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Old 09-04-2014, 01:01 AM   #401
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

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That came out really nice and the skim coat would maybe be a hint of some filler, if that.
Thanks AD, I was thinking about powder coating that piece with a silver vein black...probably just back up and paint it white like the rest.

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I love the dimples you're doing. Looks real good.
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Yea, I can't look at a flat piece of metal without thinking...damn, that needs some holes in it!

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panel looks good rocktonka
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I don't think these trucks came with radiator support rods??, but the core support had some angled holes at the upper, outer edge that started me thinking.

They really don't need the support, but I've always thought they looked kinda cool.

Sooo, I cut down and dimpled a piece of 2" angle for a firewall plate, welded a couple Al. tie rods together, and bolted them into those holes on the core support...straight bolts at the core support and heims at the firewall.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:53 AM   #402
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Those rods are a nice detail.
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Old 09-04-2014, 12:32 PM   #403
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

they do look good.
my 59 3800 1 ton has them, i thought they were standard on 1 ton and up.
all the core supports are the same and have the angled holes for the rods.
i believe the engine hump has dimples in the cab where they were drilled out when making a 1 ton

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Old 09-05-2014, 01:57 AM   #404
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

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Those rods are a nice detail.
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Thanks...makes me want to run without a hood!

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they do look good.
my 59 3800 1 ton has them, i thought they were standard on 1 ton and up.
all the core supports are the same and have the angled holes for the rods.
i believe the engine hump has dimples in the cab where they were drilled out when making a 1 ton
There ya go, I searched and googled trying to find pics or references to rad support rods...nothing. Thank for the insight!
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:19 AM   #405
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

now i'm curious
look at your engine hump and see if yours is dimpled for the rods
iicr i filled the dimples on truk
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Old 09-05-2014, 08:53 PM   #406
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

My 58 1/2 ton has core support rods factory. I dont have any pics of them on the truck. It is tore apart
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Old 09-06-2014, 09:39 PM   #407
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now i'm curious
look at your engine hump and see if yours is dimpled for the rods
iicr i filled the dimples on truk
Sure nuff, Ogre! Our firewall is dimpled, but not drilled out.

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My 58 1/2 ton has core support rods factory. I dont have any pics of them on the truck. It is tore apart
Interesting, I wonder why some got em, and others didn't??
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:37 AM   #408
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Not getting much done, but still knocking out little things here and there...finished out the firewall/pedal/column mount support and fit in a engine oil cooler up front.
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:31 AM   #409
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

The support looks really good! What dimension steel is that?
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Old 09-14-2014, 11:32 AM   #410
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Very nice stuff.
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Old 09-14-2014, 01:33 PM   #411
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

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The support looks really good! What dimension steel is that?
Thanks AD! We used some 1 1/2" x 1/8" angle for the support.

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Old 09-14-2014, 02:06 PM   #412
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks Rocktonka. Do you use dimple dies similar to these?
http://www.mittlerbros.com/mittler-b...mple-dies.html
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:31 PM   #413
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Similar AD, but I use this set from Barbed Wire Offroad in TX...4140 material with a center hole so you can use a bolt instead of press if needed.

http://www.shop.barbedwireoffroad.co...3-4-2-8001.htm

Compare the pricing...bang for the buck, it's hard to beat!
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Old 09-14-2014, 06:23 PM   #414
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Thanks for the link RockTonka! Yet more tools I want....good value for their set.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

We were kinda struggling with where to dump the exhaust and came up with this approach.
Cut up a section of 4" tubing, slash cut the front and capped off on the back, welded some brackets to them that bolt up high on the rear of the box.
We'll run the exhaust between the frame and box into holes cut at the rear of the "tips".
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Looks good.
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Old 09-17-2014, 03:01 AM   #417
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks again Kim!

My boy and I both like a tach up on the dash but the matching one to our gauges only came in a 3 1/8" OD. There's only one dash mount cup made for that size tach and it's plastic and expensive.

Soooo, we had a local exhaust shop stretch a section of 3" tubing out to 3 1/8" ID...nice, slight, press fit for the tach.

We pie cut the back side of the tubing, hammered it into shape over a ball hitch, welded it up, and smoothed it a bit.
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Old 09-17-2014, 03:15 AM   #418
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Our original plan was to smooth all the welds and make a nice, perfect, little, round, end to the cup (it's going to be powder coated a black silver vein...all the interior pieces we're making will be), but then it would look like we just bought it somewhere.

We decided to leave the seam welds exposed so that you knew it was homemade. If I would have figured that part out initially, I would have laid prettier beads!

Anyway, made a simple mount for the cup and bolted it to the top of the dash.
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Outstanding!
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Old 09-17-2014, 07:13 AM   #420
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Man that big block sure likes to rev ,for a work truck that is. Lol. Looking good . As usual.
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That's great looking.
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Major cool! Very well done! Great idea too...love your welds.
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:49 AM   #423
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Outstanding!
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Man that big block sure likes to rev ,for a work truck that is. Lol. Looking good . As usual.
Thanks 6BT! We're gonna try and keep it from getting that rapped out!

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Major cool! Very well done! Great idea too...love your welds.
Appreciate that AD!!
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Old 09-18-2014, 09:24 AM   #424
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You never cease to amaze me with this truck.
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Old 10-01-2014, 01:46 AM   #425
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks Jeff!

Not much to add, pulled the bumper to add some traction details for when we've got to climb up and check the oil or something
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