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I have never been of the mentality to not "Use" a vehicle. be it a multi million dollar ferrari or a Yugo. These vehicles were meant to be used. going to goodwood and seing the rich flog on milliondollar exotic race cars is awesome.
Original stuff is Cool, dont get me wrong. but freaking out about someone "ruining" a vehicle that they own to do what they want with it... If you want original stuff, go save it. But dont bag on the people that modify stuff. If it wasnt for the aftermarket world the car hobby would be dead. Cause OEM will not produce the parts. Remember that. My truck is an Original 235 4spd SWB that was delivered in HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT ORANGE. How amny of those were made in 62? I would bet very damn few. but i put the newer suspension in it for driveability, put a 350 in it so it will drive highway speeds. i want to enjoy the pickup. not parade cruise it and have to trailier it everywhere because it wont go 50mph. I respect the original stuff, its fun to look at. and im glad there are people out there Saving them. but dont hate on those that Modify.
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Not even. Some of the mods showcased on this forum are way cooler than anything stock will ever be ... and with few exceptions, none of these trucks started out as anything other than another mass produced "tool". Cosequently, the overwhelming majority have been subjected to the regular cycle of abuse and repair, both inside and out many times over.
Occasionally though, one makes it out unscathed or even pristine. What was one OF a million, is now one IN a million. In other words, it's rare. So, when a true "survivor" surfaces only to be treated with indifference, it's a bit sad. It's not a sacrilege. It's not a sin. But it is kind of a waste of what time has spared all these years. Wouldn't you agree? Last edited by oem4me; 08-03-2015 at 03:19 AM. |
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Surely I'm not the only one with a stock six that can go faster than 50mph? Last edited by plainred65; 08-03-2015 at 05:48 PM. |
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My son and I drove a 1973 Chevy C10 with a 250 CID straight six that had the worst rings I've ever driven. A quart of oil every 100 miles. Drove it all the way to Montana at between 70 and 75 most of the way. Yes, acceleration was a bit weak, to put it mildly. But as long as we kept oil in it, it kept up on the highway. Don't like 6 cylinder engines? No problem. Just own the fact that you do not like them. Statements like the above just make you look ignorant, which I don't really think you are. -- Smittie Last edited by Smittie; 08-03-2015 at 07:45 PM. |
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Here's what I'm asking. On the rare occasion when one of you that likes to modify, comes across a well preserved, low mileage survivor, do the other side of the house a solid. One of us old fogies will pay you more than you bought it for, hell most of us will help you find a replacement vehicle to boot. Just let us keep the survivors. Because once they have been modified, that's it. It's gone forever. It will never be original again. -- Smittie |
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It is difficult to title a thread to include all the theory behind it's intention. We all have a tendency to drift from the original theme.
I appreciate more as I mature to see the benefits of preserving the past,and as mentioned, am disappointed when you see for example, a truck that was carefully preserved all the years in it's original state, only to be sold to someone with a different point of view. But then, I don't have the cash to rescue a Gem from the past nor the ability to preserve it as we deem some things should. AS stated above HATING on those who modify is the same as HATING on those who trailer their vehicle, who use them only in parades, or lock them away preserving their all original status. This thread is not intended for those who modify. It's intention is to get a snapshot of how things actually were. To much hearsay at times on the forum of what and how things were. Guilty to this as well. Blah! Blah! Blah! do what you want, but, realize someone else is doing the same. Someone on this forum gave some great advise, if you don't like a thread, you don't have to read or participate in it. I like this thread, for it's original intention. OEM4ME your actually inaccurate in your statement above, there were not millions produced every year. Each year had some exclusive details not seen in the next or previous. That's part of what this thread is all about. There are only a few members on this forum who appreciate correct facts and figures, and fewer who use spell check and edit.
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I like this thread for the reference factor. if I want to know how it was factory I come here and do some digging.
