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randomco · 02-07-2016, 11:20 AM

Ok guys I need some help. My power steering isn't working. Before I connected the lines to the pump and fired up the truck, I could turn the wheel lock to lock no problem. Now that it's plumbed and with fluid that tbe steering is very lumpy and no power assist. I have the front jacked up. The wheel will turn about 1/4 steering wheel turn easily and then get to a big lump and is really tough to get past, then another easy part followed by a hard lump again. About 3 lumps from center to left lock and from center to right lock. Any one have problems with theirs?

BossHogg69 · 02-07-2016, 12:18 PM

I know you have a power rack and probably a type II pump, but I just replaced my power steering pump and steering box with stuff from AGR. I also have hydroboost. It literally took my about 4.5 hours to bleed the air out of the system to get it to act right - it was a frustrating PITA. This involved turning the wheels back and forth with the cap off the reservoir and the engine off to get all the air out, then you have to bleed the hydroboost part of the system too. Something else to check is anything hitting or binding up in the system, maybe you can have someone else come turn the wheel back and forth while you look. Did that steering rack come with a bleeding procedure in the instructions?

randomco · 02-07-2016, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHogg69

I know you have a power rack and probably a type II pump, but I just replaced my power steering pump and steering box with stuff from AGR. I also have hydroboost. It literally took my about 4.5 hours to bleed the air out of the system to get it to act right - it was a frustrating PITA. This involved turning the wheels back and forth with the cap off the reservoir and the engine off to get all the air out, then you have to bleed the hydroboost part of the system too. Something else to check is anything hitting or binding up in the system, maybe you can have someone else come turn the wheel back and forth while you look. Did that steering rack come with a bleeding procedure in the instructions?

Thanks for the tips. Was your steering hard and lumpy at first too? How much fluid did you end up using? How did you bleed your hydroboost?

BossHogg69 · 02-07-2016, 02:09 PM

I only started mine for a second after the swap, checked the reservoir and it was all foamed up and bubbling. While bleeding the box & pump with the engine off, yes it was hard to turn it lock to lock and that was with the truck up on my lift and the wheels off the ground. It took WAY more fluid than I expected. Well over 2 quarts, but I'm using a Saginaw pump and a steering box, so yours will probably be different, but it takes quite a bit of fluid to fill up all the lines, the rack (or box) and the pump/reservoir.

Did you just hook it up and fire up the motor and it wouldn't turn properly? I'm surprised your pump wasn't whining and making all kinds of noises. Mined was raising all kinds of hell when I iniatially fired it up after the first time I tried to bleed it and there was still a ton of air in the steering box.

http://www.agrperformance.com/Instal...erformance.htm

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/tech.html

This should help.

randomco · 02-10-2016, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossHogg69

I only started mine for a second after the swap, checked the reservoir and it was all foamed up and bubbling. While bleeding the box & pump with the engine off, yes it was hard to turn it lock to lock and that was with the truck up on my lift and the wheels off the ground. It took WAY more fluid than I expected. Well over 2 quarts, but I'm using a Saginaw pump and a steering box, so yours will probably be different, but it takes quite a bit of fluid to fill up all the lines, the rack (or box) and the pump/reservoir.

Did you just hook it up and fire up the motor and it wouldn't turn properly? I'm surprised your pump wasn't whining and making all kinds of noises. Mined was raising all kinds of hell when I iniatially fired it up after the first time I tried to bleed it and there was still a ton of air in the steering box.

http://www.agrperformance.com/Instal...erformance.htm

http://www.hydratechbraking.com/tech.html

This should help.

Thanks for the help guys! I found the problem...

I had tbe column spline too far into tbe unisteer u joint and it was binding on every turn. I'm a Dumbass! Backed it out and now tbe steering is smooth and effortless. Just need to finish up the brakes and I'll be ready.

Wasted Income · 02-10-2016, 11:49 AM

Can't believe I haven't run across this build thread before.

I approve of both the powertrain, and the color. Awesome build.

junour11 · 02-10-2016, 12:51 PM

i was going to suggest the binding steering shaft. i ran in to that problem on a 65 shelby cobra steering shaft. good job on the fix truck looks awesome.

mooseknuckles · 02-11-2016, 03:11 PM

hey Josh we need some updates.....get this thread back on track!

randomco · 02-11-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mooseknuckles

hey Josh we need some updates.....get this thread back on track!

need to work on the brakes a bit. Tried to bleed them yesterday and had fluid leaking from every connection! I hate brakes

BossHogg69 · 02-11-2016, 03:57 PM

Glad you got her back on track!

aggie91 · 02-11-2016, 05:31 PM

Very nice truck and a great build. Love the white frame and suspension!

randomco · 02-14-2016, 12:20 AM

First time driving Old Olive since she was an original pickup truck
https://youtu.be/pK5sk3kCYCo

randomco · 02-14-2016, 12:33 AM

First time driving Old Olive since she was an original pickup truck
https://youtu.be/pK5sk3kCYCo

junour11 · 02-14-2016, 12:35 AM

your truck looks sick bud.

bmfm64 · 02-18-2016, 04:09 PM

Nice work.

