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Did you ever replace inner/outter tie rods?
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Another question might be: Were the wheels balanced before or after Boppa changed brake parts? I'd almost be willing to bet the tires weren't balanced right, or, not to the correct spec.
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After, I think. I know we just did the new wheel here recently, but we had a whole different set of rims on in that period. Got all new Brake hoses, bearings, seals and rotors last night. We shall see. Tierods check out good, using the cheater bar test. that's the only thing that hasn't been replaced.
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Okay, so you've had different rims on it and it still vibrates. Were all of the rims balanced from the same shop? I thought I had read in your thread that you had the wheels balanced and then soon after Boppa went in and changed the brake parts due to noticing the vibration. I said I'd be almost willing to bet because I'm not a gambling man. Just need to determine what happened or changed right before he worked on the brakes. The only thing I noticed that you had written up was the balancing to .5 and asked if it was kosher or not.
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I mentioned previously that when I was chasing the problem with mine, I set up a little experiment...
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Did nearly the exact same experiment both in my garage and on a lift at the trans shop. Couldn't find any major throb at target speed. Nothing like indicated on the road, anyway. After the wholesale rearend swap, and continuing throb which was reduced with the new shocks and a bit of the throb feel now in the steering wheel, I went forward. Was this road force balancer at the NTB on 169? I may try that as well.
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Went back and read some more. Copy/Paste the turn of events.
![]() 8-28 It's ALIVE! Messed with TV cable and got it to shift beautifully. Ran up and put gas in it and got out on the hwy and ran uP to 80 ish. Runs real nice! 8-31 Had boys out last night in it, tires are smoothing out, it'll be a nice hi way cruiser. Settled in good at 75-80 9-2 burbling along at 82 mph, no problems. We may get to drop it yet, we think due to the frame straightening the alignment is wonky, but not terrible. 9-4 Boppa went to have the tires balanced and found a bent rim! 9-22 the front brakes won't release. Boppa has done new bearings and rotors and bled the fronts. I think the prop valve is stuck. 10-1 Boppa redid the brakes, and he thinks the bearings were just too tight. 10-15 Biggest issue is a Throbbing vibration at around 60-65. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did Boppa get into an accident he's not telling you about? Maybe your aluminum cab bushing spacers are transfering vibration to the cab. .. all I got
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Thanks for the timeline. No accident, same truck all these years. At Least it'd give me an excuse! The last 2 posts of the timeline have lead me to where we are today. Floaty feel seems to have cured itself, but we've still gotta get it aligned. Early vibes were just tire buzz, no biggie. The throb is enough to shake your beer gut in time with it. Brakes/bearings seemed to check ok, but who knows. Thanks for the recap, been kinda wanting to do it myself. I am intrigued with the Road Force balancing. Jeep Dealer, eh? Might make a coupla calls. This weekend may be a bit crowded to get rolling on this, but I'll give 'er a shot. I've still gotta get it reassembled and aligned.
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Hmm, come to find out there's one literally around the corner from Boppa.
KC Complete Auto Service 451 NE 94th St KANSAS CITY, MO 64155 Phone: 816-454-6000 Approx. 18 miles from your location. We'll have to see.
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Im sitting here trying to figure out what would cause a vibration only under the full weight of the vehicle but not on a lift, that is interesting, im going to have to think on this awhile.
What was the result of checking the ballance of the front rotors? Im sitting here thinking to myself wouldnt it just beat all if this ends up only being a poor wheel ballancing job? Last edited by Xeen; 01-11-2013 at 10:33 AM. |
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Welcome to my world. The dynamic load is what's driven me to the front end.
Tried to do that, guy says they can't get them on the machine. Machine shop guy is down to balance them for $25 ea. OReilly's swapped the rotors out for me. Called the shop, they're down to align it. The balancing with the road force is $25 a wheel, this better be one smooth mother! The guy says it really works wonders. Posted via Mobile Device
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Props to Litew8 for the run down! Elco is a great contributor to this site so it's cool to see some cheese going his way. Vic's post was great too! You guys rock
![]() I'm hopeful that the alignment shows something that was overlooked and can be easily corrected.
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"The aluminum spacers are mounted in a sandwich between the urethane body mounts" right
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I know, I saw the pictures. Metal on metal (frame/spacer) instead of metal on rubber, or rather, harder urethane. It's just a guess.
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Hmmmm... Ok, so I got out in the shop this morning intending to pop the rotors back together and change brake hoses. Admittedly, I had just whipped the brakes apart and run for it, it's been a busy week. So, I had just left everything dirty and gone.
So, today I get meticulous. I get started cleaning the spuds on the spindle up and find a lot of wear on the passenger side. Now, there's a bit of wear that you can kinda feel on the driver's side, but the passenger's has a step in it. By rough caliper measurement, it's .008 smaller top to bottom and .oo4 side to side than the rest of the shaft at the outer bearing surface. Hrmmm... Gonna have to hit the yard, methinks. The new bearing goes right on the used drop spindles I have on the shelf, nice and tight, no rock. Pretty sloppy on this one, a little wiggle on the driver's. So, we'll see. At least I found something funky. Maybe one of these funky things I fix will be the one! Wide shot-you can see the wear area. Tried to get a close up of the underside- that's where the step is. Sorry it's bit fuzzy, but you can see the step in the shaft. We'll have to find a good'un!
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Keep eatin', it's too damn cold for me to try the yards today! Schnikies!
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Ok well I can tell you for sure that a tore up spindle shaft will cause vibration so I think you found the culprit, I dont know why but I assumed you were on new spindles so I didn't even consider that as a possible problem.
You dont have to go to the junk yard, call "Bobs Vintage Truck Parts" at 913-634-1697, hes in Lenexa and will hook you up, he has a huge selection and low prices, Tell him Brian from Topeka refered you. Last edited by Xeen; 01-12-2013 at 11:03 PM. |
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Is that the same side the bent rim was on?
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