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Sub-versive · 01-17-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Minis

Looking awesome.

Keep it up!!!

tdave00 · 01-17-2010, 10:43 PM

Serious attention to details on those gauges. Great job.

Mil-Spec · 01-18-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Hey there Mil-spec. First, Thanks

Second, why would anyone switch from Air Force to Navy???

Other functions of the PCB. Yes, I plan to build a board to remote mount many of the indicator LEDs and LCD.

I will mount the PCB high under/behind the dash inside the plastic enclosure. It has fairly flat front/back covers. The front cover includes the Acura gauge faces that no one will see.

The 9-pin DSUB connector (often used for RS-232) mounted to the board is not the one shown in the vice with soldered wires (that's the gauge side). The one on the board has crimped/inserted pins and a plastic section/pin-housing protruding from the back side, which is what comes close to touching the PCB but is actually held off the board by the stand-offs.

I'll get some close-up shots of that for ya.

[QUOTE=Frizzle Fry;3738211]Here you go Mil-spec. What do you think?

Looks good. Please I hope you don't think I'm being too anal. I really like what you're doing a lot and don't want you to have any problems. I work in development, prototyping and PCB design, so my kids can eat

(by no means an expert though)

The only immediate potential issue I see is where the standoffs interface with the PCB. The solid green areas where the standoffs are resting on are copper plains. I have no idea without looking at a schematic, if the 2 planes are electrically the same, or what. You could trace the plains back to a component with an exposed solder joint and using an Ohm meter, see if they are the same potential or shorted to each other. If they are NOT, then the metal standoffs and metal connector case would provide a shorting path from one plain to the next if the solder mask were to be comprimised. Couple things you could do (if you want), replace the stand-offs with a non-feris type or plastic hardware. Or isolate the existing stand-offs with a material like mylar or some sort of plastic sheet under them. (I like to use old coffee can lids because they are flat and can be trimmed to whatever you want. ** also as expoxy forms because the 2 part I use won't stick to it**).

Another possiblity might be to locate an appropriatly sized enclosure to house the PCB (Mouser or Digi-Key or some similar online place). With the PCB ridgidly mounted, you could use panel mount I/O connectors mounted in the enclosure itself and that would help protect the board from Vibration at the connection points. If grounded properly, then from noise as well(I didn't even want to get into injecting noise in the plains). Depending on the enclosure selected, might make easier to install in the Minx.

Hopefully that wasn't too Nerdy. I you need more clarification, let me know.

I had fun in both services

Frizzle Fry · 01-19-2010, 12:24 AM

Too nerdy???

We are well beyond that!

Thanks for the suggestions. The the holes I put the standoffs in were pre-existing with metal screws holding the needle actuator at that position. I think I'll take your advice and add some plasic washers anyway.

Mil-Spec · 01-19-2010, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Too nerdy???

We are well beyond that!

Thanks for the suggestions. The the holes I put the standoffs in were pre-existing with metal screws holding the needle actuator at that position. I think I'll take your advice and add some plasic washers anyway.

No prob.

If that is the case, then it maybe that the 2 plains are the same potential and you'll be fine. It's hard to tell, not having the board in front of me. What your doing looks sound, I was just looking at it from longevity stand point if you planned to drive it hard or AutoX the car, but I'm sure you'll baby it like a Grandma right?

Hopefully not with the redline that engine has.

(I've breifly entertained the idea of mating a Honda engine to the transaxle in my wife's Corvair)

Regarding your LCD package, are you planning on desoldering it and relocating or getting another display and jumpering onto the thru-hole leads on the secondary side of the board?

Slick17 · 01-19-2010, 11:38 AM

Man I have to say. That thing is awesome. Great job.

Frizzle Fry · 01-19-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mil-Spec

No prob.

...if you planned to drive it hard or AutoX the car, but I'm sure you'll baby it like a Grandma right?

Regarding your LCD package, are you planning on desoldering it and relocating or getting another display and jumpering onto the thru-hole leads on the secondary side of the board?

It will be autox'ed and driven hard

The LCD contacts are just pressed in so it's easy to remove. I am planning to simply solder leads between the back of the board and the LCD contacts with another DSUB arrangement in between.

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Originally Posted by Slick17

Man I have to say. That thing is awesome. Great job.

Thank you!

