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Old 01-09-2024, 03:34 PM   #1
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Re: What did you do with your truck today, Part 3

Since the holidays are over its time get to work on the truck.
MY "to do" list includes
Adjust valves - done
take valve covers and intake to powder coaters - done
remove exhaust & heat wrap
extend exhaust out under rear fenders
install power wiper motor
install heat & sound deadener in cab
install bear claw door latches
change ignition switch to one that has accy position.
change hood springs to struts
adjust alignment on front fenders

Ive had most of the parts for a long time.
what with snow coming and a heated garage, it's time for some fun.
Wish me luck.
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Old 01-09-2024, 03:36 PM   #2
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Re: What did you do with your truck today, Part 3

Since the holidays are over its time get to work on the truck.
MY "to do" list includes
Adjust valves - done
take valve covers and intake to powder coaters - done
remove exhaust & heat wrap
extend exhaust out under rear fenders
install power wiper motor
install heat & sound deadener in cab
install bear claw door latches
change ignition switch to one that has accy position.
change hood springs to struts
adjust alignment on front fenders

Ive had most of the parts for a long time.
what with snow coming and a heated garage, it's time for some fun.
Wish me luck.
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Old 01-19-2024, 11:49 PM   #3
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Re: What did you do with your truck today, Part 3

So I made some serious progress on the to do list.
Valve covers and intake are back from the powder coaters. Got up early and got them installed.
Got the electric wiper motor installed. It was a bit of a pain. Had to remove the glove box and the radio to give me room to work. Had to change the direction of the mounting bolts so I could get the nuts on. Hooked it to power and it works. Tomorrow I hope to make the final adjustments & get everything back together.
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Old 01-21-2024, 04:38 PM   #4
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Well, started to finish up the wiper motor install. I tried to mount the switch into the original hole on the top of the dash. It wont clear the motor. I wanted to keep the switch in the original location, but that doesnt seem to want to work. I guess I could find another location for the switch. Any ideas?
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Old 01-21-2024, 04:46 PM   #5
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Seems like many have issues with new electric wipers in AD's , Myself included. Off the wall idea but has anyone tried a standalone vacuum pump and reservoir to run the original wiper motor? Could serve to boost power brakes as well?
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Old 01-21-2024, 04:47 PM   #6
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OK now you’re scaring me nvrdone!
I do not have any helpful comments on that switch because you’re ahead of me.
What is scaring me, is I bought the Raingear wiper motor upgrade, planning on adding AC and defrost vents up in there, and on top of that, was planning on putting a double DIN modern screen and stereo in a custom hole where the radio speaker used to be PLUS the stock located switch.
All that and you’re just struggling finding room for a switch up there - you’re giving me the heebie-jeebies!
Can’t wait to see what kind of experience floods in from other members on this.
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Old 01-22-2024, 12:17 PM   #7
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OK now you’re scaring me nvrdone!
I do not have any helpful comments on that switch because you’re ahead of me.
What is scaring me, is I bought the Raingear wiper motor upgrade, planning on adding AC and defrost vents up in there, and on top of that, was planning on putting a double DIN modern screen and stereo in a custom hole where the radio speaker used to be PLUS the stock located switch.
All that and you’re just struggling finding room for a switch up there - you’re giving me the heebie-jeebies!
Can’t wait to see what kind of experience floods in from other members on this.
I have the Raingear setup and this style of switch ( included with the Raingear kit). It fits fine. I also replaced the ugly plastic knob with the stock style.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:56 PM   #8
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Re: What did you do with your truck today, Part 3

I have a very similar home brew wiper setup, but I used the original vacuum motor mount points and designed it to work with the original links and pivots.

I studied the raingear install, it puts the motor in a different location under the dash than I used, but there is a note about 'correct orientation points down'. That implies it might be possible to install it wrong?
Raingears sells a small switch and an intermittent version that is much larger - with no notes about fit problems with either.

Tempest67 - do you have the 2 speed raingear system with only one speed hooked up? raingear notes that you cannot use a GM column with their system
my experience is similar, I used a 2 speed 5 wire motor from a 2000s dodge RAM as it was small - it appears very similar to the raingear motor. a Toyota motor I had worked identical: you put power to L, H or park and that is how the aftermarket rotary switches work. my 80s GM column switch would not park this style of wiper without adding some relays -or wiring it as a single speed system. That column provides power to Park when the switch is in Low
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Old 01-22-2024, 02:30 PM   #9
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/wZgwPui6drxohaoNA

short video of it running a couple years ago when it was partially built. it is on the road and working now. With the near vertical windsield, all I usually need in summer rain is the lowest speed on the intermittent wipe control. Low speed for hard rain. high speed on the motor.....honestly if it was raining that hard I'd probably pull over

it looks a lot simpler than it is. This is after several iterations on the original design. When i started I thought it would be relatively easy, little measuring, little math-ing, cut weld and done. Wrong, I'm not as smart as I thought! The timing and lengths of each component are critical. I'm also not convinced that the OEM vacuum setup gave a full wipe on both sides.

