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Re: Crusty Rusty Leaky Squeaky 67 Step
With the floor pan resting in the correct location at the back of the cab, it was immediately obvious there's a mismatch between the outer edges of the floor and the bottoms of the A-pillars ...like about 1-1/2" total. The tunnel was bumped up against the brace due to planning two steps ahead instead of three or four. However, the fix was to make a bridge to clear the hump. I clamped it in place instead of welding it in case I need to spread the A-pillars. Right now I'm wishing I had the firewall back so I can compare the flanges where they meet. However, I don't recall there being a big gap at the bottom where the firewall meets the kick panels.
I did some research on the forum on installing a full floor, but most of the fitment issues were between the firewall flange and the floor, not that the floor was wider than the spread between the bottoms of the A-pillars. Will have to wait until the firewall is back to see what I'm going to have to adjust. (As in pie cut, hammer, port-a-power, heat, bend, curse and etc.)
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After a second look at how the floor fits between the A-pillars, I realized I wasn't nearly as far off as I originally thought. Fortunately, the driver side front lower door pillar had enough metal left to bolt to the new floor. There's a 1/2" offset where the bottom of the pillar meets the floor. This allows the lip on the front of the floor to match up to the edge of the firewall. Looks like I may still need to spread the A-pillars as much as 1/2", but I can't confirm that until I get the f/w back from the metal blasters. The passenger side lower door pillar is rotted completely out, so there's no reference holes to work off of.
Meanwhile, I repaired some rotted out areas on the L-brackets that attach the rear of the cab wall to the floor. Reinstalled the floor with the A-pillars spread out slightly. Measurements look fairly close, so now I just need to get the firewall in place and see how it fits to the pinchweld lip on the floor.
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Mixed up a small batch of the Glisten PC today and sprayed it on some test pieces. Not sure what to think of the results. Could be some of the issues are my own doing but not 100%.
First of all, the product literature I read before buying it said it needs a one hour inception time in a sealed container after mixing. However, the instructions on the can said it has a pot life of 3-4 hours and can be sprayed right after mixing. So naturally, I didn't wait the hour. Don't know if that had anything to do with the way it came out of the gun, but maybe. Seemed to like higher air pressure than I'm accustomed to using. Second, the product lit recommends spraying the cleaner on the bare metal, letting it sit for two minutes, then rinse and dry. I did this with one piece and not with the other to see if there was a difference. It looks like the piece with etch may allow the clearcoat to flow out a little better. However, both have a fair amount of orange peel. Third, it takes several hours for the surface to dry tack free. Since I don't have a booth, there were some dust nibs that settled on the surface. Not a big deal from normal viewing distance, but still aggravating. The way this stuff is supposed to dry, I doubt you can wet sand and buff it. Lastly, I also sprayed the polished cover I made for the fan pulley. It looked absolutely awful. Again, it probably was my fault as I varied from the procedure. After using the etch, I noticed some small spots I was afraid would be magnified by the gloss clear. So I re-polished the piece and washed it good with Dawn dishwashing liquid then rinsed and dried it. I reckon I should have used the etch a second time but didn't. The upshot is that on the polished surface, the clear had a very heavy orange peel and didn't want to flow out at all. After waiting about a half hour, I dipped the piece in thinner and removed all traces of the coating. You're supposed to be able to brush the product on and it will flow out any brush marks. After watching how it performs using a spray gun, I'd be skeptical of that claim. As of now, I'm back to researching products.
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I had some bare metal parts I wanted to clear on my jimmy. I actually made my own version of the shadow chrome by just adding a few drops of black tint to clear and spraying it. For prep I cleaned the parts with soap and water. Went over everything with fine steel wool and/or a 3M scuff pad to get off any old paint overspray, rust stains, etc. I cleaned everything up with automotive paint prep solvent. Let that flash off a while, then sprayed the automotive urethane directly on the clean bare metal. I did the grill and so far it has been holding up pretty well.
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Nice work on the cab floor there. Those clamps you have are sweet! Who makes them? I'm bummed about the POR product not being soo easy to lay out. You've obviously got a bit more experience with painting stuff than I do and if you had a rough go... You're surely going to play with it some more right?
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It's comin' along good, Vic! Sorry about your hassle with the new stuff!
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Thanks, Chip …nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say. Are you still working on the shuddering s-box?