Mil-Spec · 01-19-2010, 09:06 PM

I look forward to watching your progress. I'm curious how do you plan to resilkscreen the Tach?

JRBECK64 · 01-19-2010, 10:31 PM

Frizzle,
I didn't know they made a Chevy Sunbeam!!! This thing looks like its going to fly.
JRBECK64

Frizzle Fry · 01-20-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mil-Spec

I look forward to watching your progress. I'm curious how do you plan to resilkscreen the Tach?

Gauge shops can do it. Here's one example.

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Originally Posted by JRBECK64

Frizzle,
I didn't know they made a Chevy Sunbeam!!! This thing looks like its going to fly.
JRBECK64

You can make anything a Chevy! But this one has zero Chevy blood. Well, I did use a section of Chevy inner fender...

ed2552 · 01-21-2010, 12:19 AM

Umm, wow is all I have to say. This car is going to be one of a kind, and friggin amazing at that. Good luck with the rest!!!!

Frizzle Fry · 02-01-2010, 10:30 PM

Thanks Ed

I've made some serious progress with the DS inner fender and frame rail. Same deal as the other side so I'll post pics when it's further along. I did get the itch to ditch the honda logo and VTEC lettering from the coil cover. Here's the direction I'm going with it (script is just sitting on there for now):

VA72C10 · 02-02-2010, 12:07 AM

Nice!

dammitmitchell · 02-02-2010, 12:21 AM

sick sense of humor.. but i like it!

nuke1 · 02-02-2010, 12:29 AM

Frizzle, that car is coming along nicely, way prefer the sunbeam wmblem over the V=TEC emblem. i SURE WISH THAT I NEVER SOLD MY s-2000 now. I had plans for it but needed the money. darn it. Darn caps lock also. to lazy to fix it.

watahyahknow · 02-02-2010, 02:13 AM

looks realy nice even kindof era correct maibe you be able to find a metal oilcap too or make a sunbeam medalion over it

Mil-Spec · 02-02-2010, 12:51 PM

Really nice touch with the emblem. Any other thoughts on giving the engine a Sunbeam retro look?

kyull67 · 02-02-2010, 01:03 PM

Nice!!!

Frizzle Fry · 02-02-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mil-Spec

Really nice touch with the emblem. Any other thoughts on giving the engine a Sunbeam retro look?

Yeah, wherever possible. ITB's would be a nice, yet expensive, touch. I'll probably do some satin black on some parts too. The valve cover itself will either be satin black or body color. Get rid of the plastic fuel rail cover, etc.

thor · 02-02-2010, 03:59 PM

The 'Sunbeam' script is waaay better looking! Nice touch.

Mil-Spec · 02-02-2010, 07:41 PM

FF I'm sure whatever you do will be epic as with the rest of the car. The only reason I asked was the oil cap looked Fugly when next to the Sunbeam script.

But now that you mention it a pair side draft Webers style TBs would look choice

Frizzle Fry · 02-02-2010, 09:09 PM

Good call on the oil cap. I'll have to find something better...

watahyahknow · 02-02-2010, 09:56 PM

one of those round metal ones should fit nicely ......... sumtin like this one : http://www.kreidlerdatabase.nl/Afbee...egraaf%205.jpg (this is a gascap of a moped ) might be one on the original motor that came out the car , might be nice to cadmium plate some of the realy small parts too that gives the metal a greenish brass colour , they do that kindah stuff to carburators linkages a lot

jb1016 · 02-10-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

It took a lot to get that bezel on there, but it was worth it. There is no lense in the pics. I need to have one cut because the fuel gauge lense was too small. I still need to mod the needle to resemble the others and get rid of the dolphin logo.

It's the little perfectionist touches like this that keep me hooked on your build threads, FF. The script on the valve cover is a nice touch too.

Frizzle Fry · 02-10-2010, 08:40 PM

Thanks man!

I did some more clean up/wire-tucking on the engine. Permenantly afixed the sunbeam script (was just posed in the previous pics), and finally got the right length serp belt to run with A/C delete.

Most importanlty, the frame rails are 99% done! Just a bit of clean up left to do and I'm on to the rest of the build.

01-17-2010, 10:43 PM	#427
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01-19-2010, 12:24 AM	#429
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Too nerdy??? We are well beyond that! Thanks for the suggestions. The the holes I put the standoffs in were pre-existing with metal screws holding the needle actuator at that position. I think I'll take your advice and add some plasic washers anyway.

