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10-31-2010, 09:13 PM | #1 |
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Been a while since I posted anything. I went from only working part time to getting a full time job and continuing to work part time as well. 56-60 hrs a week. Needless to say, progress has been slow, but I have spent my rare free evenings and the occasional saturday trying to get the rust tamed on the S10 chassis. Also finished a little welding and mock up.
Boxed in the frame horns and fabbed a support for the front sheet metal and radiator. Going with a 19X22 crossflow. Got the tranny mount in place. Not a clear pick but I ended up with a 4 degree slope, front to rear on the engine.
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Rust removal sucks. Media blasting is the way to go but I am just to cheap. I may have saved a few bucks but it was a b$%ch. If your time is worth anything to you I would suggest getting your project media blasted. I estimate I spent 20-30 hours, one 4 1/2 inch harbor fail grinder, 4 knotted wire cups, 3 flapper sanding wheels, 3 large cans of WD-40, one pint of Vapo-rust, and a good deal of my sanity, getting this thing ready for primer. And as hard as I tried I could not get ALL the rust out of the nooks and crannies around the crossmember attach points. But this is not a show truck. It's going to be a daily driver.
Getting there Starting to really shine. I put lacquer thinner in a spray bottle and wiped it all down a couple times after I thought I had all the rust off. Found a few places that needed more work. I hit them with the kniotted wire cups and wiped everything down a couple more times. It is as good as I can get it so time for primer. I did't get any pics of it in primer but I used epoxy primer and gave it 2 coats. Then after letting it set for 60 minutes I hit it with 2 coats of chassis black. It was ready to use right out of the can and went on really smooth. I am pretty happy with the results. I know there are a lot of opinions on how to do a project like this and I value others imput. For a first time builder I think it's going pretty well.
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10-31-2010, 11:14 PM | #3 |
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Nice job. In 85 I burned up a 1/4 drill using a wire brush on mine. Did not have a compressor at the time. Half way thru this project I discovered 3M purple disks. They look like oat mill but cut like crazy and do not scratch or mess up the metal. DA with 80 grit works good on the flats too. Something magical about going from bare metal to black frame paint.
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I've heard people refer to DA's a lot on here and I have no idea what that is. fill me in. I know about orbital and jitter bug sanders but I am at a loss on this one.
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That is one clean looking bare metal frame, what a lot of ugly work. I started out to do mine that way and after an hour or so I said screw it and loaded her up in the truck and off to the blasters it went. I would've never thought you could get it looking that nice, good job.
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I knew you would come to the dark side eventually!
You have made some awesome progress on your build. What are you going to do with the other frame that you started out with? I was hoping that you were going to finish that one because from what I've read and understand no very very few have finished it. Keep up the great work and keep those pic comin'. And don't forget to fish plate over your frame splice. Best to error on the side of caution.
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while you did not mention it I assume you established and the check diagonal points to make sure it is square. Side to side length can be the same but pulled into a trapazoid.
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11-07-2010, 11:02 AM | #8 |
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Thanks for pointing that out Orrie. Yes I referenced points on both sides and made diagonal measurements. I measured everything repeatedly, tweaked it where needed, until I was satisfied that it was all as straight as I could get it.
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Bartman are you still out there? Anything new?
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Hey Bartman, you've made a ton of progress since we talked over on that other site! Looks great so far! I need come down and check your project out since you are right down the road. I'm starting another one now, you're welcome to swing by and shoot the breeze and check it out.
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Yeah whats the progress bartman? Where in Derby do you live? I live just past Chet Smith in Park hill. I may have to pick your brain about what youve done. I have a 52 shortbed that I put a 383/th350 combo in it and did the C-10 ifs swap. I also have a 54 longbed both in NM at my moms waiting to be picked up.
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looking good,keep the pictures coming & keep on truckin''
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any updates.
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we at the shop are in the process of building a 51 for the shop owners father. hope to have it done by Christmas, so we can give it to him. your body mounts are an inspiration.
keep up the good work
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WOW!!!!! I have been away from this site for so long I feel like Rip Van Winkle!!!
Sorry it's been so long. Money has been really tight and you know that working 2 jobs to make ends meet sucks a$$. Thanks for all the comments and cudos. I'm getting the itch to work on the old truck again and I do have a few things I can do that won't cost an arm and a leg. I bought all the ball joints and control arm bushings last summer so I can get those changed out. I also came across a way to remove rust from my control arms, etc that might be helpfull to someone. You mix 1 gallon of molasses with 10 gallons of water and submerge your parts in that solution. I went to a farm supply store and picked up some feed grade molasses like you would use for livestock or for a deer lick. I got a 30 gallon trash can and doubled the recipe and it worked pretty well. I will still have to shine everything up with knotted wire brushes, but it will be minimal. I also hung some rusty old headers in the solution and they came out nice too. Again just need a little shining up. I even hung an inexpensive thermostatically controlled stock tank heater in it so it wouldnt freeze over the winter. For you guys in the Derby Ks. area or anyone close by you are all welcome to drop by and check out my work. I really need to do a good cleanup in the shop before I get started so this weekend will probably be dedicated to that. Wish I had more pics to post but I think I have pretty much covered all my progress. Oh, I just thougth of a question for anyone who has an opinion. After I painted the Chassis I started to bolt in my motor mounts that I built and notice that one of the mounts sits about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch lower (would make the motor sit about 1/2 inch to the right of the center line of the chassis and ever so slightly lower on the left side. I considered scraping them and starting over, but now I'm thinking that I would probably be the only one who would ever notice it and I know that some vehicles deliberatley moved the motor as much as 2 inches to one side or the other from the factory. Should I rebuild the mounts or go with them as they are?
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av8tr33337, I know how things can be. I work all the time too. I have 3 kids and my wife stayes home with the youngest. It does not pay for her to work and for us to pay for day care. I will have to try the molasse solution and see how it works out. As for the motor mount I do not think I would redo it. If it sets fairly level side to side and just sets in the frame one way more I would run it. I know to that some cars have thr motor one way more because of steering coming down. Hope that helps.
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Bartman! good to see you are still kicking,I feel your pain brother I am going to have to join the two job folks soon and man I am not looking forward to it, I have done it before but I was a lot younger and a lot less hurt.
My engine set low on the right side I used JTR mounts and had to pull the engine up as far as it would go and let it go a low as possible on the left and it still looks a slight bit of kilter but most people don't notice it. I got to see pictures of the molasses treatment.
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Bartman, great video.
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X2, great video and excellent music choice too!!
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I got all my upper and lower control arm bushings replaced. Started on the ball joints and SON OF A B&$#@ if somebody didn't weld one of the bottom ones in. I couldn't see the weld because the boot was hiding it so I beat the hell out of it before the boot fell off and I saw the problem. I don't think there is any way to salvage the lower control arm. It's not beat up or anything, I kust don't think you can grind off the weld, knock out the balljoint and put another one in. I guess they are probably fairly cheap at the pick your part. Got the rest of them all shined up and ready for primer.
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Thanks that's what I thought to. I can get a used one for 45 bucks at a pull a part. maybe cheaper somewhere else to.
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x3 bartman I guess I am going to have to get a youtube account some day.
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Thanks, I love Rockablilly and Classic Rock and even Blugrass.
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