I only have about $50 invested but probably a month of spare time. if I did it again I'd maybe use a single speed rear wiper or just spend the bucks and buy the after market stuff.
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Old 01-21-2024, 09:42 PM   #10
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In the stock switch hole, the switch hits the wiper motor. I decided to remove the cigarette
lighter and mount the switch there. Not where I wanted it, but it works.
The next step is to put the radio back in. It was mounted behind the center speaker grill with the grill tilting down. We will see if that works.
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Old 01-22-2024, 10:21 AM   #11
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Not sure if your truck is an S10 swap, but I used the stock S10 steering column and plugged the 1 speed wiper to the 'fast' wiper on the steering column harness. I figured the switch is already there, might as well use it.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:06 PM   #12
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I have wondered if a motor head could be taken apart, like the motor removed, then the gear head mounted in place and a remote mounted motor could be used with a small driveshaft up to the gear head. I know, there are some of these already built but they have a cable driven unit and, for me, I sometimes will drive when there is snow. eventually, when I get the project done....
my dash is far from stock since I am using a GMC envoy for a donor floor and firewall. I would like to use (will use somehow) the envoy wiper motor since it will have multiple speeds and pause etc. where I live the weather changes quickly so you just never know when it will downpour (or snow) so reliable wipers are a must.
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I have wondered if a motor head could be taken apart, like the motor removed, then the gear head mounted in place and a remote mounted motor could be used with a small driveshaft up to the gear head. I know, there are some of these already built but they have a cable driven unit and, for me, I sometimes will drive when there is snow. eventually, when I get the project done....
my dash is far from stock since I am using a GMC envoy for a donor floor and firewall. I would like to use (will use somehow) the envoy wiper motor since it will have multiple speeds and pause etc. where I live the weather changes quickly so you just never know when it will downpour (or snow) so reliable wipers are a must.
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Old 01-22-2024, 01:33 PM   #14
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Jweb: I have the raingear setup with that switch. Unfortunatly with that switch in the stock location the electrical plugs rub on the motor.
I dont plan on driving the truck if there is any chance of rain or snow, but if I get caught in a summer down pour, wipers would be nice. The other thing is our county sheriff department will stop older vehicles and if they dont have working equipment they will issue a ticket. I got stopped for only having one tail light. Fortunatly I had a wiring diagram that proved the truck only cane with one light so I got off with a warning.
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Jweb: I have the raingear setup with that switch. Unfortunatly with that switch in the stock location the electrical plugs rub on the motor.
I dont plan on driving the truck if there is any chance of rain or snow, but if I get caught in a summer down pour, wipers would be nice. The other thing is our county sheriff department will stop older vehicles and if they dont have working equipment they will issue a ticket. I got stopped for only having one tail light. Fortunatly I had a wiring diagram that proved the truck only cane with one light so I got off with a warning.
That's interesting. I don't remember any wires rubbing. I'll take another look.

I put this setup in for the same reason, getting caught in a down pour. I drove back from Bend,OR in a rain/ lighting storm back in 2022. I wasn't impressed by this setup but I got home.

Hoping to be up in your area in May, https://www.eastwenatcheewa.gov/185/...arade-Car-Show
Depends on weather.
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Got the automatic transmission column shift indicator pointer, that I modeled in 3D, back from my friend who has a 3D printer. (Sometimes I get so excited about the smallest things...)

My friend had yellow filament in his printer that day but no problem - I will paint the neck and head red. Gotta paint the other parts too, and reassemble everything. Its still a bit cold for painting, so that will have to wait for now.

BTW, I’d be happy to share the 3D file with anyone who needs that little pointer. These days, it is likely that everyone knows someone with a 3D printer, and this is a good alternative to buying one, if you can even find one for a reasonable price. (The last OEM one I saw on ebay, the guy wanted $85!) Just message me or email me with your email address.
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Old 01-22-2024, 05:28 PM   #17
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my system works great after a little adjustment. Had the truck sitting outside in the snow (don't shoot me for that) and the wipers cleared the windshield just fine in both speeds. I didnt drive it because I live on a hill and was afraid of getting back home.
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jweb: I'd like to meet up with you, but at that time we will be into about a month long road trip - not in the truck.
Going from Yakima to New Orleans with many stops in between. Should be fun.
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Thanks, jweb that is a relief!
Does the stock knob just fit right on the post coming out of that switch? Did you have to modify it?
That might be useful to me, but also to nvrdone if could help him to swap for this switch?
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Thanks, jweb that is a relief!
Does the stock knob just fit right on the post coming out of that switch? Did you have to modify it?
That might be useful to me, but also to nvrdone if could help him to swap for this switch?
I don't recall having to modify the knob. It's been about 5 years but it seems like it went right on.

I'll take a look when I can get to my truck, my garage is a mess right now.
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I'm using the knob that came with the kit. I'm going to try to drill & tap a factory knob. But that's for later
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So I continued working on the wiper install. I found that the bottom of the knob hit the top of the wiper motor which caused me to think about a possible short or fire. So I made a 1/4" spacer out of some scrap ABS. It fits between the mounting bracket on the cab and the motor giving enough room that the motor doesn't touch the switch. after testing the operation I find the arms to the wipers rub on the windshield defrost vents. So tomorrow I can tweek them and hopefully this project will be done.
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Hey guys, back on my 5 minute a day plan in 2024! Tack welded these pieces on the hood last night.




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does going out to the pole barn count?��
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it does if you thought about your truck, if there are truck parts out there, if there used to be truck parts out there, or if you went out there by mistake cuz you were thinking about your truck. haha.
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