69short · 02-14-2016, 12:36 AM

That's awesome man. How'd it feel to drive it again?

BLUIDVL · 02-14-2016, 01:06 AM

Wicked build & good looking truck! Love the white frame.

mooseknuckles · 02-15-2016, 05:59 PM

that thing is awesome.

randomco · 02-15-2016, 07:22 PM

Thanks guys! It was good to drive the truck again, but it needs a good tune and I am having some issues with the truck dying immediately when I try to put the truck in R or D. It idles perfectly in P or N, but as soon as I try to put it in gear, it dies. Any ideas? Just a tuning issue?

Thanks
Josh

**Advanced Design** · 02-15-2016, 08:12 PM

Other than a tuning or too low idle, is there a vacuum leak?

randomco · 02-15-2016, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Other than a tuning or too low idle, is there a vacuum leak?

I have a drive by cable setup so I tried dialing up the idle. didn't help. I'm almost sure I don't have any vscuum leaks but I'll definitely check

aggie91 · 02-16-2016, 11:48 AM

Years ago, I had a truck that would do the same thing. It turned out to be the converter was to tight and would load up the engine enough to kill it.

**Advanced Design** · 02-16-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91

Years ago, I had a truck that would do the same thing. It turned out to be the converter was to tight and would load up the engine enough to kill it.

Had the same thought...converter applied. Maybe lift the rear tires off the ground, support safely and try putting in gear.

randomco · 02-16-2016, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Had the same thought...converter applied. Maybe lift the rear tires off the ground, support safely and try putting in gear.

I was afraid of it being the TC. I'm going to get the truck tuned first and go from there.

junour11 · 02-18-2016, 12:49 PM

there is a chance you have a bad idle air control solenoid, it may not be adjusting for the load put on by the transmission. it is a quick fix.

02-07-2016, 11:20 AM	#1
randomco Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 180	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Ok guys I need some help. My power steering isn't working. Before I connected the lines to the pump and fired up the truck, I could turn the wheel lock to lock no problem. Now that it's plumbed and with fluid that tbe steering is very lumpy and no power assist. I have the front jacked up. The wheel will turn about 1/4 steering wheel turn easily and then get to a big lump and is really tough to get past, then another easy part followed by a hard lump again. About 3 lumps from center to left lock and from center to right lock. Any one have problems with theirs? __________________ Josh 1970 Chevy C10 SWB build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=639787 1976 Chevy k10 Silverado Bought new in '75 by my Grandfather 1965 Lincoln Continental Convertible - SOLD 1965 Lincoln Continental Sedan - SOLD

02-07-2016, 12:18 PM	#2
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build I know you have a power rack and probably a type II pump, but I just replaced my power steering pump and steering box with stuff from AGR. I also have hydroboost. It literally took my about 4.5 hours to bleed the air out of the system to get it to act right - it was a frustrating PITA. This involved turning the wheels back and forth with the cap off the reservoir and the engine off to get all the air out, then you have to bleed the hydroboost part of the system too. Something else to check is anything hitting or binding up in the system, maybe you can have someone else come turn the wheel back and forth while you look. Did that steering rack come with a bleeding procedure in the instructions? __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

02-07-2016, 02:09 PM	#4
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build I only started mine for a second after the swap, checked the reservoir and it was all foamed up and bubbling. While bleeding the box & pump with the engine off, yes it was hard to turn it lock to lock and that was with the truck up on my lift and the wheels off the ground. It took WAY more fluid than I expected. Well over 2 quarts, but I'm using a Saginaw pump and a steering box, so yours will probably be different, but it takes quite a bit of fluid to fill up all the lines, the rack (or box) and the pump/reservoir. Did you just hook it up and fire up the motor and it wouldn't turn properly? I'm surprised your pump wasn't whining and making all kinds of noises. Mined was raising all kinds of hell when I iniatially fired it up after the first time I tried to bleed it and there was still a ton of air in the steering box. http://www.agrperformance.com/Instal...erformance.htm http://www.hydratechbraking.com/tech.html This should help. __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

