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**Advanced Design** · 10-01-2014, 09:35 PM

Works of art! Is that powdercoat?

Nice pool table too!

RockTonka · 10-01-2014, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

That looks awesome!!! I have to say I love the tach pod and want to say thanks for sharing that tip! That is sweet! I may have to buy some of those dimple dies. That sure is a fast way to add strength to a bracket or panel.

Cool DW!! Glad to give something back to the site. Be careful though, the dimple dies can be addictive...

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Originally Posted by Kim57

Looks great.
I love all the dimpled holes.
Kim

Thanks Kim, your constant support is very cool!!

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Originally Posted by rgunlock

That gauge panel looks awesome - you're killing it!

Thanks Rick, I'm anxious to start reassembling already!!

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Works of art! Is that powdercoat?

Nice pool table too!

Very nice of ya AD, thanks! The finish is a black hammer tone powder coat. We were initially wanting a black silver vein finish but it was a little too light and would not have had the UV resistance that the hammer tone did.

**Dan in Pasadena** · 10-02-2014, 12:07 AM

I would have ever thought of that powder coat on the gauge panel but it looks great.

RockTonka · 10-02-2014, 12:32 AM

We kinda struggled with whether or not to powder coat that panel. I ordered it black anodized and liked the look, but we made a snap decision the day after we dropped the other parts off to go ahead and coat it also...figured that if nothing else, it would at least match!!

ChuckDriver · 10-02-2014, 12:35 PM

Wow, looks amazing!!

RockTonka · 10-03-2014, 01:58 AM

Thanks CD!

Started the tear down for body work and paint...

Kim57 · 10-03-2014, 08:36 AM

Congrats.
That's a big step towards completion.
Kim

RockTonka · 10-03-2014, 11:40 PM

Yea, it kinda was. I'm looking forward to bolting everything back together...for the last time!

Not much to add tonight, stopped early and took the family out to dinner. We did build out a simple dolly to roll the cab around on, stout enough to climb all over the cab, load on/off trailers, etc...gonna be on this until the cab goes back on the chassis.

**Advanced Design** · 10-04-2014, 06:26 PM

Nice cart! Looks like a 57 Chevy in the background. Another project?

What color for the cab? Everything is looking really good!

RockTonka · 10-05-2014, 02:05 AM

Thanks AD, the cart is working good!

My son picked up the 57 as a possible project, but it's going to need more work than we want to undertake. Great parts car or even a project for somebody more familiar with it than we are. He's got it up for sale.

We had been thinking of keeping the 58 white, but have decided to go to a light silver on it.

RockTonka · 10-05-2014, 03:23 AM

In its prior life, the front fenders/inner fenders/cab had been welded together in a couple different spots in addition to rusty areas being poorly repaired and covered up. It's solid on the surface but kinda ugly underneath in areas.
If we had another cab/front clip, we would swap this one out...but we don't, soooo, we're going to move ahead with this one, patch where we need to and make the best of it for the time being.

Since the front clip was basically permanently attached to the cab, we thought we should finish the job.

While we're finishing out welding/smoothing the firewall/inner fenders we are going to fill most of the front clip seams...starting with the inner to outer fender seams.

Kim57 · 10-05-2014, 10:28 AM

That's a lot of welding.
I've seen a couple trucks at shows with the fenders welded to the cabs.
They look pretty good without the seams.
Kim

RockTonka · 10-06-2014, 01:41 AM

Yea, there was a little bit of welding...there was a lot more grinding though!!

I did the welding, my boy did the grinding/smoothing!

RockTonka · 10-06-2014, 01:46 AM

We wanted to keep part of the original straight six on the truck and came up with this cowl panel...

RockTonka · 10-06-2014, 01:48 AM

Bit more smoothing and it'll get the same black hammer tone powder coating...

michaelt55 · 10-06-2014, 04:00 PM

you certainly have the touch for great accent detail....the hammer coat really will set it all off...

Kim57 · 10-06-2014, 08:36 AM

That's slick.
Kim

ChuckDriver · 10-06-2014, 12:45 PM

Very cool!

**Dieselwrencher** · 10-07-2014, 06:26 PM

Nice work on everything! Those filled seams look killer and so does the upper fire wall plate.

RockTonka · 10-08-2014, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim57

That's slick.
Kim

Thanks Kim, we had fun with this piece!

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver

Very cool!

Thanks CD!!

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Originally Posted by michaelt55

you certainly have the touch for great accent detail....the hammer coat really will set it all off...

Thank you Michael! I hope there's enough contrast to still see the detail after powder coating.

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Nice work on everything! Those filled seams look killer and so does the upper fire wall plate.

Thanks DW, we've got more seam filling work coming...kinda fun

RockTonka · 10-12-2014, 03:49 AM

Scott (Scotts62 here) came by to help us replace the cab corners

He's going to be painting the truck for us

RockTonka · 10-12-2014, 03:56 AM

We'll smooth it out a bit tomorrow...

