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Old 05-20-2011, 12:39 AM   #1
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

The powder coater I use 2 coats about 95% of the parts, but they do it a little differently. They preheat the parts, pull them out and shoot a medium coat. Let the parts cool some, then another medium coat, and then bake them for about 40 minutes or so depending on the parts. Their powder always holds up very well.

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When I shoot chassis parts, I usually double up my coats. In my experience with my setup, I would shoot an even first coat, bake for about 12 minutes to flow the powder, but not fully cure it. Air cool, reshoot over room temp parts (hot powder will cause the second coat to be rough) then bake for about 20. The bottom layer will fuse with the top and the top will cure.

2 layers will not be heavy in the welds. I like to make sure my coats are even and details are visible. I don't like gloss frames, either.

I think that RAL-7042 will look awesome on that frame

A low gloss on a frame is the way to go IMO.......
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:21 AM   #2
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The powder coater I use 2 coats about 95% of the parts, but they do it a little differently. They preheat the parts, pull them out and shoot a medium coat. Let the parts cool some, then another medium coat, and then bake them for about 40 minutes or so depending on the parts. Their powder always holds up very well.
I tried a lot of different things and found when I shot the powder onto hot parts, the surface wouldn't be as smooth because of how some powder would melt on impact, then some would sit on top.

Greg, not to hijack your thread, but would you mind sharing the process you'll use for shooting the frame?
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:57 PM   #3
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

Man, that is going to set it off. You said you were shooting video? I look forward to that. I know how well it laid with my ghetto $400 powder gun, can't wait to see it shot proper like.
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

We carefully hoisted the C-10 frame onto the trolley system in our shop...it went into the stainless steel washer and washed with Fremont 621 phosphate wash, and rinsed. From this point the frame went into the curing oven to dry and get ready for the next step in the process. The Fremont 439 sealer can be applied hot or cold. This product works very well to also stop flash rusting.


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Old 05-23-2011, 05:07 PM   #5
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The frame came out of the oven hot, and we then sealed it with Fremont 439 sealer/ rust protectant. The frame will follow the path of the trolley system into the paint booth for a thorough coat of primer GR-533. I am the dude sitting in the shop stool, supervising !!!!!

Bryan Hernandez appling the Fremont 439 sealer... Jesse Hernandez and Tiffany " social media networking manager" Peterson working the video and camera.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:15 PM   #6
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

All necessary holes are plugged in the frame and start the hot flocking process into the speed holes. Soon the entire frame is coated with primer GR-533 and will move to the curing oven. Dain Schultz and Daryl Bouwman rocked the primer basecoat.
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:23 PM   #7
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This is the curing oven...these next photos show the hot flocking and this worked very well to coat the space between...and finally the frame complete, smoothly and perfectly primed!!!
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Old 05-23-2011, 06:13 PM   #8
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

Damn, can't wait to see some color! I only wish I had your shop! Nice work, that primer looks awesome.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:52 AM   #9
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That frame is looking very nice. You obviously have a first class powder coating shop. I'm anxiously awaiting to see some color on this frame.
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Today we will block out some areas... scuff the chassis... hot flock coat the speed holes... and give it the Tiger Drylac Ral 7042 topcoat.
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

What does the term "hot flocking" mean?
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applying the powder when the part is hot ( Hotflocking) ... for hard to coat areas it will melt on impact


blocking out the chassis now will be video taping this PM
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

I never had much luck hot flocking with my home setup. The powder didn't seem to melt fully and left a lot more texture than I was going for. Can't wait to see how that Tiger powder lays with that high speed gun you have.
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If it orange peeled ? you need to turn the gun down... added too much material. Did you do a powder mil. reading? We hot flock a lot of our parts because we specialized in big mass ( large) parts (a large heat sink) so you really cannot always wait for the parts to totally cool. .
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2010 Gema OptiFlex 100,000 volt. powder gun.
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looken good
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If it orange peeled ? you need to turn the gun down... added too much material. Did you do a powder mil. reading? We hot flock a lot of our parts because we specialized in big mass ( large) parts (a large heat sink) so you really cannot always wait for the parts to totally cool. .
You know, I never measured how heavy I laid powder other than by sight. I have a good feel for the amount. If I ever get a chance to start on my suspension, I will post up pics of everything in powder. My work is 75% cosmetic, 25% function. Powder, when applied well looks as good as wet paint without the upkeep.My oven is only 4x4x6
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This is the process for top-coating the C-10 frame...we sanded the frame down, and blew the dust off ... wipe down with wax and grease remover... tag rag off the dust and apply top-coat.
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The frame moved back into the paint booth where it got its final coat and headed into the curing oven...came out looking like glass. Tiger Drylac Ral.7042 gray 90 -95 percent gloss . You always get a good finish with Tiger products. We used about 4 lbs. of powder for the topcoat on the chassis and misc. parts.
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Wow, that looks incredible. Nice work, now get that pig back together!
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OK assembly starts Wed. AM Powdercoating inside of cab / roof /firewall soon .. maybe Friday.
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Quality work in those pics!
There are alot of powdercoaters should take a look at your process.
I wish you were closer to me,... so I could send you some business!
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Lolife99, We are working on a small parts powdercoating program. You ship it too Extreme .... we pay the frt. back to you via US Post office.
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Re: Extreme Powder Coating '65 C-10 Shop Truck

I want to see a shot of Nate's bridge in that color in the sunshine. Damn that frame looks so good.
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Going to have a little pinstriping done asap on the Porterbuilt bridge. Looks like we will have the rolling chassis at "Back to the Fifties" June 17,18,19, on display in the Extreme Powder Coating booth.
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