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Old 05-09-2015, 06:56 PM   #1
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Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"

Nice tools mine is for insulated crimps . If you can get a tool for a good price I would by it you can never have to many tools . Even when the truck is finished I bet if you give it some time it won't be long before you are restoring or building something else .
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Nice tools mine is for insulated crimps . If you can get a tool for a good price I would by it you can never have to many tools . Even when the truck is finished I bet if you give it some time it won't be long before you are restoring or building something else .
I talked to my dad and he says we can make both crimpers and save me some money.

So today I covered the firewall with Peal n Seal. Then I installed the inner fenders. Next I installed the fuse box with the custom mounting plate in the kit that bolts to longer upper inner fender bolts they supply in the kit. Pretty trick. I had to file the holes on the plate just a tad to make it go on both bolts but it came out great. Next I put the core support and battery tray. The wife snapped some pretty cool shots of the boys helping and hanging out.

20150510_153643 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

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The kit came with these cool insulated clips that mount in the factory holes.
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Cool shots the wife took

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Youngest helping put the core support bolt on.

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This shot is freaking awesome!
11263130_10204302413461336_1613154913897313992_n by bjohnson388, on Flickr
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That's KOOL to see the little guys lending a helping hand....
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Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"

Truck is looking great! Awesome that the little guys are helping out. My boy loves helping me in the garage. Great feeling for sure!
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Good job with both the truck and they boys. Always take the time to give them a little fun. Congrats
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Man BJ! That's awesome!
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That's Awesome, especially getting the young ones involved...
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Looking really good Bret . Getting the boys trained will pay off later . I learnt so much from my dad when I used to help him as a boy . As I'm sure you did
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That is way cool your boys helping you. Wish I could have afforded it back then. Its a good way to get them interested in our Habit.......I mean in maintenance...!
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Looking good Bret! Mine would have gone a lot faster if I had all that help. It doesn't look that hard just hard to get to. Perfect time with nothing in the cab. I pieced mine together and I am down to the under dash harness and all are replaced. I guess I'll do it when I get the vintage air system. What crimper are you looking for? I might have it.
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Truck is looking good! And what memories you and the boys will share for a life time. Priceless
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Re: 64 C10 Stepside "Jaybird"

Bret

Here is a few links to a crimper that I use. I was in the wiring department at a previous company I worked at, while the tools AAW had to rent are the premium hand crimp tools, these can be used with very good results. I have a set and have done a few cars with them and they work well. For terminals with the crimp on the wire and one on the insulation, it requires you to do them separately, but does a good job. You have to decide which "slot" to use for the wire size you are doing, but that is no big deal. I have bought from Waytek before and they are a good company. There are other places to get them too.

http://www.waytekwire.com/item/419/T...EL-CRIMP-TOOL/
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Man BJ! That's awesome!
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Those photos really bring it all together Bret.

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Looking good Bret! Mine would have gone a lot faster if I had all that help. It doesn't look that hard just hard to get to. Perfect time with nothing in the cab. I pieced mine together and I am down to the under dash harness and all are replaced. I guess I'll do it when I get the vintage air system. What crimper are you looking for? I might have it.
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Bret

Here is a few links to a crimper that I use. I was in the wiring department at a previous company I worked at, while the tools AAW had to rent are the premium hand crimp tools, these can be used with very good results. I have a set and have done a few cars with them and they work well. For terminals with the crimp on the wire and one on the insulation, it requires you to do them separately, but does a good job. You have to decide which "slot" to use for the wire size you are doing, but that is no big deal. I have bought from Waytek before and they are a good company. There are other places to get them too.

http://www.waytekwire.com/item/419/T...EL-CRIMP-TOOL/
http://terminalsupplyco.com/Store/Pr...?pc=OBT-1028CT
http://crimpsupply.com/packard-delph...pack-tool.html
Thanks guys for all the great comments. I really enjoy having my boys around the shop and hopefully it will be great memories and plant the seed. I grew up in my Grandpa's machine shop and around all his cars, and trucks and boats. I have very found memories of working with him and learning about everything from painting to woodworking.

John I am looking for the Delphi Packard F type terminal single and double crimpers.

Aggie91 thanks for all the great links. Still researching and trying to figure out what to do. At this point I really want to buy my own.
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Let the madness begin...

