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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
Since my plan is to put the gas tank behind the rear axle, how close to the S10 frame can the cab be mounted? Are there clearance or other issues to deal with when mounting the front end if the cab was 1 inch or so from the frame? I know the transmission hump will have to be higher. Just looking for lowering options and I am not too concerned with a shallower box in the back.
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At 5" between frame and cab, I had a small transmission tunnel to contend with along with modifications to the rear bed. Two inches lower, I would have to tunnel the entire cab to clear the driveshaft which would also mean cutting up the seat mount. When mounting, the cab wasn't the deciding factor for height, it was actually the radiator and front fenders. If the radiator and cab don't line up, you'll end up with odd gaps in the front fenders where they mount to the front grill, where they mount to the cab, and in trying to line the fenders up on the wheel well. I am now sitting at a ride height I like quite a lot. A 2" drop spindle and 28" diameter tires, I'm looking at sitting about 6-8" off the ground. I can go measure tonight when I'm in the garage.
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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
Sorry about the double post as I got lost on the site for a while. This is terrific information to work with. I think I will go with the proven mount plans Hussey posted with the new urethane mount bushings I picked up.
I would definitely like to get your final height measurements. Nice looking wheels by the way, even if the spacers are required. The current plan is to be on the road late next summer if all goes well. |
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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
I'll keep editing this graphic as I get parts together. But here are all my measurements including the cab mount. This is without drop spindles or blocks.
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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
To Hussey
Great thread and awesome truck. i am building a 1950 gmc on an s10 frame and this thread has been a great help. I do have a question about your brake pedal ergonomics. It seems the pedal is on the left side of the steering column. Does that make it seem like you are crossing your legs to stop and or does your foot hit the steering column? Or is your gas pedal and brake pedal mounted slightly to the left causing a slight twist in your lower back while driving? I only ask because i am building a daily driver and want it to be economic. |
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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
Yes, the arm of the brake pedal is on the left of the column but with the bend in the arm it puts the brake pedal under the column. The brake pedal is a little high in relationship to the gas pedal but that's just how it works out using the S10 bracket and pedal arm...not really an issue though. The gas pedal is about where you would expect it. There are some contraints with where the pedals can go but I thought I was able to get them to sit in a comfortable position with no ergonomic issues. I'm sitting at the airport heading out for a short work trip...I can grab a couple of pics looking head on at the pedals when I get back mid-week if you like.
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Here's a couple pictures I grabbed.
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Dunno why but I can't see any picture here.
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Hopefully you can see them now.
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looks great man! hows the truck coming or are you "done" (never done haha)
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I love the "Moon" pedals
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I see them. Thanks for fixing that. I have read through your build a few times now and haven’t seen anything about the steering linkage. I was wondering how well the s10 v8 swap headers worked with your steering. You mentioned earlier that you would of possibly tried some block hugger style headers. Any pictures and or words of experience would be awesome.
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I've found that the most fun I had with it was during the building stage. I do drive it but honestly not enough. About the only time I get out in it is driving to work when I don't have to drop off or pick up my kids. My six year old daughter loves going for rides in it, in summer time we'd go up to Quick Trip, grab and ice cream cone, and sit on the tail gate. I'd really like to get a 53 or 54 Chevy two door to build so I could take the family out more, the truck just really doesn't allow for that. I found a nice 53 in Missouri and I'm tempted to get it but I've just got too many other things going on. When my oldest daughter hits about 10 though I do want to find a mild project so I can get her in the garage and start teaching her how to turn wrenches. She already likes going out to the garage with me but I think she needs to be just a bit older to work on such a project. I did happen to drive it to work today and grabbed this shot on the way out... |
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neat man, I always say kids are great because YOU grow up right before THEIR eyes. sounds like you have some fun with them!
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yeah, me too. I am a contract engineer so most of my life is solving problems, banging around on old steel, making stuff fit and different systems work together is just the most fun a guy could have.
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I'm a little late but yes, now I can see the pics. Thank you HUSSEY.
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So, how did the no prop valve in the braking system workout?
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Worked fine, no problems on hard stops. With a disk/disk setup I don't think a proportioning valve is as critical as with disk/drums...sure you've seen it but I posted a great article I found previously here:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=710975 My only compliant with my brakes system is that the pedal is a little bit too light. I used a dual diaphragm 8 in. booster. I've thought about switching to either a single diaphragm 9 or 10 in. or a dual diaphragm 7 in. booster to get a little more feedback in the pedal. Last edited by HUSSEY; 12-18-2017 at 05:46 PM. |
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Hussey, I would like to thank you for all the time you have put into posting your build. I am modeling my 50 build from your design and without your details I would be lost. I have my cab mounted and front sheet metal but I not clear on the running board mounts. Do you have measurements of the different parts of the bracket assembly?
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I would drill the holes a little oblong in the vertical pieces that attached to the frame to give you a little up and down adjustment. If you follow this process I think it'll turn out better than going from dimension. Good luck! |
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Thanks for the tips. I have one more question about the angle iron you bolted on the inner bed sides, I see you have a picture showing a location measurement but I am not sure what is being referenced. My bedsides are new so the factory rails are there but I assume using those will make the bed sit high. |
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Re: "Albert" -- 1949 AD, S10 Chassis
You will have to remove the rails on your bed sides, they sit too high.
On the back end, the bottom of the angle was 1/2 in. from the edge of the bedside where the bed cross piece connects under the tail gate. On the front end, the bottom of the angle intersected the loses bolt hole that the front bed panel bolts to. Take a second look and the pics and I'm sure it'll be more clearer: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...&postcount=144 |
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