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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Ok...now that is a more focused statement that I can agree with.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
IMO , your truck is worth what someone will pay for it. may it be a short bed with no options or a long bed full of options.....this applies with everything, not just vehicles......thinks about things you have baught or had to have that nobody else would have taken for free................i understand there is a market value, but all i am saying is that its only worth what you sell it for.. does this make sence? or am i reading the question wrong
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
I would say a "a Cheyenne 10 with BB, PS, PB, AC, TH400, helper springs, sway bar, AM/FM radio, deluxe mirrors, cargo light" is more rare. No rust and no dents with a solid bed makes it even more valuable. I would like to know what this is worth. Ok all you truck experts lets here some estimates.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
I will guess your truck to be worth 8k as it is - and 15-17k with a full restoration
with an equivalent factory short bed being worth 2k more both ways The value of these trucks goes up all the time , too, --- your particular truck would probably be worth more as a restoration with a few custom bolt ons that help the driveability or appearance--- than as a full bore hot rod. The Chevelle guys do this a lot -- mothball their 396's and install a 454 or 502 for more go-power, and there's definitely no crime in dropped spindles and springs and some sweet 18" TT2's (i am not a professional appraiser of anything but a Bud Light's "born on date" though) Last edited by streetstar; 10-03-2007 at 08:22 PM. |
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
I too agree with frizzle about the value ladder
Case in point. My 72 LWB is for sale, it seems that I've had relatively little interest in it. I think the number 1 reason for that is because it's a longbed. It doesn't seem to mater how nice it is, people want a shortbed. A shortbed whether its original or cut down. I decided I too wanted a shortbed. But rather than cutting down my LWB, i searched for a new frame mainly cause I also wanted coil springs. I initially was looking for a LWB to cut down, but happened to find a SWB for a somewhat reasonable price (I still think I probably overpaid for it) so I picked it up. |
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Frizzle has clearly summed it up. The only reason clean long beds are seeing a spike in value is shortbeds are getting more expensive to buy or build.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
I say go for it.And if you or the lucky next owner wants to use it for anything,he can just get one of these;
http://www.slickcar.com/bigshot.asp?ProductID=3977
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
The value ladder is a little skewed- Frizz is close though
Condition and options being the same I agree totally that a factory short bed is worth more than a factory long bed. However, an unmolested LWB should be second on the list with a cut or converted longbed bringing up the rear-- maybe not as much, one with a frame swap, but definitely, one with a cut frame is not worth as much as an unmolested long wheelbase |
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
You also have a tpi engine installed, its painted mint green and has roll pans --- all of which combined has made it a niche vehicle rather than one with more widespread appeal. It will sell, it just needs the right buyer
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Yeah, I know...just not soon enough. And the color is actually VERY close to the orginal "Medium Green"
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
personaly i would rather have a unmolested lwb bb truck just to have an unmolested surviver but i would not hesatate to buy a shortened one as long as it was done right and went down the road straight. however if i had said unmolested bb lwb i would not alter it but find a less desireable truck to shorten. nothing wrong with having more than one
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Look, here is what it comes down to.
If you're 'restoring' the truck, to stock everything, obv. if its a longbed, it should stay a long bed. If you're making it custom, then by all means, do whatever you want just do it right and tasteful. You can get the same amount of money either way, one will just appeal to a different crowd. |
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
All these lowered trucks that sit on the ground have the frames notched out in the rear.
When you change cabs it is no longer factory original, motors etc. If you want to customize YOUR truck Go For It. Just do it Proper. Ron
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
JMO, I would never shorten a frame. It would drive me crazy just thinking about it after the fact. In another 10-15 years or so it might be an issue, but there are just too many short frames around now to cut one down.
I would start with your 72 BB LWB and find a SWB frame. In the long run you will be happier. The value of the truck when finished would not be an issue to me, it would be more Psychological to me. Both of my projects the black one and the mustard (current) started out as highly optioned BB cheyenne supers and ended up on short frames.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
I dont think it will be any harder to sell than a long bed would be. I suggest you document all the modifications done to it. I know if I were looking to buy it & I could see pics of the work as it was being done & it looked well done, Id be more comfortable about those mods.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Let me speak from experience here. I looked for over a year for a reasonably priced 68' shortbed. After a year and seeing a few over priced rusted buckets and lots of EXPENSIVE 68' swb's, I decided my project was not going to be a "Back to Stock" resto, but was going to be more on the lines of a full blown resto mod. So....what does it really matter if my LWB frame is modified to a SWB frame. To me, as long as it was done right, and it was (Thanks Glock), it makes no difference to me at all. My truck, a 68' RUST FREE LWB was purchased for $960.00 and delivered to my shop. Try buying a 68' rust free shortbed for that price...you can't! When I bought my straight rust free 71' that was in primer and ready to paint...(Lil' Red), I paid $5 grand for her. She was an incredible unmolested 71'...but she was 5K. A lot more $ went into my 71' before she was finished. This time I started with an investment of $960....and can buy a Tremec 5 speed and 383 small block for the 4 thousand I saved buying a longbed.
It all comes down to "Do what you want"! It's your truck. If you want to do a exact factory assembly line restoration...do it with an un cut frame, that I totally agree on. But if you are building a Hot Rod bad ass truck don't give it a worry, and grab a hold of that PLASMA cutter. Just my honest opinion. peace out Alex
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I say find a SWB frame and build it up from there. If your truck was a $1,000 roller LWB I'd say cut it and go on with life. Your truck is too nice to go choppin' on. My .02
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Don't chop.
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
rare doesn't always mean desirable, if two trucks identical were sitting beside each other, one long and one a short cut down from a long, i'd rather have the short and think 90% of the rest of the world too. just my .02
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
Old dodge trucks are rare.... but
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Re: Value Of A Converted LWB To A SWB
There are still a lot of short bed donor frames out there, --- with the price of a frame off being between 10-15k or more, why not suck it up and use an uncut frame?
I have been pretty vocal about this in the forums, but you know what? I have a 1969 GMC LWB with leaf springs that came with a 307 and zero convenience options ----- hell yes i am thinking about chopping the frame --how undesirable is that option package in some people's eyes? - my particular truck may be one of the many that would be better off as a clean hot rod than a resto ----and its low mileage and has a cleaner body than my 'o6 F 150----------- but -- and this is a big butt --- its definitely not a CST, Cheyenne, or Sierra Grande ---- If i had one of those -- i would leave it as whatever the glovebox tag said it should be, those are beautiful and valuable trucks-long or short. Last edited by streetstar; 10-04-2007 at 10:09 PM. |
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[QUOTE but -- and this is a big butt --- its definitely not a CST, Cheyenne, or Sierra Grande ---- If i had one of those -- i would leave it as whatever the glovebox tag said it should be, those are beautiful and valuable trucks-long or short.[/QUOTE]
streetstar...you are right on target. Amen! Bingo! Halleluiah...we have a winner. ![]()
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