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That really, really looks good!! Have fun with the wiring. Just take your time and take brakes when you feel like it is never going to end. That way you won't get burnt out or make mistakes. By the way did I tell you that it is really look'in good.

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Have fun with that wiring man. lol Be sure to let me know all the secret hiding spots you found for the wiring.
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Loving it and the madness!!!
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X2 on the previous comments...

and the look...
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Will do T.J. I plan to document the whole wiring process as I have had to piece together a lot of stuff from different websites and threads on here.

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Well I just ordered me some crimpers from Amazon. I did a ton of research on crimpers and open barrel 56 series Packard terminals!!! My brain is fried! I know for sure the crimpers I bought will do single crimping not sure about the double crimps I need to make. If they don't work I will just rent the double crimpers from AAW as I don't have that many double crimps to do.

Also for anyone interested in cool electrical stuff download the hot rod catalog on the right of this page from AAW. They have a lot of cool stuff. They have the door jamb switches and they even have a courtesy light delay switch. How cool.

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I really like the idea of their "intelligent fuses" that glow when they blow out. I'm going to need a set of those eventually!
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I saw those. Why didn't they think of that before.
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When you say double crimps, do you mean that the wire strands are crimped to the terminal and then there is a crimp of the terminal around the insulation?

If so, the single crimp tools can do that. Just crimp the wire strands first then do the crimp on the insulation. The economy tool that I linked earlier is what I used and does the job well. I have not had an issue with any wires that I have done that way with that tool.

Thanks for those links, I think the rowand one will be helpful down the road...
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When you say double crimps, do you mean that the wire strands are crimped to the terminal and then there is a crimp of the terminal around the insulation?

If so, the single crimp tools can do that. Just crimp the wire strands first then do the crimp on the insulation. The economy tool that I linked earlier is what I used and does the job well. I have not had an issue with any wires that I have done that way with that tool.

Thanks for those links, I think the rowand one will be helpful down the road...
No the double crimps are 2 wires in one terminal. Most of the double crimps are the smaller wire not sure what gauge but hoping the slot on the crimper for 10 gauge wire will work for double crimping
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Update...

Spent all day Sunday wiring. Even though my pictures don't really show the work. I was very picky about where the wires ran and being organized.

So on the engine harness I started with the 3 wires running to the starter. Two reds and a purple. One of the reds was a heavy 8 gauge that runs to the Alternator. The other red and purple went inside to the starter switch. I routed them all together and close to the block to keep them away from the header and put 3/4" convoluted tubing around them. I would have run 1/2" but it wouldn't contain the 2 big fusible links on the red wires.

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So I came across the back of the engine and the big 8 gauge wire came out to run up to the Alternator. I ran the other two to this top firewall grommet as I all I had planned for here is the oil pressure line and it is very close to the plug on the dash harness. I ran 1/2' convoluted tubing for these 2 wires down to the 3/4" and taped together.

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Here are those 2 wires. My first and second crimps. Not too bad. The Crimper was adjusted a little tight so I loosened it one notch.

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Here is the big red 8 gauge wire along with the brown wire from engine harness running to alternator. I used some 1/2" rubber insulated clamps bolted to the valve covers to hold in place. I also ran the hot wire for the electric choke in this tubing which is 3/8" back up to the firewall. I will crimp a male terminal on it and insert it into the engine harness. I removed 2 wires from the engine harness plug I didn't need. The Oil sending unit(since I have gauges) and the other was for alternate temp w/cold light.

20150517_182226 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

So in this pic you can see the engine harness coming down from the left and the pink and white wires are for the ignition and I ran the green temp wire behind the driver valve cover and down the side. Going to attach it with rubber clamps as well to the valve cover.

20150517_182207 by bjohnson388, on Flickr

In this pic you can see the green wire on the driver side. I didn't cut any of the tubing yet it looks like a mess.

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I pulled the MSD box, Distributor, coil, and wires from my Caprice to run in the 64'. I painted the cap black to look more like stock. I need to paint the coil black as well and clean up the wires. I originally was going to mount the box under the dash, but have since decided to either mount it under the battery tray or on the other side of the core support behind the battery. Will have to mock that up and see what fits best. The reason I choose to not mount it inside was because I would have to run 4 wires through firewall and I don't want to drill any holes.

One last thing. Here are the crimpers I bought. They work really well except for that 8 gauge wire was to big for them so I had to crimp it best I could and them some solder to make sure it was solid.

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