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Old 06-04-2014, 02:56 PM   #26
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Re: Upgrade to power brakes from manual

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Looks like a nice start, impressed with the shape of that interior. Maybe a little jealous... What's your build plans?
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Old 06-04-2014, 03:11 PM   #27
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Probably could find one on the forum here. Sucks that it's missing one, though.

It does look like a very nice truck! What engine does it have in it? I guess it would have had/has a 283 or 235 being a '62.

BTW, now I see you said "GM HO 10 bolt" 1963c-10. I've never called them that, so I tend to associate that with people confusing the smaller Eaton rears in the pre-'63 half tons for the later 10 bolt GM rear. FWIW, the Eaton 52/72 was actually used under 20-30 series (3/4-1 ton) trucks all the way from 1947 (IIRC) until the introduction of the 14 bolt that replaced it in 1973.
GM HO32 w/10 bolt cover....sorry 66Submarine.... was the standard 10 series rear diff and like yo said 52/72 in the larger series.

All parts point to it being a 62....I'd definitely check vin and frame number to see what you have.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:09 PM   #28
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Looks like a nice start, impressed with the shape of that interior. Maybe a little jealous... What's your build plans?
Honestly I think I want to start with the body and then in. It's got a running motor. Something most aren't lucky to find I suppose. I'm not a huge gear head anymore. At least not like I used to be. Had a 79 Chrysler 300 (came stock with a 360), 90 Chevy 454 SS (probably my most missed), 96 Camaro SS, and then a 2001 Subaru RS. I'm more traditional now in the fact that I own two newer Suburbans. I want to stay carburated. I don't really like the fuel injected idea on an old truck. I gave some thought to throwing a big block in it but it sounds like there is a lot more modification needed than just sticking a 327 or 350 in it. I'm more of a put around guy than a lead foot now.

As far as the body goes. I like the 62 Hood more than the 60 Hood so I'll stick with it. REALLY contemplating changing the bed to a Long Step Side. I already have the fenders and front and rear of the bed off a 60 in may garage. I'm pretty sure I can use those. All I should need is the longer steps in front of the wheel well, the rear steps, and the inside bed walls.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:26 PM   #29
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Re: Upgrade to power brakes from manual

Long bed fleet to long bed step is pretty easy to do. There are different mounting locations for the bed though. The long bed stepside parts (side panels and steps) are not reproduced and a little harder to find, but they are out there....and no steps behind the fenders....just in front. If your considering a swap, I'd look for a donar bed instead of parting it together. It'd be cheaper to do. The front bed panels and tailgates for the stepsides are pretty much interchangeable from late 55-66 so that should help you with your search.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:31 PM   #30
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Long bed fleet to long bed step is pretty easy to do. There are different mounting locations for the bed though. The long bed stepside parts (side panels and steps) are not reproduced and a little harder to find, but they are out there....and no steps behind the fenders....just in front. If your considering a swap, I'd look for a donar bed instead of parting it together. It'd be cheaper to do. The front bed panels and tailgates for the stepsides are pretty much interchangeable from late 55-66 so that should help you with your search.
Good to know. There was someone on here down south that I spoke to a while back that was going from Step to Fleet Side and said he would possibly sell his. I'll have to check with him. I've seen some long bed steps that had a step behind the wheel. Must have been a custom job. Thats good to know too. Havent found too many goo photos online that show the back part of the beds.
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They were probably step bumpers which were normally dealer installed. The step bumpers wrap around the back of the trucks and are normally very heavy duty bumpers
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #32
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BTW its for a 63 C20
Since I know everyone is dying to know. I finally have the correct answer. It's a 62. I have no idea why I thought ut was a 63. I specifically remember reading about the changes made to 63's and up and being jealous because I had the 62.

Anyway heres a picture of the front wheel. Doesn't look like ive got coils on the front.
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Old 06-04-2014, 07:48 PM   #33
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Re: Upgrade to power brakes from manual

BTW, from my understanding most (maybe even all?) of the parts are the same for the '55 (2nd series) to '66 stepside beds. I know the fenders and all that stuff is supposed to be '55-'66, and IIRC the tailgate is actually a '47-'87 part somehow.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:06 AM   #34
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Looks like a fairly decent truck

I agree that it is a '62 C20 with either a 235 or a 261. Most likely a 235.

I do have a single 8 hole 17.5 wheel if you are interested.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:50 AM   #35
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Looks like a fairly decent truck

I agree that it is a '62 C20 with either a 235 or a 261. Most likely a 235.

I do have a single 8 hole 17.5 wheel if you are interested.
Really? What are you looking to get for it?
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Re: Upgrade to power brakes from manual

Ohhh...and I saw in the new Class Industries catalog I got yesterday that they are reproducing the long bed stepside bedsides......
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Old 06-05-2014, 08:27 AM   #37
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BTW, from my understanding most (maybe even all?) of the parts are the same for the '55 (2nd series) to '66 stepside beds. I know the fenders and all that stuff is supposed to be '55-'66, and IIRC the tailgate is actually a '47-'87 part somehow.
Pretty close....
47-53 had a different design tailgate than the 54-87
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:19 AM   #38
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Re: Upgrade to power brakes from manual

Yeah I bought what I thought was a 64 as it came with a 64 title. The truck did not have a vin plate on the door frame but after removing the body parts found the number on the frame saying it was a 65, also the motor turned out to be a 65 so have to go through the 68A form here in Texas to get it retitled. The North Texas Auto Theft Task Force at least told me the truck is not stolen so that was a relief. But in order to get a new correct title with a new vin plate I have to get the truck completed and take it to them for inspection and then I can get the correct title and be able to get a new vin plate.
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Pretty close....
47-53 had a different design tailgate than the 54-87
That's what I've always thought, thanks for the picture. Can't remember who was saying it goes back to that, but I guess they got confused if it was used in '54; probably extrapolated that back or something. I think I read it on a parts site selling them, though; hopefully they've corrected that by now!
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That's what I've always thought, thanks for the picture. Can't remember who was saying it goes back to that, but I guess they got confused if it was used in '54; probably extrapolated that back or something. I think I read it on a parts site selling them, though; hopefully they've corrected that by now!
I actually see that a lot with the tailgates being listed for the wrong years by vendors.
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So how hard is it to upgrade to coil springs on a 62?
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$35.00 plus shipping

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You will have to do a complete suspension and crossmember swap. May as well upgrade to discs with power steering and brakes if you're going to all that work.

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You will have to do a complete suspension and crossmember swap. May as well upgrade to discs with power steering and brakes if you're going to all that work.
I have found 63 and up conversion kits. Any idea where I can find everything I need for this 62?
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I'll have to get a pic when I'm at my shop tomorrow.

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I'll have to get a pic when I'm at my shop tomorrow.
Sounds good, thanks!!
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Here's a pic of the 17.5 wheel I have. I still need to peel the tire off of it.
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Here's a pic of the 17.5 wheel I have. I still need to peel the tire off of it.
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Yes PayPal works. I'll have to get the tire off of it and get a box and weight. What is your zip?

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