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~ Now Off To A Birthday Party, I hate stopping like that midway through, but sometimes life gets in the way! ~
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Re: Restoring Rusty
well after attending three birthday parties this weekend it was time to get back to work on the truck
I made one mistake in terms of making my own spark plug wires I should have tested the wires for resistance before cutting and building them MSD makes two types of wires (that I know of) their high end Super Duper Conductor wires RATED AT 50 OH MY GOSHes per foot and their cheaper ones called the Street Fire RATED AT 500 OHMs per foot (we got the Street Fire ones) hold on to that thought ... but all is not lost, just wanted to give you that tip |
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so after The Greg made all his 8 wires this is how they tested in terms of resistance, now keep in mind the magic number is 500 Ohms per foot
#1 - 26" long scored 5,600 so 2,584 Ohms per foot - BAD NOTE: 22" and 26" are standard generic universal wire standard lengths, so four of the wires I made were sort of a wasted effort |
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here's a picture of #8 and it shows that the problem was not with my crimping but even after I cut the crimped ends off the wire still read high
Note how the Multimeter is set to 200K Ohms that's 200 thousand, so 200,000 is the scale, so 50.3 x 1,000 = 50,300 Ohms |
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now I never made my own spark plug wires before so I decided to cut them in such a way that if things went South I could maybe recover by being able to make another wire from the part of the long wire that I cut off
so for example if I had to make a 22" wire I did not make it out of the 31" one but I used the 55" instead that way I could make two 22" wires out of it if need be, follow me Vern? anyway this way I had enuff wire to make another 22" wire for #8 also MSD threw in 3 extra crimp ends so I was golden this time when making the wire I tested along every step of the process so cut the wire to length and test it crimp one end and test it crimp the other end and test it and it turned out good, it now reads 948 so 517 Ohms per foot - GOOD Last edited by Gregski; 07-12-2016 at 02:30 AM. |
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I also made a new #5 wire though its now only 32" long but with some creative re routing it works, it reads 1322 so 495 Ohms per foot - GOOD
Note: I had to remove and reuse one of the crimped ends but taking my time I was able to pry it off with a small flat screw driver and a 12oz can of Bud Light Last edited by Gregski; 07-12-2016 at 02:31 AM. |
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hey look fellers if I am going through all the trouble of making my own wires I do want them to be perfect you know what I'm sayin'
so I think I have enough wire to make one more 26" one, to replace #1 and I will use the extra coil wire they provided to make a new #2 wire it is also 26" I think I will be giving MSD a call tomorrow, interesting that they included such a card along with their product, hmmm makes one wonder how many "difficulties" people had with their product you know what? 50% failure rate that ain't too good! Last edited by Gregski; 07-12-2016 at 02:32 AM. |
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Wow, that's not good! Makes me wonder if their pre-cut sets are within spec...or any other brand for that matter.
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Mine are MSD Street Fires like yours, so I just went out and measured them. Only did five wires due to attack of laziness.
nos 1 and 2: approx 1.9K (They are the longest, so this makes sense) nos 5 and 7: approx 950 ohms no 4: 1.45K So, I'm gonna call mine good until I get motivated to do the remaining three. It's hot out there! Will probably have to make new wires when I install headers, so will go with better MSD or Taylor wires then. For what it's worth, I read where brand new carbon core wires have 10K ohms/ft resistance or more.
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The MSD Heli-core wires come with this type terminals. Not that they would have solved your problems, but they make for a better crimp than folding the conductor down between jacket and terminal. Unfortunately they don't seem to make Heli-Core sets anymore, so the next step up is insanely expensive Super Conductor sets. Hello Taylor Spiro Pro!
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OK, I just rebuilt the #2 spark plug wire and the resistance went down from 5400 to 967 so 483 Ohms per foot - Outstanding
and I also made a new # 1 spark plug wire and it went down from 5600 to 985 so 492 Ohms per foot - Spot On well the good news is I can now build spark plug wires in my sleep, ha ha Last edited by Gregski; 07-13-2016 at 01:39 AM. |
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fellow truckers just wanted to give you a quick update on what The Greg has been up to, check it out last Thursday was a 50% Off sale at the local Pick N Pulls, so I found this 1977 with some goodies on it
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so although I was broke I scrounged up some moneys to get a couple things
1. I bought a manual steering box if for nothing else to use it as a core trade in for when I buy a brand new one. I paid $40 bucks for it and the core trade in value is $150 so I should come up ahead on this. yeah still considering the power steering to manual conversion (like an idiot, I know) glad this was an easy pull cause it was over 100°F by the time I got to the yard, it was so hot the metal wheel barrel handles that they loan you were burning my hands |
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a little rant about Pick N Pull pricing scheme, so say you want a steering box like I did, ok so you do a little research and you look up the price and it's NOTHING, cheap, ok, then you go there and you pull the part and you go to pay for it, and this is how it goes
oh, is this from a car or a truck, oh a truck ok well its that much more oh it still has a pitman arm on it so that's more for that oh do you have a core to trade it, no, ok so its $10 bucks more for a core charge ok, than there's some BS disposal fee ok than there's taxes blah blah blah mind you $40 was the 50% off price so otherwise I would have had to pay $80 for this piece of junk |
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2. I found this Hurst 3 speed shifter so I bought it, for the stick mostly, I paid $15 bucks for it, if the transmission was a 4 speed it would have come home with me too
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so for now these things go in my Git To It Sum Day Pile - GTISDP, along with the new(ish) seat, clutch radiator fan, and what ever I have already forgotten about... I'm sure you know how that goes - but gentlemen The Greg is still having fun so its just a matter of time as it always be
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Door Weatherstripping
Door weatherstripping showed up from Classic Parts, I hope to get these on this weekend, I forgot to buy the special glue / adhesive from them so I hope maybe one of youz can recommend the proper one to use, thanks
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3m 08001. comes in a tube like rtv silicone. is yellow and slimy looking but once sticks is stuck. commonly referred to as gorilla snot around my area.
they also make it in black if you don't want yellow part number 08008
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so then it was time to excavate the old weather strip off of the driver side, it too had the optional (not available till 78) rubber on the door itself - I am not going to install that one unless absolutely necessary "I want to keep the stock as original as possible" [ahem] pronounced I'm cheap! ha ha
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anywho, it is worth noting that the yellow stuff (part # 08002) comes in a 2 oz tube and costs about the same as the black stuff which comes in a 1 oz tube (part # 03602) also notice all the ways on the right Permatex got in the game too with their Super Weatherstrip Adhesive looks like its about half the cost of the 3M (pronounced: stay away from it, cause I bet its half as good) now I aint splitting hairs here folks I am just trying to give you a report from the field, as it is a jungle out there, so wear a hat and sun block, hee hee and don't jump in the pool until 2 hours after you ate (any of youz old enuff to recall that nonsense) any of you still tell yer kidz that, ha ha |
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sorry part numbers i gave you were for the 5 oz tubes. seriously doubt you would need that much.
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i was a little taken back by how long the door weather strips are, they are about 13 feet each, wow
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