My '67 Fleetside C10 renew

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by CURSED GEARS

I also went through your whole build. Took a couple of hours. Good stuff. Seeing that picture of your boys arm put butterflys in my stomach! I'm anxious to see how your paint turns out. I did my own paint a few years ago for the first time, I could of used all of this advice. I'll be watching, good luck!

Thanks for the read! I'm feeling pretty good now about painting it myself but we'll see!!

[jlsanborn]

Got a bit done yesterday and I'm headed out to light the fire again. I patched them silly holes in the rocker and got a little filler over them. Got the mess cleaned up and got the doors back out. The PO must have tried nine different sets of mirrors on this thing but I've got all them holes filled and both skins are done. I just gotta drill holes for a passenger mirror and weld in some nuts for arm rests then I'll be ready to shootem!

[Bomp]

Sure am glad you mentioned holes. I went out and looked at my replacement floor section (not installed yet thank God) and from the factory,,,,,,,stinkin' holes. Easier to fix off the truck rather than when their on.
Gotta have the boy shoot some vid with the uninjured arm when your blowin paint.

[jlsanborn]

Will do on the movie!
Ya, if I had seen the holes before I hung the rocker I could have simply plug welded them with a copper bar. Instead I ended up making tiny little circle patches, tacked finish nails across their asses so they wouldn't fall in then baby welded them in. What would have taken five minutes is now taking hours.
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[Low Elco]

Parts look great! Keep it up! Like I said, not so bad once you start Rollin!
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[jlsanborn]

I'm withya on that!

Unfortunately, not much to report today. I did get the passenger door drilled for the mirror and went over both skins with filler again today. Man, that Durablock and 150 bring the filler in sideways! Both doors are WAY better than they were and I thought they were already done! Tried welding nuts inside the inner doors for the armrests. There are bosses and square holes just for them in the door, just none of them square nuts mashed in there. I welded a 1/4"-20 nut into one hole but it took forever to get it right and looks like ass. I have riv-nuts and the tool at work and I think a 1/4"er will fit in there good so Ima wait til Monday.

Gonna try and get it outside for a little wash then tidy up a little in the moring cuz Ma and Pa are coming for chow. I will get something done on the truck too tho!

[jlsanborn]

Got some work done yesterday before I had to stop and clean-house. There's getting to be a lot $hit in there again!

Found some threaded inserts at the hardware store that worked great for the arm rests. I thought about drilling out the nuts I had welded in the other door but decieded to move ahead. They look like crap but are solid. It's behind the panel anyway. Match drilled the panels and test fit - good to go! Welded up the little holes in the driver's panel and got everything sanded down.

It's MNF with Wifey tonight, but tomorrow I'll be back in the fun-dome shootin epoxy on those, the grille, tailgate and heater box!

[Low Elco]

Yummy gray frosting! If you spray it nice and smooth, you can dust the flat spots with 400, scotchbrite the rest down into the grooves, etc, and good to go! I would suggest shooting final paint on these, glovebox door, that kinda thing in advance (now) to get a feel for the products to come. Easy fix and all that. You're doing great!

[jlsanborn]

That's more great advice! I could probably do the door panels and cowl for testers.

I've assumed I could put the white vinyl tailgate letters down after basecoat and cover in clear??? Sound ok?

[Low Elco]

Ummmmm... put the letters on over the final paint.
1. They're cheap vinyl; they tend to peel up and go chalky if left out in the sun, etc. Easier to replace this way.

2. It'll look cool right off, then they'll either off-gas and pop your clear, or shrink up and jack up your clear. You don't want no part of fixin this.

3. This is just me, but paint the gate and put one coat of clear on. Scotchbrite the clear. cut out the letters of the kit so you have the outlines with the letters. Lay them on, but use the outlines, and peel the letters out and tape up the gaps. Dust whatever color you want in here and clear 2x. Hey, you've committed "custom paint"! And they won't peel up or fade or look crappy! Ad if you screw it up, snad it off the clear and re-base! Who cares!

That's what I'd do, but I'm a shifty feller with questionable morals. Do what you Will!

[jlsanborn]

Makes sense.... Don't want to bury something under the clear that might turn to crap. I like the idea of painting the letters on there but not sure how well I could mask that. I get what you're saying about using the inverse of the sticker sheet but my letters are recessed and I'm not sure how well that'd lay.. Ya know, I have one of them laser engravers at work. If I could duplicate the letters in CAD I could cut some outta wide tape. What if I sprayed white base and one clear over the letters, put my fancy tape letters on there and shot the yellow base???? Would the yellow cover that white very well? I could sell them suckers!

What would be cool is if I could shoot yellow / one clear, lay the tape letters, spray some kind of soluable masking spray goo, lift the letters, shoot white, wash the soluable masking spray goo that I haven't invented yet then two clear!

[Low Elco]

I have a can of the goo. House of Kolor sells it, it's called spraymask.

