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Old 07-29-2010, 11:38 PM   #26
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

what do you guys think of an 88-98 door handle on my 81. i kinda did a photoshop in paint.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:59 PM   #27
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I am pretty certain your drive shaft isn't going to clear those support thingies.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:13 AM   #28
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

i agree about the driveshaft hitting the support thingys, it looks close. might have to build a different style of thingy.
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:25 AM   #29
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

The support had more clearance than the stock support had and it seems everything will clear, but I figure if when it's aired out and it doesn't clear, I'll just remove the brackets and notch the support
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:03 AM   #30
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I like the newer door handles on these trucks.

If your going with a bright colorful paint, i'd use the early model handles because their smooth and paintable. my '95 has the textured black ones and i hate them. just my .02.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:28 AM   #31
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Only bad thing I have seen about the 88-98 handles on the 73-87 trucks is that you have to put them lower in the door, and after awhile they tend to want to pull out. A guy I know did it, and after awhile he wished he would have just shaved them all together. My uncle has shaved doors on his 85, and a keyless remote that works the poppers. That's the way I would go.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:36 AM   #32
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

Knowing all the door handles on cars and trucks over the years, and seeing how they all react while frozen, I'm sort of amazed GM went away from the push button type like the squares have. I never really remember replacing outside handles very frequently until the 88's came out. Since then, during winter I'll try to keep a drivers outside handle in stock for modern trucks. Frozen handle, and a deep desire to gain entry with force, equals breakage these days.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:39 AM   #33
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Yeah the door handles on my 03 aren't very strong at all. I know 3 or 4 people that have broken theirs due to the door being stuck with the colder weather. I make sure I'm extra gentle with mine due to it.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:11 AM   #34
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Here my 2cents about shaved doors. They look great on a weekend cruiser/ show truck but for a DD they can cause problems when the popper gets stuck or the doors get frozen shut. I had both things happen to me on my shaved door burb about 10yrs ago. I was stuck with no way to get into the truck.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:25 AM   #35
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The support had more clearance than the stock support had and it seems everything will clear, but I figure if when it's aired out and it doesn't clear, I'll just remove the brackets and notch the support
When laid out your drive shaft will be much higher. You WILL need to notch the cross member you built so I wouldn't weld it in solid just yet.
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:26 AM   #36
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Here my 2cents about shaved doors. They look great on a weekend cruiser/ show truck but for a DD they can cause problems when the popper gets stuck or the doors get frozen shut. I had both things happen to me on my shaved door burb about 10yrs ago. I was stuck with no way to get into the truck.
I had shaved doors on my Nova and drove it daily for several years with no issues. Of course it doesn't get as cold down here in Texas
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Old 07-30-2010, 12:03 PM   #37
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Sweet truck! I would kill to get a truck that cheep for what it has already done to it!
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:03 PM   #38
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

I have had shave doors on more car,trucks then I can remember, if they are set up right and have a good back up you will have no problems... I let some talk me out of shaving my burb... wish I would have done it now...
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Old 07-30-2010, 02:41 PM   #39
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

You guys in the southern states don't have ice storms or 6ft of snow. So shave away those mirrors and door handles.
Mine was done when I bought in the middle of summer. When its 100* I wasn't thinking about winter time until mid december I went out to go to work and my door poppers wouldnt open.
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LOL...you mean it gets colder then 50?....
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Old 07-30-2010, 03:51 PM   #41
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i welded some 3/4" all thread to some to make them adjustable
maybe its the fuzzy picture but the weld on such an important piece doesnt look that strong. I would double check the grade on that 3/4 all thread... i would want to know what grade for sure... im with everyone else.. ive never seen a grade 8 all thread. plus when you weld bolts, they arnt as strong as they use to be.
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Yeah shaved doors would never work for me. I work the graveyard shift and in winter the temp can go into the single digits.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:55 PM   #43
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Re: maxxy's 81 bagged c10 build

yall were right. i lowered the truck off the jack stands and the driveshaft doesnt clear. darn. :/

if the rod ends break and my whole truck falls apart i guess you guys can say i told you so. haha if i were to get rid of the all thread, what would you suggest i used to replace it to make my bars adjustable?

i was thinking the 88-98 handles are just more smooth with the body and give it the smooth look of being shaved but with the reliability of an actual handle. you suggest just keeping the stock handles?
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the 88 on handles look pretty cool.
back in the late 80's - 90's when that was popular I would have every bodyman I knew cutting out and saving the handle mounts out of the doors and skins they replaced on the stock trucks for me. To add those handles was really double work from shaving handles... cause you had to shave the original handle, and cut and weld in the new handle skin/mount.
those 88 and up doors )ck) were easy to "pop" (thieves could jimmy under the handle with a thin screwdriver and work the lock rod..)
they made a theft preventer back then that was bolt on.. i used to double the area behind with tacking in an extra strip of sheet metal (typically trimed
off of the same door skin that the handle hole came out of ) to strengthen and help prevent a popper from access.
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Here my 2cents about shaved doors. They look great on a weekend cruiser/ show truck but for a DD they can cause problems when the popper gets stuck or the doors get frozen shut. I had both things happen to me on my shaved door burb about 10yrs ago. I was stuck with no way to get into the truck.
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yall were right. i lowered the truck off the jack stands and the driveshaft doesnt clear. darn. :/

if the rod ends break and my whole truck falls apart i guess you guys can say i told you so. haha if i were to get rid of the all thread, what would you suggest i used to replace it to make my bars adjustable?

i was thinking the 88-98 handles are just more smooth with the body and give it the smooth look of being shaved but with the reliability of an actual handle. you suggest just keeping the stock handles?
You could use the ends you have and weld them to pipe and get something like this
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or find you some higher grade studs to weld on or bolts and cut the heads off
There is a build on another forum (I believe) who smoothed the ridges off the stock handles, it looked very custom
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On the shaved doors and poppers, I know a lot about them and how they work but I I don't know about the emergency manual unlock. How does that work? Where do you hide it?

I don't think my welder can handle more than grade 5. And where do you find 3/4" bolts?
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I got the 1" ones, yeah they are a little more but that is your suspension your playing with and i want to be safe than sorry.

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You can hide a release cable under the cab.

If your welder can't handle it you probably shouldn't be welding on suspension parts with it.

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[QUOTE=maxxxy;4115624]On the shaved doors and poppers, I know a lot about them and how they work but I I don't know about the emergency manual unlock. How does that work? Where do you hide it?

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Maxxy, the typical emergency release is a sheilded cable that hooks to the
release inside the door, and is routed thru the door jamb into the wheel well or some other inconspicous place for a manual release. A lot of the kits I see for solenoids actually come with one, or you are able to purchase one. But they are easy to rig.
Ive see folks use a universal choke style cable, and old section of speedometer cable, awnmower throttle cables, old bicycle brake or shift cables or even a piece of bailing wire! I knew of one truck that only had this type of release.
I left the lock cylinder on my 81 and use a key-pop.
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You can hide a release cable under the cab.

If your welder can't handle it you probably shouldn't be welding on suspension parts with it.

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