Project Vitamin C-10

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by flips72

i like the valve covers, but i have to agree with some of the others, either chrome or ploished aluminum would look good with the headers and breather.congrats on the 60k thats awesome.

I agree, and at this point they won't be polished since the fiasco at the powder coater. I don't want to buy another set.

Originally Posted by VA72C10

I'd vote either orange to match the block (and a stock upgraded look) and keep the chrome air cleaner...

...or paint it the roof color w/ or w/out the orange filling the recess area (more subtle without) I'd recommend to paint the air cleaner the same roof color if you paint them that color. If not, as others have said, there will be too many colors/finishes going on...

I'd even paint the brake booster the same color at that point...but that's just me being ocd...

I'll start with the valve covers being painted the roof color with orange engraving and go from there. The brake booster is already the roof color.

Originally Posted by McMurphy

If they were mine to do, it would be the second one I colored for you.
To me the simple black lettering, with the 2 color wavelength looks classy, pops, but does not go over board.
My wife liked the last 2, but to me the lettering with the orange in it was over the top, looked too busy to me.

I wanted you to see them before I voted on which one I liked.

Good luck on whatever you decide to do, versus what you end up doing of course LOL !!!

Thanks again for the input and help with the visuals. I plan on the roof color with orange engraving for now. That is bound to change before it is said and done. Ronnie is rubbing off on me. jk Ronnie.

Originally Posted by aggie91

Ok, I won't tell you...it does get good gas mileage and hauls the boy's baseball equipment nicely...

Alan, I know that you will make the right choice on what to do about the valve covers. You have done such a good job with every thing else on this build. Another thought would be to the valve covers and air cleaner in gloss black with the orange detailing in the lettering. Just another idea to toss around.

Oh, the choices. I can't take the pressure. jk That's would probably look nice. Still leaning towards silver/orange for now.

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Well Alan you ask and you received... got more answers then questions.. LOL

[Strodder]

I have my own ideas that's a little different, but still on track. Ditch the chrome air cleaner for a painted one to match the Orange & silver Valve covers. And use all chrome bolts on the valve covers to accent it.

[McMurphy]

Dennis could you please link me where to get that air cleaner? I have not seen it in any of the catalogs yet and I really want one!

[65Custom]

Another option paint the valve covers your Grille Color and then orange lettering?

[57truckguy]

Anymore options and we'll have to start a new thread..

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by McMurphy

Dennis could you please link me where to get that air cleaner? I have not seen it in any of the catalogs yet and I really want one!

Here ya go McMurphy.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Retro-...aner,1052.html

[McMurphy]

Originally Posted by Strodder

Here ya go McMurphy.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Retro-...aner,1052.html

Caddilac/Oldsmobile .... no wonder it isnt in my truck catalogs!!
Thanks Dennis

[Strodder]

Your welcome McMurphy.

[daverod]

I think you just caused a price increase on the ones that are on Ebay.I want one.

[VA72C10]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I'll start with the valve covers being painted the roof color with orange engraving and go from there. The brake booster is already the roof color.

I guess the flash must have thrown me off...I see it now and that'll definitely help tie it all together!

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by daverod

I think you just caused a price increase on the ones that are on Ebay.I want one.

On E-Bay they cost more. I found them cheeper at Speedway.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

I have my own ideas that's a little different, but still on track. Ditch the chrome air cleaner for a painted one to match the Orange & silver Valve covers. And use all chrome bolts on the valve covers to accent it.

I do like that style air cleaner. Someday it might be an upgrade.

Originally Posted by 65Custom

Another option paint the valve covers your Grille Color and then orange lettering?

The grill and the roof are the same color. That is my plan right now. It might be awhile, we had a guy go down in his back at work, so the work load has increased for the rest of us. Making hay while the sun is shinning.

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Anymore options and we'll have to start a new thread..

Originally Posted by VA72C10

I guess the flash must have thrown me off...I see it now and that'll definitely help tie it all together!

Thanks, I believe it will as well.

[McMurphy]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

The grill and the roof are the same color. That is my plan right now. It might be awhile, we had a guy go down in his back at work, so the work load has increased for the rest of us. Making hay while the sun is shinning.

Hmmmm I think perhaps the term "Making Hay" may have a different meaning down there in the south.....
Up in the PNW where I am from it is the sort of thing that gets you shot at by a mad daddy on a summers night.....

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by McMurphy

Hmmmm I think perhaps the term "Making Hay" may have a different meaning down there in the south.....
Up in the PNW where I am from it is the sort of thing that gets you shot at by a mad daddy on a summers night.....

Down here you "make it when the gettin's good".

I hung the headlight mounting panel tonight and dropped 2 bolts in the bumper. The headlights work hi/low. I figured out I have 2 pins crossed in the speedo pod. When I dim the head lights the gauge lights lite up and the headlight indicator comes on when the lights are turned on. oops. Minor fix. The headlights are bright as heck.

I got an original bumper to fit, but this repop doesn't. It mainly has to do with the right rail where it was hit. A little work at the bolt should go right in.

The upper radiator hose tbe is powder coated and installed. Just need a couple more clamps. Shannon ordered me a billet radiator cap and tested it to make sure it fit.

If you notice next to the water neck is the temp sensor for the fan relay. I have to pick up ignition power. I really don't want to run a wire to the switch. I thought about tapping into the alt. if possible of the distributor ign feed. I could also come off of the choke. I can't fit another wire into the tubes along the valve covers. Ideas??

