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mikep · 02-04-2003, 10:07 PM

I know what skylines are and they look like crap. Ugly styling. They might be somewhat fast but thats about it.

AC ? thats when you pull the lexan window down!

Comfortable ? Theres nothing more comfortable than solid motor mounts and racing seats.

Big69C20 Toy · 02-04-2003, 11:25 PM

ty, i'd love a ride in that ty of yours. And for you old schoolers who love the big muscle of the v8, any of you ever thought that if GM had some sense for a racing type truck/car they'd make an AWD pickup or car. You may think AWD is a crutch for underpowered but those Sy and Ty trucks will eat most of you up and lots of them have more power, see what they'll do.

Dont get me wrong, i love a BB and a nasty blower but for driveability you cant much beat turbochargers on a motor. I dont care what displacement the motor is, turbos are more behaved than a supercharger anytime.

Look up some serious power vehicles, tons and tons run turbos, and many run turbos with their superchargers.. lots of options fellas. AWD i tend to think is a great thing, especially for the racing most of the AWD cars do, but even on the strip AWD will grab and pull hard more often versus lifting a front end (waste of power), or breaking tires loose and smokin' em like you do with HUGE HP v8s and such.

Ok i'm done hehe either way everyone's got a pick and a favorite, just dont be so rough on the ones in the "other" column, a li'l of being open minded might save you your proverbial 'lunch' from being eaten by someone.

mikep · 02-04-2003, 11:34 PM

All I know is... I laughed all the way through "The Fast and the Furious".

The thing about AWD's ( lets just call it 4 wheel drive eh ) is you have something called weight transfer. Simple physics. That 4 wheel drive is still gouing to transfer weight to the rear when drag racing and when that happens the front wheels will lose traction in a big way . See any real drag racers using 4 wheel drive ? Theres a reason for that. Big HP motors and rear wheel drive are able to go faster than AWD in the quarter because of weight transfer not in spite of it . The AWD car is going to lose traction to the front if it doesnt break parts and or lose control.

Mike

Big69C20 Toy · 02-04-2003, 11:40 PM

Granted that was pretty funny li'l spoof (attempted realism believe it or not) at that scene.

I'm not much into the import scene for dragging, as i don't think the $ they spend is justifiable for their speeds etc.
However when it comes to driving around town and getting 25+mpg and being comfy and stuff they've got a bit on the big ole cars. I'll still drive my 69 BB everyday with it's gas guzzling, but for commutting, which most of those guys do, they chose a better vehicle..
Anyways to each his own, and MikeP read up on some Turbocharged V8 Chevys... tell me what you think on that rice

just playin bro,
Greg

bigjimzlll · 02-04-2003, 11:41 PM

To each their own.....I wouldn't mind having one of those new fangled ty or sy's or a lightning for that matter...as a daily driver for the wife....but for me...give me tire smoking,front end lifting, hard steering,tuff breaking,constantly tinkering, wonderful old american muscle.
Jim

Reumster · 02-05-2003, 07:23 AM

You see many AWD cars at drag events. They compete mostly in streetlegal classes.

mikep · 02-05-2003, 09:24 AM

Oh yeah. Theyre the ones geting spanked by V8 Pintos ;-) . Only half kidding on that. Ive seen some embarrasingly fast v8 pinto's.

A little update. I did a little more tuning on the ignition and richened up the carb one size . I'm down to 6.48 second 0-60 times. Still need lower gearing and a bigger carb on it but in all I'm pretty pleased with the new cam.

383 Stroker · 02-05-2003, 12:48 PM

mikep, are you using a gtech? A friend of mine has one, I tried it before I got Nitrous. I got a 5.1 second 0-60 time.

mikep · 02-05-2003, 01:31 PM

No but I think I might try one. It'd be a lot easier than the stopwatch/speedometer/shift method. I take an average of 3 runs usually .

