Project Orange Crush (57 3100)

[lower50's]

Well don't give up!! It will all work out in the end. You could just buy a pre-made wire kit for your truck then just run wires?

[Valarius_Starchaser]

My uncle did one of them and for the price said he wouldn't ever do one again he still had to cut solder crimp exe which is where I am now the only benefit I see from them is you get all the wire in the kit and I have 100's of feet worth of wire between new and 3-4 harnesses I have gotten in the past

I'm not saying I want to give up I'm saying I definitely can't get it running in 3 days and likely won't have it done for the wedding at the rate I have been going wiring and rewiring 3 times in the last 2 weeks and still not having it right

So we may need to just slap the other side door on and shove it out in my grandfathers groove to avoid a ticket from uncle Sam

Not having fun anymore guys not one bit

[ptc]

Sorry Val been away at MAN CAMP for a few days.... had to get away!

Anyway looks like you have gotten yourself into a bunch of...... stuff!


First - the Kendall ZDDP should be fine for any break in run. then change it and run another first 500 miles with it and change it again. Thats why using $3.99 qt oil is better than $15.00 qt oil for this!!!!

Second - That IGN SW is from a '57 with a 6 cyl that had the foot starter switch, I dont know if that helps you figure things out or not.... you may have to use a start switch in your dash. You should be able to hook it up to a 9 volt battery and use a VOM to check all the leads for voltage when you switch it from all positions. SEE whats HOT and whats NOT.

Third - That oil sender line is for a mechanical type gauge. it should be a 1/8" pipe fitting and the plastic line they use now doesnt go thru the fitting it connects on top of it. Just get a new one like this

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Originally Posted by ptc

Sorry Val been away at MAN CAMP for a few days.... had to get away!

Anyway looks like you have gotten yourself into a bunch of...... stuff!


First - the Kendall ZDDP should be fine for any break in run. then change it and run another first 500 miles with it and change it again. Thats why using $3.99 qt oil is better than $15.00 qt oil for this!!!!

Second - That IGN SW is from a '57 with a 6 cyl that had the foot starter switch, I dont know if that helps you figure things out or not.... you may have to use a start switch in your dash. You should be able to hook it up to a 9 volt battery and use a VOM to check all the leads for voltage when you switch it from all positions. SEE whats HOT and whats NOT.

Third - That oil sender line is for a mechanical type gauge. it should be a 1/8" pipe fitting and the plastic line they use now doesnt go thru the fitting it connects on top of it. Just get a new one like this

Thanks for the tip on the Kendall oil I will dump the comp cams break in lube as well for break in just for the ZDDP content boost then chang it out for a fresh batch of Kendall and a dab of additive likely then having that batch tested for ZDDP to make sure I'm where I need to be

I have one of those kits and found the fitting that came off the gauge back new at my local parts house for under a dollar it appears to crush onto the line like the newer style just without the separate crush fitting a little odd but I never have set up a new sender line so it may be normal

I pulled my motor one last time and installed a one piece oil pan gasket I wasn't confident in the cork one after the front cover job

Lastly I need to correct a few wiring issues in my ignition system along with finding the switch that Rude Dude posted and wire it up

That along with exhaust a makeshift cooling system/ trans cooler lines and some fluids I may just be able to cobble my way out of a "abandoned automobile" ticket isn't that something I abandoned my vehicle in my driveway weird isn't it

[Rude Dude]

The key tumbler is different square style GM key. The plug in connector comes wired and tumbler has two keys is nice when wiring and available on ebay or local parts house. Looks very close to 67-72 truck ignition switch. This switch is used by many when converting to LS style motors because additional leads on back of switch for GRND isolated connections for ECM

[lower50's]

Oh I see. Crappy deal, good luck.

[Nut Case]

Val

I've been in similar spots like yours if you pain is like mine was, I know you're hurtin.
You can only do what you can do. Talk to dimples and figure how to not let this get in the middle of the big day.

Keep on keepin on.

Best wishes.

Nut Case

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Here's a few of the intermediate shaft as well

[Kim57]

Looking good.
Kim

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Thanks for the tip on the cylinder rude dude defanitly a good buy a little sad I couldn't use the original though

says the guy putting a 74 bbc 99 4L80e 98 ford 8.8 and a 76 nova subframe on his 57 chop top frankentruck

[lower50's]

Abandoned vehicle on your property should only apply if you have more than one and are clearly not working on them. Good luck.
Exhaust and steering look like they should work just fine.

