Bride of Young Frankenstein - 1957 Buick Super

[drewskiren]

Still making progress. On the Jag mount, bolts ran through and clamped it to the "frame rail". Here I will have longer bolts and run them through the mount, then a frame rail, then the other side of the mount and then another frame rail. It's complicated to explain, but easy for me to "see". Give me a week or two and everyone will see.

I have spent a ton of time centering, setting the height, locating fore and aft, and leveling the pinion. I've finally got it exactly where it should be. Looks like it will work very well, however - I will have to modify the floor at the rear seat about 2 inches, but it is in an area of dead space - unnoticeable on the inside of the car. Just more work for me! Yay.

[oldman3]

Drew, based on your last pic, it's easy to understand what you will be doing...Jim

[knomadd]

[JJorgensen52]

Is there a bushing, or some kind of metal sleeve, which will go in there to locate the mount? I understand your plan of attack, just curious what's going to bear that crosswise loading.

[drewskiren]

Originally Posted by JJorgensen52

Is there a bushing, or some kind of metal sleeve, which will go in there to locate the mount? I understand your plan of attack, just curious what's going to bear that crosswise loading.

Metal sleeve is my plan, but I am at a loss as to where to get them, I can cut them to length, just need the dang thing. I went to Active Bolt today to get my longer bolts but they had no sleeves. They've been around since 1959. Any ideas?

[jbclassix]

What size bolts? What about DOM tubing? Say you have 3/8" fasteners... you could get 11/16" O.D. DOM tubing with a 1/4" wall and that would give you a 7/16" I.D.

[drewskiren]

Originally Posted by jbclassix

What size bolts? What about DOM tubing? Say you have 3/8" fasteners... you could get 11/16" O.D. DOM tubing with a 1/4" wall and that would give you a 7/16" I.D.

Something like Diiiissss?

(said like Meg Ryan in the movie French Kiss when she flashes the diamond necklace around her neck)

[JJorgensen52]

Originally Posted by drewskiren

Metal sleeve is my plan, but I am at a loss as to where to get them, I can cut them to length, just need the dang thing. I went to Active Bolt today to get my longer bolts but they had no sleeves. They've been around since 1959. Any ideas?

I usually use McMaster-Carr for this sort of thing - have a look at this section of the catalog here - it shows what they have for structural tube stock. There's a pretty good selection of ID's available in 0.188" wall and some in 0.25" wall under the "Easy to weld 4130 Alloy steel" section

Not affiliated, of course, but they are super handy

[jbclassix]

Yep

[drewskiren]

Originally Posted by JJorgensen52

I usually use McMaster-Carr for this sort of thing - have a look at this section of the catalog here - it shows what they have for structural tube stock. There's a pretty good selection of ID's available in 0.188" wall and some in 0.25" wall under the "Easy to weld 4130 Alloy steel" section

Not affiliated, of course, but they are super handy

Oh man, that is perfect, thanks so much for the heads up.

[drewskiren]

Look Ma, no hands!!!

It's only just barely held in place with 6 bolts and only the new outer rails. I have a lot more to do here, a lot!

Last picture is not black spray paint on the ground but instead metal shavings! See where the tire was sitting for the last week?

[drewskiren]

Saturday Night Picture time!

Biz and I spent a good part of the day building a set for a high school play with some of the parents, ho hum.

Then the fun started, designing and building the inner frame rails.

The 2x4 is helping me check the height/level of the rails before I weld the inner ones on.

[drewskiren]

Yeah, I finished them both.....

You can see the front and rear mounting notches that I will fabricate a flat mounting surface to and then box that out so I can clamp it tight like the factory designed it.

Its coming along!

[Advanced Design]

Looks good Drew. I think I am starting to understand how the cage will be clamped.

[drewskiren]

As I am working on my rear suspension mounts, I keep going back to "if thats the way the factory did it, it must be important" I had at first thought I would not have room for mounting "pads" for the brackets to nestle in to like Jag had done it, deciding instead to just let the bolts take the forces. I've reworked my design to go back to mounting pads AND bolts and I'm much happier about it.

I made the pads from qtr inch stock and after many test fittings and reworking, I was ready to weld. I simply laid the pads on the mounts so they would seat perfectly and then welded the pads to my frame rails where they were. I didn't want to be tugging or twisting the mounts to get them to conform where I thought they should go - easy to do since they are rubber.

I know, I know, all day and I only got 4 small pieces of metal tacked in...I'll work harder next time.

[ricott]

I love this build. Thanks for taking the time to document all the steps to make this work. If I live long enough, I would love to use the same suspension setup under a 55 2 door Caddie Hardtop - it would make an awesome cruiser.
Ricky

[oldman3]

When working on something as important as this, time isn't a factor, correct outcome is, I feel you are on track....Jim

[drewskiren]

Sorry I've gone dark, but I've been engineering a Sportclips 3 store purchase which is quite involved. Long story short: I now own them and am in the process of transferring everything into my name, employee changes!, and general upgrading. I'll try to carve out some time for The Bride soon.

[flashed]

Never heard of these stores ,tell us a little about them if you want to ,good luck.

[drewskiren]

SportClips is a haircut franchise for men or boys with a sports themed atmosphere, playing ESPN on big screen TVs throughout the store.

www.sportclips.com

[BC Toy chest]

Hey Drew how about that i am posting photos now of my friends'57 with a complete jag rear end in his truck. You are the only other person I have seen use the cage without using the kit. My friend Donnie felt it was cheaper and easier to go this route. GR8 minds think a like I guess, hahaha. GR8 work. The red arrows in one photo just indicate a temporary jig set up. I'm gona post more up date pics on my page now.

[Russell Ashley]

Hoping for some updates on this one soon. Love this build.

[flashed]

Me too ,where is Drew .

[deejaaa1]

Originally Posted by flashed

Me too ,where is Drew .

busy with his new acquisitions.
subscribed, because i see the level of craftsmanship going into this one as i did with his last one.

[drewskiren]

Originally Posted by Russell Ashley

Hoping for some updates on this one soon. Love this build.

Originally Posted by flashed

Me too ,where is Drew .

Originally Posted by deejaaa1

busy with his new acquisitions.
subscribed, because i see the level of craftsmanship going into this one as i did with his last one.

Sorry guys, earlier I have been wrastlin my 3 new Sportclips franchises. Getting them where they need to be staff and quality wise. This week we have been doing Service Over Self inner city mission work with the youth group - repairing houses in the poorer parts of our city (roofing in 95+ degree heat!) I'll probably be doing a little business catch up next week, but may be able to regroup and figure out where I was on the missus.