Let's Build A 1 Ton Crew Cab 4x4

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Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

Why would you not have slip on option?

I have a dually. The hub extension bolts onto the hat of the rotor. Does that not matter? I haven't had the hub assembly apart but I assumed the slip on option wasn't an option for me. If I'm wrong that would be great.

[NastyBuzzard]

Originally Posted by MTCK

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLA...&v=KleZ8eGogHo

This guy is a member on here. I need to do one stub shaft u joint on my 91...

Ahh! Yes! He makes it look easy, and it may be. Definitely going to do it. Beats going into it later which is what I am all about.

Dually... Yeah you make a good point. However, it could still work for you. Just would require someone trying to do it and see if there is enough of the hub left to keep the dually adapter hubcentric. It would work just like newer dually axles with slip on rotors basically.

Instead of the adapter bolting to hub/touch the face of the hub it would touch the face of the rotor, the hat thickness is around .25 " or so I believe so maybe longer bolts. It really just depends on if the adapter can stay hubcentric or not. If I had an axle I could tell you once I mock it up.

I will post as much detailed pics as possible so you can kind of see how it is done and get a feel of if it is possible for you or not.

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Well maybe I'll pioneer it for the good of the cause. I will need to at the very least have the stock rotors turned this winter. The right one is starting to get some decent grooves. I'll try and remember to take some pictures and some measurements when I tear it down.

[NastyBuzzard]

So how do I find the part number for the Ujoint in the half shafts in the Dana 60? All I see are Ujoints for driveshafts. I want to make sure I get the correct ones.

Edit: Wait.. This one?

https://www.amazon.com/Moog-374-Univ...ype=automotive

Edit 2 : Spicer SPL55-3X seems to be the right part number and the more universally accepted as the better ujoint.. Not cheap though!

[NastyBuzzard]

Got 2 out of 4 of my rotors in. The top one is from a 04 2500HD rear (AAM 10.5), 13" rotor. The bottom is from a 2010 Dodge Ram 3500 front, 14.125" rotor (It says it weighs 40lbs and I believe it!)

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Nice!

[y5mgisi]

Cool!

[mcmlxix]

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

So how do I find the part number for the Ujoint in the half shafts in the Dana 60? All I see are Ujoints for driveshafts. I want to make sure I get the correct ones.

This may help ID parts and part numbers...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/60_front/

[NastyBuzzard]

I had all 4 hubs turned down to 8". Rotors slipped right on over!



One thing I also learned is that GM took the front calipers off of 1500 trucks and put them on the rear axle, and I just happen to have some from my original donor for my LS swap. So saved me some $ there, just need to clean them up! But now I have my calipers & brackets for the rear. I also now know how far to space out the rear so getting even closer!



I hope my front adapter brackets don't take too long to show up today.

[NastyBuzzard]

Uh.... what the hell?





Here is the thread where another guy did it. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/chevy...ibility-2.html

[y5mgisi]

In one pic in the pirate thread it shows the spacing being that far off. But I didn't read the words that coincide with the pics lol.

[y5mgisi]

It also seems like on the complete pics that he has more hub sticking past the rotor than you do. Do you maybe need to start with hubs from a slide on drum axle?

[NastyBuzzard]

I'm pretty sure he had the non slip off drums but that could be true!! Ugh crap. How to find out? I don't have that other style hub.

[NastyBuzzard]

I couldn't swap those other style hubs on my 14 bolt could I? They aren't compatible with the non slip on style or am I wrong?

[y5mgisi]

I think they swap.

[NastyBuzzard]

I really need a set so I can find out! It's killing me!

[lgvl]

Not to get off topic but i couldn't help but notice the pitch of your roof. It's hard to tell from the pics but thats an awfully low pitch for shingles. 2.5" of rise per 12" of run is the minimum for shingles. It looks like you did a good job of installing the new shingles but wind and rain might find their way under them. Just my 2 cents.

BTW, the truck looks great, i'd love to convert my C30 some day.

Originally Posted by NastyBuzzard

I got it in the shop. Which was kind of a feat considering how nasty my driveway is.. I had to improvise with some 2x6's and what not but it is in.

PS fuel tank is off, DS is on its way. Hoods off and I am starting to take the front radiator core support off. I plan to swap in the 89-91 style while I am doing the front end swap and fixing the head gasket. I currently have a 89-91 Chevy grill but need a GMC one and maybe the wiring harness or at least pigtails.




Now I need to find the exact information on shortening the frame. I think it is 6" back from rear cab mount then 14" with the "Z" cut. Then a few inches off the rear of the frame.

Also need to decide if I am going dual 16 gal tanks or the k5 tank.

This is why I didn't get to make much progress..









I hate this ****tily done addition..

[NastyBuzzard]

Yeah that's why I had to redo it. I hate that addition, if it didn't house my laundry room I'd tear it down!! However, when I fixed it I put down storm gaurd which removes the issues you just listed. It is amazing stuff but stupid expensive for what it is.

[NastyBuzzard]

So this might be an option to get my 14BFF brake swap to work... Dually Rotors. It is about 2" deeper than the non dually option, still drum in hat park brake.



The spindles are different between the 2 styles of 14BFFs. The newer 89+ axle has a spindle which is 6-3/4" long and the older style 88 and below has 7-1/2" long spindle.. So it is up to finding the right rotor. So we shall see.

I didn't have but a couple hours out in the shop over the weekend but I clearance my bed for the blazer tank. I have to clean it up with grinder and weld it up so it isn't weak.



Started stripping down the passenger front side of the axle. The spindle and shaft came out nice and easy. Now I need that giant allen head to get the knuckle off.





Also, my dana 60 brake swap brackets arrived!!

[y5mgisi]

All interesting stuff!

[y5mgisi]

Oh also, the knuckle will come off with that upper king pin in place. You just have to remove the bottom plate/bearing assembly deal.

[NastyBuzzard]

Originally Posted by y5mgisi

Oh also, the knuckle will come off with that upper king pin in place. You just have to remove the bottom plate/bearing assembly deal.

I can't get that dang bottom plate off! I took the bolts out but it wont come off?

[NastyBuzzard]

More parts on order... Including a $30 allen wrench... So whats the best way to go for king pins? Brass, plastic? Where to buy for the best price w/ shipping?

[y5mgisi]

The bottom plate just comes off after you take the four bolts off if I recall correctly. I think it's mad4wd that has the best deals on everything for the front. And if you're not aware those kingpins are usually a mother to get loose!

[NastyBuzzard]

So I have heard... Luckily I have torches. I bought the giant allen wrench though, its like 14" long, so hopefully that and a cheater bar will get it out...

I took the bolts out, put my chisel on it and smacked it with my mini sledge and it didn't budge one bit, I checked it over to see if I missed anything and found nothing. So maybe I wasn't beating hard enough?