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09-29-2020, 06:50 PM | #1 |
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Re: Problems buying from gmachinz Jabin Wood?
I have to at least add this. I provide services, just like Jabin does. I go about it a lot different than he does. I sell restored Benchseats, and restore seatbelts for people. First off, in both cases, I don’t collect any money from my costumers until their item is completed. The only time I do collect a “deposit”, is when a specific color of cover needs to be made to order. And I do everything thru PayPal with invoices. That way the customer has a copy of what service is being done. Only when the service has been completed and I send photos to my customer, is when payment is due, prior to shipping. And as soon as payment is received, I make out the shipping label and the customer gets the tracking number.
I feel that the way Jabin is conducting his business, is putting people at risk to be scammed of their money. Sometimes it takes 6 weeks to get a cover made and a seat built for someone. Just as it takes time to build these harness’. So why take their money now? Your only opening yourself up to being questioned every few days or weeks on when they are getting their product shipped. It’s wrong in expecting payment for something that who knows how long it’s going to take. And to ask someone to use the F&F on PayPal, to save a few bucks on fees is also wrong. I gotta pay them. I gladly do, to keep my customers at ease, knowing that their purchase is protected. People, you need to learn to protect yourself. I too, learned the hard way. An $800 lesson learned. I paid a deposit on something and fell for the F&F way of paying. HUGE MISTAKE! And I will never do that again, and I would never ask anyone to do it either. So when it comes to Jabin and his harness’, people need to not pay until he fills the order.
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09-29-2020, 08:31 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Problems buying from gmachinz Jabin Wood?
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09-29-2020, 09:09 PM | #3 |
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Re: Problems buying from gmachinz Jabin Wood?
Just check the member dealings about him... At least 3 posts about him.
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09-29-2020, 07:22 PM | #4 | |
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09-29-2020, 07:28 PM | #5 |
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That would be nice. I won't hold my breath though.
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09-29-2020, 10:35 PM | #6 |
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Re: Problems buying from gmachinz Jabin Wood?
There have been numerous posts and threads on here about his terrible customer service and communication. I don’t understand why people continue to buy from him no matter the quality of the product.
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09-30-2020, 12:17 AM | #7 |
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Re: Problems buying from gmachinz Jabin Wood?
TKCR, the problem is, selling like you do limits your options of a marketplace. Ebay is a very desirable platform, and as far as I know, it has no option for "commit to buy, pay when done" like you're suggesting.
I'm involved in an extensive "from-scratch" rewire of my truck right now. When this truck is finished, I'll have a good working knowledge and inventory of Metri-Pack, Packard-56, Weather-Pack, Pack-Con, and GT connectors, terminals, and accessories. I'll likely dabble a bit with the Deutch system as well. I've had more than a passing interest in getting into some harness construction myself. When several of my other projects have settled down a little, I'll revisit the idea. I would definitely want to start out with smaller harnesses, and work my way into more complex ones. Any suggestions or ideas are appreciated!
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09-30-2020, 09:11 AM | #8 | |
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That maybe another one of Jabins faults. He maybe taking on more than he can handle. So he really needs to stop taking people’s money BEFORE he can produce the product. I mean after all, since you have dabbled in harnessing, you know that’s a time consuming task. I have done a little myself, at my previous job.
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09-30-2020, 09:20 AM | #9 | |
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09-30-2020, 09:54 AM | #10 |
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No, I’m sorry I don’t. I mainly do seats, seatbelts and interior parts restoration. Even though I did a little of this at my place of employment, where I retired from. Lol, I would have no desire to do them again. It just too tedious of work for my liking.
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09-30-2020, 09:56 AM | #11 |
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Understandable.
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09-30-2020, 08:13 AM | #12 |
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It's always sad when a good vendor goes bad. It does happen from time to time. It reminds me of Dave Dodge on the Honda V4 forums. He started out great and ended up a thief. I guess life situations change and money problems lead to desperation. I bought from Gmachinz a couple years ago and had no problems and good quality. It's too bad that this is no longer the case and I hope these are isolated incidents and he can rebuild his reputation.
I got burned on some Camaro parts a few years ago on ebay. I paid through paypal and the guy never shipped the parts and closed his paypal account. There isn't much you can do if people are so dishonest they change paypal accounts and bank accounts frequently. Sometime you just can't avoid getting screwed.
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10-02-2020, 11:35 AM | #16 | |
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10-02-2020, 11:37 AM | #17 |
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I believe he is banned from this forum. Am I wrong? I know he is banned from other forums for doing this exact same thing. I only found out after I paid him. Like I said, lesson learned. I just hate that now I will avoid the small business person and always look at them with suspicion. No one wins here. Not even Jabin Wood.
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10-02-2020, 11:37 AM | #18 |
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I receive lots of friends and family payments and have never taken someones money. I would never do so as this is my lively hood and word of mouth goes a long way(except in Jabin's case) I think maybe the quality of his work makes potential buyers willing to take the risk to purchase a product from him. I don't know of anyone else that does what he does. I hope something gets worked out for you. Not everyone has a conscience. If I took someone's money the thought of that would literally hang over my head for years
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10-02-2020, 11:58 AM | #20 |
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I have a conscience and just know something like that would just eat away at me. When I was younger, I didn't always do things right and to this day, I still think about them. In my early 20s I had a great girlfriend that I cheated on. In my mid 30s I found her and reached out to her and sent her a long letter apologizing for everything. She was completely forgiving. Now that I am in my 40s I still feel bad. When I was in high school, I had a friends brother pick up $80 of parts for me and I never paid him(not intentionally) I am sure he has long forgotten but if I ran into him I would still hand him the money. That is just how I am. Like some other members have said, it may just show up at your door one day. I really don't think he intentionally ripped you off. I am sure you are not the only pissed off customer and dealing with upset people all of the time can make you just want to shut down. I think if I were to buy from Jabin again, I would purchase off eBay as 99.9% of the time they side with the buyer and will back you
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OK. I know nothing about a dual tank harness. But, what can be so complicated about it that you have to rely on someone in which it will be a crap shoot if you will see your money or the harness? Is it that much of a unicorn? Personally, I would research this great forum and if you cant find the the information to make your own reach out to some of the well respected knowledgeable members that are here (a couple that come to mind are LS1NOVA71 and Vette Vette) and i am sure they would be more than happy to help you out. That is what makes this place so great.
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10-02-2020, 04:32 PM | #23 |
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I usually stay out of these types of discussions, but post like this show me a lot about the character (or lack of) of a lot of people.
I buy and sell a fair amount of stuff, preferably from individuals as to me, it helps those that love the hobby, trying to fund a project, or are looking for that hard to find part. I do work on the side also (welding floor pans, rockers, quarter panels etc on old cars, because none of the local body shops will) and though my regular paying job now involves me working a rotating shift, I always reply to calls or texts. May not be immediately, but within 12-24 hrs. I always explain this up front, BEFORE we reach an agreement. My grandfather always said, “A man is only as good as his word. And sometimes that’s all that he’s got” |
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On a positive note, I just bought this little beauty. Runs so good.
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Looks clean.
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