Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build

[duallyjams]

Your pretty good at finding needles in a hay stack so a nos lens should be a piece of cake oh yeah this speedo gets my vote.

[cAlvis165]

I'm subscribing to follow the rest of this one. I can't wait to see that engine come together. You're doing a great job with all the details.

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by duallyjams

Your pretty good at finding needles in a hay stack so a nos lens should be a piece of cake oh yeah this speedo gets my vote.

Well, it helps when the needles are actually out there! I wouldn't even know where to start looking for one of those.

Originally Posted by cAlvis165

I'm subscribing to follow the rest of this one. I can't wait to see that engine come together. You're doing a great job with all the details.

Thanks!
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[padresag]

no matter what eng you put in there
the definition of acceleration


The Definition of Acceleration

Read this through slowly and try to comprehend the amount of force produced in just over 4 seconds!

There are no rockets or airplanes built by any government in the world that can accelerate from a standing start as fast as a Top Fuel Dragster or Funny Car!



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DEFINITION OF ACCELERATION:



One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch (approx 8.3 litres) engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

It takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 8,000+ horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture of nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F.

Nitro methane burns yellow... The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 deg F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light ! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimate $1:000:00 per second.

The current top fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06, Tony Schumacher, at Pomona , CA ). The top speed record is 336.15 mph as measured over the last 66' of the run (05/25/05 Tony Schumacher, at Hebron , OH ).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06.. Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

....... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!!

ron

[Narxoleptic Customs]

Hubba hubba hubba!!
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[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by padresag

no matter what eng you put in there

The Definition of Acceleration...
ron

I don't need you giving me anymore idea's about going fast!

Originally Posted by Narxoleptic Customs

Hubba hubba hubba!!
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Well, I'm pretty sure I've settled in on the 160 mph speedo. Much more simple and not as crowded/busy.

[padresag]

would you feel secure in one of these at 160.I have had my old 4 x 4 panel up around 85 and felt that was enough and that was with a 4 cyl and it was just starting to hum' I did have a 911T when I was younger and had it reading at 150 mph and felt it was pretty quick
these vehicles of ours are like a square brick in the wind though. I can remember coming into Vancouver on the freeway in my panel fighting a good h/wind and had trouble going over 50mph
ron

[Low Elco]

Great project! You 60-66 guys arent afraid to charge in there!

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by padresag

would you feel secure in one of these at 160.I have had my old 4 x 4 panel up around 85 and felt that was enough and that was with a 4 cyl and it was just starting to hum' I did have a 911T when I was younger and had it reading at 150 mph and felt it was pretty quick
these vehicles of ours are like a square brick in the wind though. I can remember coming into Vancouver on the freeway in my panel fighting a good h/wind and had trouble going over 50mph
ron

With the planned frame/suspension modifications it should be very stable well above 100 mph.

Originally Posted by Low Elco

Great project! You 60-66 guys arent afraid to charge in there!

Thanks!


As far as updates go, the VW engine is back in- just gotta hook everything back up, so that'll be out of the way within the next week or so. I got the steering column cover back from a friend last week, so I have all the pieces to go ahead and rebuild/detail the column and paint the wheel, turn signal housing, and shifter bell. I'll probably do this next. I haven't checked with the gauge guy in a few weeks, so no update on the speedo/tach for now. I haven't been able to find an LS2 block locally, so I'm not able to mock up the engine/trans yet either. I feel like a slacker for not making any progress this summer!

I have been working on replicating the textured '66 only dashboard paint. This was using SEM Texture Coating in a rattle can, and swapping the spray nozzle for a regular paint can tip for a finer mist. I backed off the panel about 2 feet so that it would dry spray and not flow out. It's a little to coarse/rough but fairly close, and I think buying it by the quart and spraying it at higher pressure through my Sata will produce the results I'm looking for. The green is just some rattle can paint over the SEM to see how well paint covers without distorting the texture. I'd say the factory texture matches 150-180 grit sandpaper pretty closely, and the rattle can SEM is around the texture of 80-120 grit. I'm hoping that thinning it and spraying through my paint gun should get it dead on the original paint texture!

[65Pickup]

Another cool tip, I also didn't know the '66 had a textured dash.

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by 65Pickup

Another cool tip, I also didn't know the '66 had a textured dash.

Yep, here's a couple shots of the glovebox door and heater controls. It's about the same texture as 180-220 grit sandpaper.






I was at a local scrap dealer yesterday and picked up a floor shift lever from an early 50's Chevy 3100. I'll weld on a tab to mount it to the T56 and get an original shift knob engraved with the 6 speed pattern. It's solid forged instead of a hollow tube, so it should hold up to any abuse it "might" encounter.







