My own build thread

[McMurphy]

Man that is a cool video dude!! So happy you finally got to put it on the road. When the video started I was all jazzed for you, then the thought occured...."Man, I hope this doesnt end with a tow truck...."

Sorry to hear about the head gaskets, I hope those are not warped on you. Seems you are having all the challenges with that engine.

I hope to maiden voyage mine in the next week or so too !!

Good luck with the gasket swap !!

[1963c-10]

Originally Posted by dinos63

first drives are always the best congrats!!

x2!!!!!

[zippeay]

I swear this truck is cursed! Or maybe it's me, either way it isn't fun. The heads need rebuilt and they are stock crappy truck heads. I spent 2 days looking for new heads and bought some only to realize I didn't check to make sure they had accessory holes drilled and they don't .

So... I spent $50 bucks "I actually got a good deal on them thankfully" but I still can't use them.
Hopefully I can find some slightly better heads and get them rebuilt. I really wish people would just be honest about things "referring to all the problems with the motor" This is beyond ridiculous...

I've learned I will most likely never buy a "rebuilt" motor again. I've never built a whole motor but I'm sure that I couldn't screw it up any worse than this guy did...
Alright I'll stop complaining, if I can get my heads back this week hopefully it goes together and I can drive it for more than 10 miles!

Thanks everyone, I sure wish I was out enjoying it right now but it will have to wait a little longer. I just hope this fixes everything and I can have fun for at least a few weeks "or more".

[Modges'66]

Oh Dude!
I feel bad that you are having all of the difficulties with your motor!
On the brighter side, you are probably learning a lot in a short amount of time...
But it must feel like trying to take a sip of water from a fire-hose!!!!
Things WILL get better!

[zippeay]

Midges66, thank you. Ya, that is how I'm looking at it. I'm actually kicking myself for not building the motor myself. I haven't built a motor but after doing all this I'm pretty confident that I could do a decent job.

Oh well, next time I will do it all myself but for now hopefully once this issue is resolved i won't have any more issue.

I found a decent set of heads today and they are fully rebuilt and the guy bought the other heads Or what I paid for them, I really lucked out there! Nothing super nice just some 993's with Z28 springs and .194 valves but for my mild build it should work fine. I also ordered a 268 comp cam and some ARP bolts and all nice felpro gaskets.

I was told this was a 300 hp motor but there's no way with stock truck heads and a stock grind cam... Hopefully the cam and these heads wake this thing up a little! It won't win any land speed records but hopefully it has a little power. I figured if I've gone this far I may as well make some minor improvements.

Hopefully I can get everything together by next weekend "the story of my life... Haha"

[zippeay]

Here's what I've been doing
Put the new cam in, new heads, intake, replaced all the seals and head gasket with Felpro gaskets. This better work or this motor is going to be used for target practice...












Hopefully tonight I can get the rest buttoned up and I'll try firing it up tomorrow and pray to the hot rod gods everything works out... Haha! Oh man building cars is fun...

[Modges'66]

Good Luck!
Crossing my fingers for you!

[79azc10]

Looks good. , love the old school triple carb set up

[Captainfab]

Just be sure to use a good breakin additive and follow the cam breakin procedure to the 'tee', no comprimises. And you will want to use either a flat tappet cam compatable oil or regular oil with a ZDDP additive thereafter. Otherwise you will be using that engine for target practice.

[Ta2Don]

Looking Great!!!

I too dig the 3 deuces...

[zippeay]

Thanks everyone!
Captainfab - thank you for the advice! I have friends that build cars a lot and they told me about the additive as well. I used the Lucas stuff when I first fires this up and have more for when I put oil back in it.
I'm about 95% done putting everything back together. I just have to add fluids and bolt the exhaust to the manifolds.
Hopefully within the next few hours can get everything finished and try to fire this up and pray everything works correctly... I'm pretty nervous to say the least...

[1963c-10]

Engine looks great....love the tri carb set up and really considering it for my 348 build.