[Strodder]

On this 396 in the 57 Panel I'm working on I installed the fan and temp sensor in a t-fitting because on this old intake manifold there was only 1 hole for the sensors. I hid best I could the wires down the front of the engine to the fan relay on the core support. Just an idea. Have fun.

[57truckguy]

Alan, I'm trying to figure out why you need power at that location. My temp sensor is a grounding source to turn on the fan, or complete the circuit, when the temp gets hot enough to close the switch in the sensor. Most sensor are just on/off switches to ground, at least the ones I've used on my vehicles. Your wiring kit should have a power wire in it for the fan. If you want I could get the wiring diagram I used for my fan!
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[57truckguy]

Found it.. http://www.vintageair.com/download/0...%20Diagram.pdf
This is similar to what I used
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[65Custom]

I guess your picture of the Grile when it was laying down gave me the impression it was a darker color, no excuses for not getting up there and seeing it in person

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Found it.. http://www.vintageair.com/download/0...%20Diagram.pdf
This is similar to what I used
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That's the same one I used.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

On this 396 in the 57 Panel I'm working on I installed the fan and temp sensor in a t-fitting because on this old intake manifold there was only 1 hole for the sensors. I hid best I could the wires down the front of the engine to the fan relay on the core support. Just an idea. Have fun.

Looks nice!!

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Alan, I'm trying to figure out why you need power at that location. My temp sensor is a grounding source to turn on the fan, or complete the circuit, when the temp gets hot enough to close the switch in the sensor. Most sensor are just on/off switches to ground, at least the ones I've used on my vehicles. Your wiring kit should have a power wire in it for the fan. If you want I could get the wiring diagram I used for my fan!
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See diagram below. The yellow wire to the temp switch is the question. I hooked the green up to the power wire on the AC compressor.

Originally Posted by 65Custom

I guess your picture of the Grile when it was laying down gave me the impression it was a darker color, no excuses for not getting up there and seeing it in person

The flash washed it out.

[57truckguy]

If you use the diagram from Vinage Air you elimate the need to run power throught the temp switch. It pretty similuar but uses fewer wires... From the relay Pin 30 would go to a circuit breaker then to the battery or 12 volt source.
Pin 87 would go to the fans just as you now have.
Pin 86 would have one wire to the temp sensor
Pin 85 would have one wire to the 12 volt ignition on/off.
You could add an optional on by adding a wire from Pin 86 to the ac compressor wire some where not on the engine in the wiring someplace. You would need to check you wiring diagram to see where you could tap into that wire.. Should be easy and no need to run a power wire back to the ignition switch
By using the Vinage Air wiring diagram you don't need the 30 amp fuse in the fan circuit but do use a 40 amp circuti breaker in the 12 volt battery supply circuit.. Circuit breaker makes it better if the fan should ever over draw the dircuit it would kick out then reset in a few minutes giving you time to save the engine from overheating due to a blown fuse. Just my thoughts.

[C@rnut001]

It is all coming together and looking great! It is so cool to see it this close and I bet you are sure happy to see it getting closer and closer. Keep it up and thanks for updating.

[daverod]

Zoom zoom.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

If you use the diagram from Vinage Air you elimate the need to run power throught the temp switch. It pretty similuar but uses fewer wires... From the relay Pin 30 would go to a circuit breaker then to the battery or 12 volt source.
Pin 87 would go to the fans just as you now have.
Pin 86 would have one wire to the temp sensor
Pin 85 would have one wire to the 12 volt ignition on/off.
You could add an optional on by adding a wire from Pin 86 to the ac compressor wire some where not on the engine in the wiring someplace. You would need to check you wiring diagram to see where you could tap into that wire.. Should be easy and no need to run a power wire back to the ignition switch
By using the Vinage Air wiring diagram you don't need the 30 amp fuse in the fan circuit but do use a 40 amp circuti breaker in the 12 volt battery supply circuit.. Circuit breaker makes it better if the fan should ever over draw the dircuit it would kick out then reset in a few minutes giving you time to save the engine from overheating due to a blown fuse. Just my thoughts.

Sounds easier and looks easier. I believe there would be a special temp switch to do this, correct? I need one that switches, not one for the gauge. I'll do some studying on this. Thanks for the input.

Originally Posted by C@rnut001

It is all coming together and looking great! It is so cool to see it this close and I bet you are sure happy to see it getting closer and closer. Keep it up and thanks for updating.

Yes, it is very exciting. Just nervous to turn the switch.

Originally Posted by daverod

Zoom zoom.

It's getting closer. Hey, wait it minute it's not a Mazda.

Didn't do much except clean up a little, installed the passenger sunvisor and took the skates out from under it. I'm use to it being higher, now with the skates out it's totally different. I took an areial shot also.

[57truckguy]

Alan , I just went to Napa an ask for a temp switch that turned on at 190, Real cheap and easy.

I figured that I wouldn't need the compressor switch since anytime the engine gets to 190 the fan would come on anyway.. Some add an additonal fan to come on when the ac compressor is on for the extra insurance to keep the engine cool during slow( parades,etc,) driving. May be needed may not. depends on how good your cooling system is setup.

I acually used the triary switch setup, a little more complated but a safer system for the ac..

If I had it to do over I would probably go with the binary system to give some protection to the compressor and keep the wiring simplar.