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Everyone needs to chillax a bit. I didn't mean to start a pissing match and I don't expect everyone to agree with my opinion about what should happen to vehicles seemingly as rare as this one. I never "hated" on modified trucks. In fact, I dig 'em... when they're done well (e.g. Delmo). It's hard to argue that these trucks don't look good lowered.
I was just making a point about this particular truck. I don't believe every low-mile truck or vehicle is inherently special enough to merit preservation. But this one sure did. Just one guy's opinion. Take it or leave it. I suspect most people who follow this thread probably see it my way and those are the ones I was really addressing with my comments. Like oem4me said this guy took that gold truck from one-in-a-million to one of many (and the numbers of modded trucks are growing every day). Different strokes, I guess. I realize weirdos like me are often swimming upstream around here with that point of view. Speaking as a resident curmudgeon, I've never understood what's wrong with a 50 year old truck topping out at 50-55 mph. That's how these trucks were designed to work so why should we expect anything different from them? If someone's looking to fly down the interstate at 75 they're barking up the wrong tree with 1960s trucks. I, for one, love these trucks as they were designed moreso than for what they can be "Frankenstein-ed" into (although that can be cool, too!). By the same token, who's to say a person can't "enjoy" a truck that's trailered and parade cruised? I'd love the opportunity to find out! It's not really my thing but I believe there is a certain pleasure in it for lots of people. But I would never trailer a nice survivor like that gold truck. It needs to be driven. It's not going to hurt it. Just be careful and don't rack up the miles! Sorry... I don't mean to belabor this. But I think it's kinda fun to hear different perspectives on the more philosophical and ethical aspects of this hobby. Hope you do, too.
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I just want to say this thread is in valuable to people doing stock resto's. I can look at pics and see what bolts, colors etc to use.
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I was 24 when I got my 1st "classic" truck an all original 65 suburban (which I just bought back from my brother after selling it to him a few years back ). This was back in the early 90s when these trucks were far from collectible and seemed to be scrapped more often than sold. The original patina paint was still there with most of the rare suburban only parts. I was heavy into off road back then and planned to convert it to 4x4 but after going over it I realized it would be a shame to hack such a nice survivor. I started a mechanical restoration using as many NOS and OEM parts I could find and used it as my daily driver as soon as it was reliable. What I found troubling is everyone told me I HAD to paint it because the two tone dark green/white was soooo 60s, isnt that the point? I always heard I HAD to slam it and C notch the rear, that would mean no camping or hauling stuff, NO WAY! Get rid of that 4 speed and slap in an auto was another common comment, NEVER!! Ill say it was difficult to hang around any young dudes as modification was all that they understood and would dismiss someone keeping it stock. Occasionally an old guy would grill me to see what my plans were and I would surprise them with the word "preserve". I drove that truck daily for 5 years and wore out a few sets of tires along the way and had a ton of fun and use out of the old girl.
Now that we are reunited some 20 years later I have driven her around a bit and realize more work needs to be done. Ill keep with the stock rehab as much as possible even though the wife said PAINT IT. Im glad to see Im not the only one that wants to drive AND preserve these old work horses, just wish more youngsters would appreciate them for what they are not what they could be. Here is a pic after all the talk. This was the last pic I took before selling it to my brother back around 97 or so, I loved camping in this thing a lot and cant wait to do it again! Last edited by RedRoad; 08-04-2015 at 01:04 PM. Reason: add pic |
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Nice story and truck RedRoad, hopefully you can find some more pics of the Burb.
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That's my Sons fault ! He doesn't want me to remove anything. Theres a car show today and hes driving it over there as we speak so I got busy yesterday and did a quickie on it. Not as many holes as many Ive seen. Everything on the cab will stay, but bumpers and all the stuff in the bed are going when I get time. This thing really runs nice .
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a quickie? that baby would be awesome in a small town parade!!!
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Quickie POLISH , wax , there LePimp , get you mind out of the gutter LOL
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Not enough . Maybe 10 miles since It arrived.
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Here's one I have had for the last few months 1963 C10 36,000 miles 230 3spd on the column, no rust appears to be original paint and all in all its in good shape and a nice cruiser
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