If I can find one, I'll sand the 4/5 speed shift pattern off an original shift knob and have the six speed pattern engraved, filled with white paint, then clear coat it. I don't know anyone that does precision engraving though.

[litew8]

Originally Posted by chevyrestoguy

I really like the idea of a LS engine. Those things make great power, don't leak, and get great mileage when coupled with the right components.

Personally, I know nothing of LS engines. Someone once mentioned to me that they do tend to leak.

[68GMCCustom]

Got that backwards I think.....LSx motors do NOT leak....like a sbc.
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[MalibuKasey]

With your eye and level of detail I think you could engrave the shifter knob with a dremel.
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[65Gregg]

If I can find one, I'll sand the 4/5 speed shift pattern off an original shift knob and have the six speed pattern engraved, filled with white paint, then clear coat it. I don't know anyone that does precision engraving though.

I don't know for sure but you might check with a bowling ball retailer, they engrave names on balls.
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[clemdaddy]

i like the texture on your dash... i did mine by backing off about a foot with real low air pressure. kept misting color on color till the buildup covered good. i still had to matte clearcoat after the paint dried because to me it felt a bit rough. how did you do yours?

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by litew8

Personally, I know nothing of LS engines. Someone once mentioned to me that they do tend to leak.

Originally Posted by 68GMCCustom

Got that backwards I think.....LSx motors do NOT leak....like a sbc.
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Right, my sister has a Trailblazer SS with an LS2 and it hasn't leaked a drop.

Originally Posted by MalibuKasey

With your eye and level of detail I think you could engrave the shifter knob with a dremel.
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It would end up being a mess if I tried that lol. I've tried pinstriping before... I won't tell you how badly that went!

Originally Posted by 65Gregg

If I can find one, I'll sand the 4/5 speed shift pattern off an original shift knob and have the six speed pattern engraved, filled with white paint, then clear coat it. I don't know anyone that does precision engraving though.

I don't know for sure but you might check with a bowling ball retailer, they engrave names on balls.
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That's a great idea, and there's a couple local bowling centers that I could check with. Thanks!

Originally Posted by clemdaddy

i like the texture on your dash... i did mine by backing off about a foot with real low air pressure. kept misting color on color till the buildup covered good. i still had to matte clearcoat after the paint dried because to me it felt a bit rough. how did you do yours?

I've only done the test panel so far using SEM Texture Coating. The other pics are the original paint. I may try your method since the SEM is a little too coarse.

[Gokart Mozart]

Originally Posted by theastronaut

If I can find one, I'll sand the 4/5 speed shift pattern off an original shift knob and have the six speed pattern engraved, filled with white paint, then clear coat it. I don't know anyone that does precision engraving though.

http://www.americanshifter.com/produ...d-Shift-Knobs/

http://www.epcoshiftknobs.com/engraved.html

but $

[litew8]

I never mentioned sbc or compared the two. Like I said, it's what I've heard.

Originally Posted by 68GMCCustom

Got that backwards I think.....LSx motors do NOT leak....like a sbc.
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[MalibuKasey]

Shoot!! There ya go! $33... heck thats worth it!

[jdoisher]

I see you're on thesamba too!!
Jason

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart

http://www.americanshifter.com/produ...d-Shift-Knobs/

http://www.epcoshiftknobs.com/engraved.html

but $

I'd easily be willing to pay that if they had the raised edge around the center like the original knobs!

Originally Posted by MalibuKasey

Shoot!! There ya go! $33... heck thats worth it!

Those are nice, but just not "correct". Kinda funny using the "correct" word on a custom, but that's the style I'm shooting for.

Originally Posted by jdoisher

I see you're on thesamba too!!
Jason

Yep! I'm convinced that there's enough VW guys on here to start our own forum section. What kinda VW you got?

Couple pics of my OG paint '64.

[jdoisher]

A few.




Its on a vw pan!

a 62 rag top (its some were on the samba)
a 02 Jetta TDI (the car I love the most!)
and I had a few along the way!! lol
Jason

[theastronaut]

Originally Posted by jdoisher

Its on a vw pan!
Jason

Sweet! How's the two door conversion going on the Renault? Been watching it on thesamba, very nice fab work on the frame and body!!

[jdoisher]

The renault, rag top, nova, and my bus are sitting in a warehouse, I haven't worked on any of them in the last few months! I'm moving to a new house with a shop (that needs a little work) but it will be the first time I will have all my cars in one place to work on!! Finish Maggie's truck (so she can drive it) get the Nova done, than back to the Dauphine!
I love your work!! Incredible is the only word to describe it.
Jason