02-10-2016, 11:49 AM	#6
Wasted Income Boosted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mackinaw, IL Posts: 2,200	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Can't believe I haven't run across this build thread before. I approve of both the powertrain, and the color. Awesome build. __________________ 1972 2wd K/5 Blazer Turbocharged 370 LSx - 941 rwhp / 1093 rwtq 1969 Chevy K-10 L33 5.3 / 4L80E / NP241 / 4" lift 1964 Buick Skylark Twin TURBO 383 LS pro-touring project 2014 VW Passat TDI - Daily Driver Turbo diesel 2015 Sierra Denali HD Duramax Turbo diesel 2016 Ford Explorer Sport - Twin Turbskis 2017 Polaris RZR Turbo 2014 Nor-Tech Center Console - Twin Supercharged Outboards *TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!*

02-10-2016, 12:51 PM	#7
junour11 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Santee, california Posts: 10	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build i was going to suggest the binding steering shaft. i ran in to that problem on a 65 shelby cobra steering shaft. good job on the fix truck looks awesome.

02-11-2016, 03:11 PM	#8
mooseknuckles Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ottawa,canada Posts: 4,550	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build hey Josh we need some updates.....get this thread back on track! __________________ my build threads '86 C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415628 '67 C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=635078 '63 GMC http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=674682

02-11-2016, 03:57 PM	#10
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Glad you got her back on track! __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

02-11-2016, 05:31 PM	#11
aggie91 I'm just glad to be here! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 4,788	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Very nice truck and a great build. Love the white frame and suspension! __________________ Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square

02-14-2016, 12:20 AM	#12
randomco Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 180	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build First time driving Old Olive since she was an original pickup truck https://youtu.be/pK5sk3kCYCo Attached Images __________________ Josh 1970 Chevy C10 SWB build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=639787 1976 Chevy k10 Silverado Bought new in '75 by my Grandfather 1965 Lincoln Continental Convertible - SOLD 1965 Lincoln Continental Sedan - SOLD

02-14-2016, 12:33 AM	#13
randomco Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 180	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build First time driving Old Olive since she was an original pickup truck https://youtu.be/pK5sk3kCYCo __________________ Josh 1970 Chevy C10 SWB build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=639787 1976 Chevy k10 Silverado Bought new in '75 by my Grandfather 1965 Lincoln Continental Convertible - SOLD 1965 Lincoln Continental Sedan - SOLD

02-14-2016, 12:35 AM	#14
junour11 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Santee, california Posts: 10	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build your truck looks sick bud.

02-18-2016, 04:09 PM	#15
bmfm64 Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Location: Covington, Wa Posts: 5,240	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Nice work.

02-14-2016, 12:36 AM	#16
69short Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Location: DeKalb, MO Posts: 508	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build That's awesome man. How'd it feel to drive it again? __________________ -Justin '69 SWB \| Zoie Jane \| Porterbuilt, LQ9, 20"/22" wheels

02-14-2016, 01:06 AM	#17
BLUIDVL Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: On a Mission in BC Posts: 156	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Wicked build & good looking truck! Love the white frame.

02-15-2016, 05:59 PM	#18
mooseknuckles Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ottawa,canada Posts: 4,550	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build that thing is awesome. __________________ my build threads '86 C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415628 '67 C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=635078 '63 GMC http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=674682



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02-15-2016, 07:22 PM	#19
randomco Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 180	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Thanks guys! It was good to drive the truck again, but it needs a good tune and I am having some issues with the truck dying immediately when I try to put the truck in R or D. It idles perfectly in P or N, but as soon as I try to put it in gear, it dies. Any ideas? Just a tuning issue? Thanks Josh __________________ Josh 1970 Chevy C10 SWB build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=639787 1976 Chevy k10 Silverado Bought new in '75 by my Grandfather 1965 Lincoln Continental Convertible - SOLD 1965 Lincoln Continental Sedan - SOLD

02-15-2016, 08:12 PM	#20
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,026	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Other than a tuning or too low idle, is there a vacuum leak? __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

02-16-2016, 11:48 AM	#22
aggie91 I'm just glad to be here! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Longview, TX Posts: 4,788	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build Years ago, I had a truck that would do the same thing. It turned out to be the converter was to tight and would load up the engine enough to kill it. __________________ Karl 1965 Chevy Stepside(Grandpa's Old Blue) and (July 2015 Shop Build!)(2020, the Saga Continues) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=372424 The LST Challenge: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post7812257 Korbin's 1st Square: "Sunburn" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=418618 1985 GMC Sierra: "White Trash", Korbin's 2nd now... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=632305 Henry - 1984 Chevrolet, Owen's 1st Square

02-18-2016, 12:49 PM	#25
junour11 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Santee, california Posts: 10	Re: "Old Olive" 1970 C10 porterbuilt build there is a chance you have a bad idle air control solenoid, it may not be adjusting for the load put on by the transmission. it is a quick fix.

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