She's a ton of fun (dually build on air)

[Rusbuilt]

I do know the dm has a narrowed track width so that will help and if I do run semi wheels they will have a huge offset. I may be ok with a factory length arm.

[502ms]

Oh - gotcha. Well, in either case, you will be banging gears....funday funday!

[Rusbuilt]

lol yes sir.

[502ms]

I could be mistaken, but I think the 3500 has the granny first gear as well (I think they are both 5.34 or something crazy like that)

[Rusbuilt]

I'm not 100% on the granny gear thing thats just what I was told. Once I have my suspension down I'll really start to look into it.

[MattSt]

GM Specs:

NV3500 gears:

1___2___3____4___5___R
3.49 2.16 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55

NV 4500 gears:
1______________________2____3___4___5___R
6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on) 3.44 1.71 1.00 0.73 6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on)

Towing with a NV3500 is going to be hard on the clutch if you are decently heavy. I have an NV4500 going into my 1970 GMC. I plan to tow with it so I wanted the deeper first gear to get 20k worth of steel rolling off the light. Ideally a NV5600 is what I wanted because it has better gear splits and I have towed with one a lot and love this trans. 1st 5.63 2nd 3.38 3rd 2.04 4th 1.39 5th 1.00 6th 0.73 R 5.63 But they are super spendy. Still better than an SM465. IMO

Project is looking good!

[RatRod68]

Originally Posted by MattSt

GM Specs:

NV3500 gears:

1___2___3____4___5___R
3.49 2.16 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55

NV 4500 gears:
1______________________2____3___4___5___R
6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on) 3.44 1.71 1.00 0.73 6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on)

Towing with a NV3500 is going to be hard on the clutch if you are decently heavy. I have an NV4500 going into my 1970 GMC. I plan to tow with it so I wanted the deeper first gear to get 20k worth of steel rolling off the light. Ideally a NV5600 is what I wanted because it has better gear splits and I have towed with one a lot and love this trans. 1st 5.63 2nd 3.38 3rd 2.04 4th 1.39 5th 1.00 6th 0.73 R 5.63 But they are super spendy. Still better than an SM465. IMO

Project is looking good!

Awesome info. I know hauling with a 465 is hell. Going up hills you might as well forget going anything over 30mph. You may hit 40 depending on your rear end gears.

[shearjs]

My '03 GMC has a NV3500 from the factory. I've read its good in its stock form for about 300-350 hp. I'm not sure what you have in store under the hood, but something to keep in mind.

[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by MattSt

GM Specs:

NV3500 gears:

1___2___3____4___5___R
3.49 2.16 1.40 1.00 0.73 3.55

NV 4500 gears:
1______________________2____3___4___5___R
6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on) 3.44 1.71 1.00 0.73 6.34 (1993) 5.61 (1994 on)

Towing with a NV3500 is going to be hard on the clutch if you are decently heavy. I have an NV4500 going into my 1970 GMC. I plan to tow with it so I wanted the deeper first gear to get 20k worth of steel rolling off the light. Ideally a NV5600 is what I wanted because it has better gear splits and I have towed with one a lot and love this trans. 1st 5.63 2nd 3.38 3rd 2.04 4th 1.39 5th 1.00 6th 0.73 R 5.63 But they are super spendy. Still better than an SM465. IMO

Project is looking good!

Thank you for the info and the complement!

Originally Posted by shearjs

My '03 GMC has a NV3500 from the factory. I've read its good in its stock form for about 300-350 hp. I'm not sure what you have in store under the hood, but something to keep in mind.

Yeah that's plenty for me, I'm keeping the 292!
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[cubber]

292!292!292!

[Rusbuilt]

UPDATE!!

I talked to the Porterbuilt fellas today and the plan is to run 1 ton spindles with the stock length arms. After the added length of the 10 lug adapter minus the monster offset of my 22" semi wheels, they should then squeeze up inside the fenders!!


I bought 4 of them today!! Hoot Hoot!

[jkeating1]

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

I bought 4 of them today!! Hoot Hoot!

Ok---so it's been several days since you flashed those semi wheels in my face! I gotta have some now. What do you watch for--any 22" alloy semi wheel? Are there different mass 22's? Is there a good semi parts for sale forum? And how much should I have to pay for 4?
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[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by jkeating1

Ok---so it's been several days since you flashed those semi wheels in my face! I gotta have some now. What do you watch for--any 22" alloy semi wheel? Are there different mass 22's? Is there a good semi parts for sale forum? And how much should I have to pay for 4?
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In my research I have discovered the best wheels to find are the 10 hole Alcoa wheels. They do come in different widths the ones I bought are 8.5" wide. I really wanted to find some that are 7.5" wide but these will work. I paid $100 per wheel and that's about as cheap as I have found them. You also must know it cost about $125 per wheel to have them milled from a 22.5" to a 22" and then you have to buy 8 to 10 lug adapters that will cost you around $800. So if you buy 6 aluminum Alcoa wheels $600 have them all milled $750 and buy adapters $800; you will have $2150 invested in just wheels and bolting them to your truck! It's not cheap but it will be worth it!!
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[jkeating1]

Thanks for that scoop! While you were posting that, I ran across a place that does the milling, etc., and your price guidelines run right about what he is. It helps to know that what he told me about what they do, and why, is exactly what you say. I might mention that he likes the steel adapter instead of cast iron. Of course he likes it because that's what he sells. But actually, it sounded like he has handled both.

These aren't Alcoas, but what do you think about the bigger holes? These are just an example--as I look for some, I might run across anything.

[JRANGER]

Sweeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gonna paint them? Or keep them like that?

[Rusbuilt]

undecided at the moment.

[cubber]

I never even thought about paint! Is that even an option? They would look tough all shined up, too, though!

[JRANGER]

could be but i know a guy that powder coats too Not sure how much he charges though

[jb1016]

Those semi wheels look sexy just sitting there!

[Rusbuilt]

Originally Posted by cubber

I never even thought about paint! Is that even an option? They would look tough all shined up, too, though!

Pic for you below!!

Originally Posted by jb1016

Those semi wheels look sexy just sitting there!

Why thank you!

[jkeating1]

Originally Posted by Rusbuilt

Pic for you below!!


Why thank you!

Is that your tire size, too?

[5150]

Powdercoat those bad boys white!!! Should be around $50 a wheel.

[Rusbuilt]

I like having options!

[Rusbuilt]

Should be close to that

[jkeating1]

Less than 28" tire height, 4.10 gear, 292 torque---I'm cool with a 3.49 first gear!