**Advanced Design** · 10-12-2014, 08:52 AM

Great progress. The left side looks like positioning tabs were added to help line up the replacement panel? Might just be how the photo looks on this Ipad....

**Dan in Pasadena** · 10-12-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RockTonka

Scott (Scotts62 here) came by to help us replace the cab corners

He's going to be painting the truck for us

Maybe I missed it; apologies if so. What color is planned? Can't wait to see it.

(A LITTLE part of me would like to see it Tonka truck hard gold/yellow) but itd probably look better long term in another color.

Kim57 · 10-12-2014, 10:27 AM

Looks good.
Always nice to have some experienced help with that kind of stuff.
Kim

10-01-2014, 09:35 PM	#1
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,028	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Works of art! Is that powdercoat? Nice pool table too! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

10-02-2014, 12:07 AM	#3
Dan in Pasadena Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 6,339	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project I would have ever thought of that powder coat on the gauge panel but it looks great. __________________ '55 Big Window Shortbed, Drive-It-&-Work-On-It slid down the "slippery slope" to a Frame-Off Rodstoration! LQ4/4l85e/C4 IFS/Mustang 8.8 rearend w/3.73's Dan's '55 Big Window "Build" - Well, Kinda!

10-02-2014, 12:32 AM	#4
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We kinda struggled with whether or not to powder coat that panel. I ordered it black anodized and liked the look, but we made a snap decision the day after we dropped the other parts off to go ahead and coat it also...figured that if nothing else, it would at least match!! __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-02-2014, 12:35 PM	#5
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,629	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Wow, looks amazing!! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

10-03-2014, 01:58 AM	#6
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks CD! Started the tear down for body work and paint... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-03-2014, 08:36 AM	#7
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Congrats. That's a big step towards completion. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

10-03-2014, 11:40 PM	#8
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Yea, it kinda was. I'm looking forward to bolting everything back together...for the last time! Not much to add tonight, stopped early and took the family out to dinner. We did build out a simple dolly to roll the cab around on, stout enough to climb all over the cab, load on/off trailers, etc...gonna be on this until the cab goes back on the chassis. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-04-2014, 06:26 PM	#9
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,028	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Nice cart! Looks like a 57 Chevy in the background. Another project? What color for the cab? Everything is looking really good! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

10-05-2014, 02:05 AM	#10
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Thanks AD, the cart is working good! My son picked up the 57 as a possible project, but it's going to need more work than we want to undertake. Great parts car or even a project for somebody more familiar with it than we are. He's got it up for sale. We had been thinking of keeping the 58 white, but have decided to go to a light silver on it. __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-05-2014, 03:23 AM	#11
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project In its prior life, the front fenders/inner fenders/cab had been welded together in a couple different spots in addition to rusty areas being poorly repaired and covered up. It's solid on the surface but kinda ugly underneath in areas. If we had another cab/front clip, we would swap this one out...but we don't, soooo, we're going to move ahead with this one, patch where we need to and make the best of it for the time being. Since the front clip was basically permanently attached to the cab, we thought we should finish the job. While we're finishing out welding/smoothing the firewall/inner fenders we are going to fill most of the front clip seams...starting with the inner to outer fender seams. Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-05-2014, 10:28 AM	#12
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That's a lot of welding. I've seen a couple trucks at shows with the fenders welded to the cabs. They look pretty good without the seams. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

10-06-2014, 01:41 AM	#13
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Yea, there was a little bit of welding...there was a lot more grinding though!! I did the welding, my boy did the grinding/smoothing! Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-06-2014, 01:46 AM	#14
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We wanted to keep part of the original straight six on the truck and came up with this cowl panel... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-06-2014, 01:48 AM	#15
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Bit more smoothing and it'll get the same black hammer tone powder coating... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-06-2014, 04:00 PM	#16
michaelt55 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Richmond, Texas Posts: 67	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project you certainly have the touch for great accent detail....the hammer coat really will set it all off...



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10-06-2014, 08:36 AM	#17
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project That's slick. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

10-06-2014, 12:45 PM	#18
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,629	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Very cool! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

10-07-2014, 06:26 PM	#19
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10-12-2014, 03:49 AM	#21
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Scott (Scotts62 here) came by to help us replace the cab corners He's going to be painting the truck for us Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-12-2014, 03:56 AM	#22
RockTonka Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 1,524	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project We'll smooth it out a bit tomorrow... Attached Images __________________ 1958 Chevy 1 ton dually 4X4 dump/flat bed My build thread 1966 "Not-So-Original" Chevy Custom Trim Suburban My Time-Killing Project Truck 1966 GMC Extended cab 1 1/4 ton 4X4 My Son's build thread

10-12-2014, 08:52 AM	#23
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,028	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Great progress. The left side looks like positioning tabs were added to help line up the replacement panel? Might just be how the photo looks on this Ipad.... __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

10-12-2014, 10:27 AM	#25
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project Looks good. Always nice to have some experienced help with that kind of stuff. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

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