02-04-2003, 10:07 PM	#26
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	I know what skylines are and they look like crap. Ugly styling. They might be somewhat fast but thats about it. AC ? thats when you pull the lexan window down! Comfortable ? Theres nothing more comfortable than solid motor mounts and racing seats. __________________ No truck :-(

02-04-2003, 11:25 PM	#27
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	ty, i'd love a ride in that ty of yours. And for you old schoolers who love the big muscle of the v8, any of you ever thought that if GM had some sense for a racing type truck/car they'd make an AWD pickup or car. You may think AWD is a crutch for underpowered but those Sy and Ty trucks will eat most of you up and lots of them have more power, see what they'll do. Dont get me wrong, i love a BB and a nasty blower but for driveability you cant much beat turbochargers on a motor. I dont care what displacement the motor is, turbos are more behaved than a supercharger anytime. Look up some serious power vehicles, tons and tons run turbos, and many run turbos with their superchargers.. lots of options fellas. AWD i tend to think is a great thing, especially for the racing most of the AWD cars do, but even on the strip AWD will grab and pull hard more often versus lifting a front end (waste of power), or breaking tires loose and smokin' em like you do with HUGE HP v8s and such. Ok i'm done hehe either way everyone's got a pick and a favorite, just dont be so rough on the ones in the "other" column, a li'l of being open minded might save you your proverbial 'lunch' from being eaten by someone. __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

02-04-2003, 11:34 PM	#28
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	All I know is... I laughed all the way through "The Fast and the Furious". The thing about AWD's ( lets just call it 4 wheel drive eh ) is you have something called weight transfer. Simple physics. That 4 wheel drive is still gouing to transfer weight to the rear when drag racing and when that happens the front wheels will lose traction in a big way . See any real drag racers using 4 wheel drive ? Theres a reason for that. Big HP motors and rear wheel drive are able to go faster than AWD in the quarter because of weight transfer not in spite of it . The AWD car is going to lose traction to the front if it doesnt break parts and or lose control. Mike __________________ No truck :-( Last edited by mikep; 02-04-2003 at 11:43 PM.

02-04-2003, 11:40 PM	#29
Big69C20 Toy Livin' it up. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Richland, MI Posts: 2,212	Granted that was pretty funny li'l spoof (attempted realism believe it or not) at that scene. I'm not much into the import scene for dragging, as i don't think the $ they spend is justifiable for their speeds etc. However when it comes to driving around town and getting 25+mpg and being comfy and stuff they've got a bit on the big ole cars. I'll still drive my 69 BB everyday with it's gas guzzling, but for commutting, which most of those guys do, they chose a better vehicle.. Anyways to each his own, and MikeP read up on some Turbocharged V8 Chevys... tell me what you think on that rice just playin bro, Greg __________________ -Greg; Sold the 69 C20. It's off to a better home with more love! Now onto the 86 CUCV M1009; K5 blazer with 6.2L diesel, corp 10 bolt axles, Detroit locker in the rear, trutrac front, 3.73 gears, 35" tires.

02-04-2003, 11:41 PM	#30
bigjimzlll Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redding,CA...USA Posts: 4,736	To each their own.....I wouldn't mind having one of those new fangled ty or sy's or a lightning for that matter...as a daily driver for the wife....but for me...give me tire smoking,front end lifting, hard steering,tuff breaking,constantly tinkering, wonderful old american muscle. Jim __________________ It's called "drag racing" if they called it "tic..tic..WHAM!..BANG! F*&K!!!", they'd have to keep the magazines under the counter with the other men's publications click the clicky to join the site.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php 67 lwb..first hotrod in 25 years..540 best ET is 9.45 @ 141.44 Anderson,CA

02-05-2003, 07:23 AM	#31
Reumster L.E.D. Freak Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Polson MT Posts: 1,358	You see many AWD cars at drag events. They compete mostly in streetlegal classes. __________________ Specializing in Custom L.E.D. inserts. http://www.ccled.com/ Contact me @ blazer2wd1972@hotmail.com (406)675-8082 or Joel @ jmcwaters@eps-corp.net 1972 2wd Blazer, 350/700R4/3:73 posi, err & Custom L.E.D. inserts! LOL

02-05-2003, 09:24 AM	#32
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Oh yeah. Theyre the ones geting spanked by V8 Pintos ;-) . Only half kidding on that. Ive seen some embarrasingly fast v8 pinto's. A little update. I did a little more tuning on the ignition and richened up the carb one size . I'm down to 6.48 second 0-60 times. Still need lower gearing and a bigger carb on it but in all I'm pretty pleased with the new cam. __________________ No truck :-(

02-05-2003, 12:48 PM	#33
383 Stroker Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jesup, GA Posts: 571	mikep, are you using a gtech? A friend of mine has one, I tried it before I got Nitrous. I got a 5.1 second 0-60 time. __________________ Video's of my Truck Racing 1967 C-10, 383ci Sbc, TH350, 3200 stall, 3.73 gear

02-05-2003, 01:31 PM	#34
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	No but I think I might try one. It'd be a lot easier than the stopwatch/speedometer/shift method. I take an average of 3 runs usually . __________________ No truck :-(



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