Www.coastairbrush.com
Works good if you spray it on thick. I would base 1 clear scuff mask cut out peel shoot peel 2 clear. Your other idea is valid, but those letters stick pretty good and the base probably ain't gonna be happy about it. Also, a lot of times those letters aren't exactly accurate. Have no fear of masking! Crack a beer, calm your self, get the right tools/supplies and knock it out! 1/4 inch blue tape(very fresh) for the edges, 2"masking for the fills, paper the big stuff, no biggie. Dust in your color, unmask and clear! Done!
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[jlsanborn]

Kay, so plan as of now is to mask the grill/fenders like Cloud 9 and also the tailgate letters. I bet the Boy can do it better than I can, until I get some glasses anyway!
I still haven't bought the paint. I'm sitting on a small pot of dough that would prolly get me that, but I'm not sure I'm ready just yet. I'm still going to touch the seam sealer on the cab and there's some small spots that still need a bit more finish on there. Doors are good I think but I still gotta epoxy those, seam seal and block.
I pulled out a fender today and got some work done. I have a great appreciation for all them metal workers like Bomp! I replaced the whole driver's rocker and fabbed a few inches of drip rail already but this is the worst spot on the truck .

straight-edged a cut-out
traced the contour of the cut-out piece onto the table
mashed the cut-out piece flat then traced it onto an old door skin
used my trusty jig-saw with a metal blade to cut it out
hammered the patch to match the contour I had traced onto the table
ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP
grind, grind, flap, flap

Whole lotta phukin around for a little patch! Can't imagine chopping a couple rotten cabs in half and trying to join them back together five inches apart!

I'm moving forward and WILL FINISH!

[jlsanborn]

Still don't know how to INSERT as smooth as Bomp!
(ya, that's a floater, right over the middle)

[Bomp]

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Still don't know how to INSERT as smooth as Bomp!
(ya, that's a floater, right over the middle)

Patch work looks good. You need one of these attachments to see it inserted nice and smooth. oh brother, I can see Low Elco bustin' up over backwards in his chair.
When I mig I leave a slight gap so the wire has decent penetration between the two pieces, then you grind off the excess. More work but you can control the heat issue more easily. If I tig I try to get the metal to butt up dang near perfectly so the use of filler rod won't be needed. Lots more heat and more likely to warp, then you have to go back and hammer and dolly. Usually. Thats just me cause my experience level tiggin sheet metal is rather limited. Now on 3 /16" its a different story.
There ya have it. LE has enough ammo to write a book now.

[Low Elco]

Originally Posted by Bomp

Patch work looks good. You need one of these attachments to see it inserted nice and smooth. oh brother, I can see Low Elco bustin' up over backwards in his chair.]

No book, polishing my halo over here..... You did crack me up, though!

Hey, I'm stealing the light mount idea! That would have been handy as hell this summer, more than once!

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by Bomp

Patch work looks good. You need one of these attachments to see it inserted nice and smooth. oh brother, I can see Low Elco bustin' up over backwards in his chair.
When I mig I leave a slight gap so the wire has decent penetration between the two pieces, then you grind off the excess. More work but you can control the heat issue more easily. If I tig I try to get the metal to butt up dang near perfectly so the use of filler rod won't be needed. Lots more heat and more likely to warp, then you have to go back and hammer and dolly. Usually. Thats just me cause my experience level tiggin sheet metal is rather limited. Now on 3 /16" its a different story.
There ya have it. LE has enough ammo to write a book now.

I especially admire the use of the hose bits to create the stand-offs and to capture the ty-wraps! Way to use the noggin man! Remember McGuiver? Dude could make a ten-speed with his belt and a few bits of trash

[gdavis]

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Kay, so plan as of now is to mask the grill/fenders like Cloud 9 and also the tailgate letters. I bet the Boy can do it better than I can, until I get some glasses anyway!
I still haven't bought the paint. I'm sitting on a small pot of dough that would prolly get me that, but I'm not sure I'm ready just yet. I'm still going to touch the seam sealer on the cab and there's some small spots that still need a bit more finish on there. Doors are good I think but I still gotta epoxy those, seam seal and block.
I pulled out a fender today and got some work done. I have a great appreciation for all them metal workers like Bomp! I replaced the whole driver's rocker and fabbed a few inches of drip rail already but this is the worst spot on the truck .

straight-edged a cut-out
traced the contour of the cut-out piece onto the table
mashed the cut-out piece flat then traced it onto an old door skin
used my trusty jig-saw with a metal blade to cut it out
hammered the patch to match the contour I had traced onto the table
ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP-ZAP
grind, grind, flap, flap

Whole lotta phukin around for a little patch! Can't imagine chopping a couple rotten cabs in half and trying to join them back together five inches apart!

I'm moving forward and WILL FINISH!

I used a bag of sand to round my metal. I put dry sand in a old pillar case and it does work.

[jlsanborn]

Originally Posted by gdavis

I used a bag of sand to round my metal. I put dry sand in a old pillar case and it does work.

Thanks for the tip and I'll give that a try!

[Low Elco]

Right over the middle-har! Patch looks great! You find it goes a lot faster when you get your process down. I usually cut out what I need, overlay with masking paper, pencil rub the shape, cut that out, trace it over on my patch, and cut it out. But you cut a touch oversize and dust it with your zip sander to make it exact size. It's kinda fun, after a while. Looks great, keep it up!
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[67cheby]

great job !

[Low Elco]

Sniff, sniff, no paint in here?
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[jlsanborn]

Nope, reeks like fuel in there lately. Wifey is on boondoggle for four days tho so I'm planning on getting back on it!

[Low Elco]

Originally Posted by jlsanborn

Nope, reeks like fuel in there lately. Wifey is on boondoggle for four days tho so I'm planning on getting back on it!

WTH is Boondoggle? Some freaky NW thing? Should you have told that on a public forum? Ommmmmmieeeee..... You in trouble........
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[butternut1972]

^^^Must be eastside thing, cause I've never heard it. Thats funny though.
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