Went to Tulsa Brake and Clutch to get unions to complete this application. After calling Orielly and they didn't have the rear brake line in stock. I got the lengths and fittings I need and went back in TB&C and had one made in like 3 minutes. I asked him to make it a little longer just in case. On my lucnch break, I drilled my caliper lock clamps out for them to fit through.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Decided to do some inventory on my parts! Stocking up for the winter for a summer finale!

[Orangetonicclicc]

Only a few more things remaining to buy. Things like my AC Unit, get my. Drive Shaft cut and balanced after installing the tranny, I have a few more suspension items like relocating my shocks and a front sway bar and a pan arm bar. Plus I still need to get my stainless fuel lines bent.

[Orangetonicclicc]

My plan is to have everything electrical from my remote lock and alarm to my stereo system, down to every plug to my lights, so when I drop it off to be wired. All electrical components will be done! I also need to get my exhaust too! This may be one of the best summers in a looooongg time!

[sduckworth13]

Nice work on everything, especially the rear brakes. Everything looks very clean and professional done.

[Orangetonicclicc]

Originally Posted by sduckworth13

Nice work on everything, especially the rear brakes. Everything looks very clean and professional done.

Scott,

Those aren't my rear brakes. I'm waiting on my rear stainless hard lines and I intend to do them like those... Thanks! I'm really trying to do it right and get it done. Had a few bumps in the road lately, that's really discouraged me. But hopefully I can continue to moved forward soon!

[Orangetonicclicc]

Finally got my rear stainless brake lines in... Mock fit to check bends! Not

[Orangetonicclicc]

Closer look at the caliper hose to hard line mock up.... A little adjusting and clamp fab work will be needed but I think it will look good when it's all done...

[Orangetonicclicc]

Thanks to Dan from 67c10Rustbuket for making me a template to re drill my pre-existing holes back out! Great job! It's perfect! Even from the size of the holes!