01-19-2010, 11:38 AM	#431
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01-19-2010, 09:06 PM	#433
Mil-Spec Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... I look forward to watching your progress. I'm curious how do you plan to resilkscreen the Tach? __________________ SEMPER FORTIS U.S. NAVY 97-05 USAF 94-97

01-19-2010, 10:31 PM	#434
JRBECK64 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cornelius Oregon Posts: 1,073	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Frizzle, I didn't know they made a Chevy Sunbeam!!! This thing looks like its going to fly. JRBECK64

01-21-2010, 12:19 AM	#436
ed2552 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charles City IA Posts: 1,626	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Umm, wow is all I have to say. This car is going to be one of a kind, and friggin amazing at that. Good luck with the rest!!!! __________________ '67 C20, Under the Knife!, LWB, Eaton HO-52, Rear Coil Springs 72' GMC C2500, 350, TH400(?), Dana 60 '67 K10 4-spd., 305, SM465, Dana 44, 12 Bolt, RUST! '65 C60 292, 4 spd, 2 spd Rearend, 15' Grain Box, MINT! 09 Yukon Denali 82k Miles 6.2L/6A

02-01-2010, 10:30 PM	#437
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Thanks Ed I've made some serious progress with the DS inner fender and frame rail. Same deal as the other side so I'll post pics when it's further along. I did get the itch to ditch the honda logo and VTEC lettering from the coil cover. Here's the direction I'm going with it (script is just sitting on there for now):

02-02-2010, 12:07 AM	#438
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02-02-2010, 12:21 AM	#439
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nuke1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,: Posts: 2,901	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Frizzle, that car is coming along nicely, way prefer the sunbeam wmblem over the V=TEC emblem. i SURE WISH THAT I NEVER SOLD MY s-2000 now. I had plans for it but needed the money. darn it. Darn caps lock also. to lazy to fix it. __________________ James 1968 GMC "HAVOC" 1986 GMC "Frank" J.J.R.H. Design & Consulting My 68`Rebuild "HAVOC": http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=316300 A 58' chev build thread: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=311238 1969 Camaro Pro Touring http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...61#post3513361 Swiss Cheese: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=384390 Adjustable Trailing Arm How-To: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=321100 1968 Ford Farm Truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6555587

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watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... looks realy nice even kindof era correct maibe you be able to find a metal oilcap too or make a sunbeam medalion over it __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts Last edited by watahyahknow; 02-02-2010 at 09:52 PM.

02-02-2010, 12:51 PM	#442
Mil-Spec Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Really nice touch with the emblem. Any other thoughts on giving the engine a Sunbeam retro look? __________________ SEMPER FORTIS U.S. NAVY 97-05 USAF 94-97

02-02-2010, 01:03 PM	#443
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02-02-2010, 07:41 PM	#446
Mil-Spec Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 109	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... FF I'm sure whatever you do will be epic as with the rest of the car. The only reason I asked was the oil cap looked Fugly when next to the Sunbeam script. But now that you mention it a pair side draft Webers style TBs would look choice __________________ SEMPER FORTIS U.S. NAVY 97-05 USAF 94-97



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02-02-2010, 09:09 PM	#447
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Good call on the oil cap. I'll have to find something better...

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watahyahknow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: the netherlands europe Posts: 4,335	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... one of those round metal ones should fit nicely ......... sumtin like this one : http://www.kreidlerdatabase.nl/Afbee...egraaf%205.jpg (this is a gascap of a moped ) might be one on the original motor that came out the car , might be nice to cadmium plate some of the realy small parts too that gives the metal a greenish brass colour , they do that kindah stuff to carburators linkages a lot __________________ i got a job again and having fun at it too idea's for the trucks and the order of things to do are taking shape and get closer to being realized , a few more months and i be able to start building for real i complete 2 of the trucks intoo running fashion one custom and one basicly stock the thirth will be sacrificed for parts Last edited by watahyahknow; 02-03-2010 at 11:58 AM.

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Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: '66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs... Thanks man! I did some more clean up/wire-tucking on the engine. Permenantly afixed the sunbeam script (was just posed in the previous pics), and finally got the right length serp belt to run with A/C delete. Most importanlty, the frame rails are 99% done! Just a bit of clean up left to do and I'm on to the rest of the build.

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