[Advanced Design]

Making good progress Val. You mean they gave you a ticket for working on your vehicle?

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Yes Advanced Design when we spoke with the city representative he said if a vehicle isn't repaired in 14 days time and is operational (their definition is the motor runs) then we will be fined and the vehicle could be towed at a later date

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by Valarius_Starchaser

Yes Advanced Design when we spoke with the city representative he said if a vehicle isn't repaired in 14 days time and is operational (their definition is the motor runs) then we will be fined and the vehicle could be towed at a later date

Thanks Val, wow....though I can understand their intent, it does mess up a car guy. You can beat their deadline...!

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Thanks Val, wow....though I can understand their intent, it does mess up a car guy. You can beat their deadline...!

Yah really annoyed it was a neighbor that called it in not sure which but the representative said that they called every day for a week straight they blatantly lied saying I am running an auto repair business and dump oil on my property as well as work well past 10pm almost ever night when I'm never out past 8pm

Some people need to get a life

[RockinKees]

Originally Posted by Valarius_Starchaser

Some people need to get a life

Sure!
But not in your neighbourhood!!
What a dumbhead.

Keep up the good work Val!

[lower50's]

Why do ppl have to be like that? It is clear you are working on the same vehicle. Just beat them to it and get it to pass. Hope you get a good bylaw person, and If you find out who it is just call on them for everything you can.

[joedoh]

Originally Posted by Valarius_Starchaser

Yah really annoyed it was a neighbor that called it in not sure which but the representative said that they called every day for a week straight they blatantly lied saying I am running an auto repair business and dump oil on my property as well as work well past 10pm almost ever night when I'm never out past 8pm

Some people need to get a life

damn straight. I had a fence I kept my 65 behind on the side of the house, but if we ever needed to move anything big into the back yard I had to push the truck out. bam, every time, compliance officer would leave a note. no idea who was calling. when I finally took it to a shop I happened to come home that day for lunch and he was looking over the fence from my neighbors yard telling her "well its not here now". I couldnt believe it was her the whole time, I told the compliance officer the next time he stuck his head over my privacy fence, even with her permission, he was going to pull back a stump.

[Nut Case]

Val

Go to where the ticket came from and file an appeal.

Ask for the name of the person that accused you, ask for a hearing date.

Try to use the system to get legal reasons to buy time.

Get a copy of the regulations and study them to find a legal reason to stop the process

If possible move the truck into the garage out of site.

Take the tires and rims off making it had to tow.

I know in a decent world this should not happen, unfortunately there are knotheads that enjoy causing others gas.

Good luck

Nut Case

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Got my ignition switch all wired up last night along with headers and gaskets done next step is getting my timing tab on (pull the balancer) and get the alternator sorted out next major hoop is the cooling system

Small bummer was that my starter tested bad so I ordered a new gear reduction off of Febay from SkipWhite not the time I wanted to do that

[Valarius_Starchaser]

So guys we need a quick answer here I have two aluminum radiators and the larger of the two being out of a 800 series 1/2 ton truck is massive to wide and sits on my frame rails I am fully confident it will cool the motor but I'm worried I will break it if I actually use it long term and send coolant everywhere

The other I believe is out of a Ford Taurus or free star can with a V6 that is much smaller fits better but I'm very concerned in its cooling abilities

You guys know what I need can the small one do it should I risk the big one or find something else all together?

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Smaller one here

[lower50's]

I'm sure the small one will cool it unless your on the gas a lot. My rad I had made is about half the size the original cube van had and it works good.

[Valarius_Starchaser]

so when I got my steering shaft from the 95 jeep Cherokee to correct steering angle and get rid of the ever sloppy rag joint I found that there was a spline change so the new intermediate shaft doesn't fit my old gear so I have been trying to figure out what gear to use in place or if I can get a shaft adapter and lone behold I find A body guys swapping the 92-98 gear box into their cars (the mounting is the same for the X body I have) so I was inches from having everything I need hahaha a Saturday junk yard run is in order then

The hardest part from there is getting line adapters to make the lines I already have fit the metric gear

[Valarius_Starchaser]

Saturday morning I went out to the pick and pull and got a box out of the same jeep which had what appeared to be a low mile gear judging by how little rust and grime was on it but who knows

Its a Saginaw 800 box with the metric style spline other then that the bolt pattern and pitman arm spline is the same plus it has the same steering ratio as the SS Monte Carlo that was so coveted back in the day of 12.7:1 which equals 2 wheel turns lock to lock