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I think the Glisten PC might have worked better with a bit of reducer. I don't have the recommended solvent on hand, so I need to pick some up at the paint store. I'd like to be able to use it since it was sorta expensive. Weather has turned cool again, so it may be a while before I have a nice day to experiment.
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I sprayed it on there over a year ago and the grill sat outside next to my garage until I installed it after I got my paint done in August. Been driving it since then. So it sat exposed in a MN winter with dust and dirt settling on it. And for the other seasons, hot, cold, wet, dry, etc. No signs of peeling yet which was my biggest concern. I might have sanded it with real fine grit paper too before spraying but it's been so long I don't remember. Could look back through the thread and see I suppose.
I also sprayed the black border around my chrome steel replacement grill on my C-10. Since it was black though, I prepped by taping off the area to be painted then sanded with 320 grit, then cleaned, etch primed, and painted. Thats been about 1.5 years and a few thousand miles. I scratched it once. No other issues. And I also painted a chrome rear bumper doing a similar process. Talking to my friends at the body shop here they said as long as there is something for the paint to grip to it should be good. It doesn't have to be visible scratches. The bond is microscopic really. I figure worst case is removing the grill, strip it and respray it if it ever gets bad. Not really a big deal.
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If it didn't pop after all you exposed it to, it should be good for the long haul, I'd think. Thanks for the tip!
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Looking good Vic, I can't wait to see how the bed turns out. I don't think this is a stretch but you are one of the best fabricators I've ever seen. If you didn't have a project and I had a lot of cash I would want you to do all my sheetmetal repair. I don't mind doing my own, but your work is outstanding.
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The cut outs are going to be cool!
Aren't the O2 bungs kind of a standard deal that you could maybe pick up local? I thought they were a 14mm just like a spark plug? I suppose length might be a gamble without having the sensors in hand though. That whole deal is intriguing and I'll be anxious for the day you start your shake-down. I've been rounds and rounds with them Edelbrock carbys and always thought that setup would be the ticket. I'd have to use a hand held however. If I had two, permanently installed indicators, I'd be re-jetting all four corners every other day!
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I plan to use permanently mounted gauges, but I'm mainly interested in getting it close. Reading plugs is no substitute for real data.
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x2, Scott, your stuff looks great!
Oy Vey, Vic, that's a lotta wires. Good luck!
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Thank you Chip
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Sounds good Vic, here is my number 913-314-6233.
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Picked up the silver powder coated accessory brackets from Sure Coat in Sedalia yesterday. As always, their stuff looks great. Mounted it all up and took a snapshot to remind myself what it looked like with everything nice and clean. Also, still working on mocking up the exhaust system. Photo shows how the electric cutouts fit in the available space. One small curved piece of tubing should complete the driver side.
Dropped by Scott Duckworth's this morning and stood around in the freezing weather and talked shop. He's put together a nice inventory of parts for his Porterbuilt ride. Too cold to work today, though, for sure. Before I left, he donated a spare roll of EZ grind wire he had. Should have plenty to convert the long bed into a short one now. Thanks, Scott! I really appreciate it.
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Your welcome Vic, glad to meet you today. The engine and accessories look awesome!!
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Scott's good people. Dang, that's a good roll 'o wire! Can't wait to see what you do with it!
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Made some progress on my "recycled" exhaust system. Welded out the tubing from the shorty header flanges to the butt splice at the electric cutouts. Plan to use Walker Mega Clamps to join the 2.5" tubing to the cutouts. That way I can remove things easier later on if needed. Scuffed everything and painted with high heat aluminum paint which hid a lot of evil. Added two more rubber insulated hangers on each side to keep all the pieces in place.
I was concerned that the metric bolts holding the cutout butterfly plate assembly and the turn down pipe together might vibrate loose. Too hot there for Loctite and not any room for locknuts. Ended up drilling all the bolt heads for safety wire. The AEM wideband O2 kits are due in on Monday, so I can weld the bungs in and that should just about do it for the exhaust. With the mufflers and etc. final mounted, it looked like there'd be a lot of heat directed toward the fuel and brake lines running inside the passenger frame rail. Decided to go ahead and make an aluminum heat shield to protect them somewhat. Next trip to Sedalia, I'll take it along and punch some vertical louvers in it at Keith Daleen's shop. That should serve to vent any trapped heat behind the plate while still blocking the worst of it. Just in case I need to gain access to that section of the frame, I drilled and tapped 8-32 holes for stainless screws to hold the shield. After final assembly isn't the time to find out maintenance requires pulling the bed off.
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Looks real clean Vic.
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