[McMurphy]

Dude, after the surprisingly non-issues identified maiden voyage of my truck I have been on the edge of the seat waiting to see what happens with yours !! I am sorry you had so much trouble with that motor, but it looks like you rebounded with exceptional determination from it.

I may be in the envy zone again here real soon if this turns out the way I think it is going to for you !!

Thanks for stopping by my build, your encouragement means a lot

[siggyfreud]

Cam break-ins are my least favorite thing . Have some fans ready to keep that thing cool, as the break-in will likely have you running a few RPMs without the benefit of wind speed helping to cool the motor.

[zippeay]

I got everything back together and took it to a show for Vets with PTSD, pretty neat show!

Unfortunately now the motor runs way too hot... It ran about 200 and slow crept up to 230-240... I've home through absolutely everything on the cooling system and either replaced it or flushed it out and nothing is helping... I'm so frustrated... I even reset the timing to make sure that wasn't the issue, no matter how much we retard or advance the timing it still gets hot. Nothing leaks but it won't stay cool.
The only thing I can come up with is that something may be wrong with the new head gaskets... I really hope that isn't the issue but We've done everything else.
Here are some pics of the show

[Lowl!f3]

Make sure the thermostat isnt upside down. And your right about suspect head gaskets if evrything checks out unless hair line fractured head.. I have seen gaskets that block water ports or restricted them.
Also another simple thing to check is to see if your lower radiator hose is collapsing even if its new.

This may sound totally stupid but worth saying. Make sure the fan is pulling the right way and the water pump. Next is the right fan for the drive train. Dont know how much of a difference this makes. But when you go buy one at the auto parts they have different ones for the gearing. And fans with blades the other direction. Sounds dumb and can be overseen.

What size bag you put in those plated lowers? Looks like a 2500?
C notch???? No way bro. Thats a Step notch and a nice job making it!

[McMurphy]

what he said !!

Hope you get it figured out, over heating sucks.

[Captainfab]

You might try a different water pump. You may have gotten one for a serpentine drive by mistake. Those rotate CCW.

[zippeay]

I GOT IT! For some dumb ass reason I decided to stick the stock mechanic fan blade on and it works great. I just drove for about 45 mins and it didn't get above 160-170. Stupid Champion electric fan is junk!
I almost went postal a couple times, I've spent so much time trying to figure this out but I never thought this was the solution. I don't even have a shroud on... I don't know if that fan isn't working right but the stock fan pulls 100x more air... I'm pissed that the fan sucks but I'm so happy that I get to drive it now I almost don't care... Lol
Thank you all for all the comments and suggestions, I still have a lot to finish but this was a very cool step.

[Ta2Don]

[chad64chevy]

glad to hear you got it figured out! I was starting to get pissed too, lol!! been there before, I spend over $300 for relays and other stuff for the wife's Tahoe (wouldn't start) just for it to be the fuel filter, the last thing I did before I was about to give up, and the cheapest, lol!!

you have done a wonderful job on the truck, good luck and hope to see another video to hear the new cam,

[Bomp]

Those pics are Swaeeeet.
Been following along on FB and that little smart phone screen doesn't do your truck justice.
Glad to hear things are way cooler now.
Can't wait to hear the new cam rumble and see it in motion.

[KJSR]

Crappy eletric fans have kicked my butt before too. I ended up buying a SPAL and it was a night and day difference. Glad it's getting closer!

[zippeay]

Thanks everyone! One of the local C10 guys around here gave me a fan shroud. It was kind of hammered but I spent all night plastic welding it and cutting it to fit. It was either for a different year or something because it was much larger than my stock radiator but I think it will work.




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Sorry for the crappy pics it was late and I was trying to get it done so I could drive it in the morning. I cut about 6 inches out of it and used the scraps to make the side pieces. I still have to make brackets to mount it correctly, I original made plastic tabs but they just wouldn't hold not matter how much I plastic I added to them.

[Ta2Don]

Looks good Brother!!!