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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
From what I’ve read, JD enamel paints are indeed manufactured by Valspar. What I’ve never been able to confirm is whether or not Blitz Black is exactly the same formulation as any other Valspar black enamel. The ratio of different components may change depending on brand name or color selection such as flat black, satin black, or semi-gloss black between the product lines.
Years ago I worked for a company that made trail mixes. Nationally branded mixes received a high concentration of more expensive contents, like macadamia nuts, or cashews for example. “Club Store” mixes generally looked the same, but were blended with a much higher quantity of cheaper components like peanuts and raisins. This dramatically reduced cost so they could be sold cheap at discount stores. It could be that because of brand exposure and product liability, John Deere paints receive superior chemical compositions compared to other products in Valspar production. Increased pricing could just be paying for the JD name, but my personal experience has been that John Deere paint is just as cheap as the generic stuff. The biggest disadvantage I'm aware of to buying genuine JD Blitz Black isn’t cost, it’s finding a way to acquire it if you live in a state where it isn’t allowed to be sold. I’ve also had excellent results using Rustoleum enamels, but I have never found one that exactly matches the color and texture of Blitz Black. |
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Canadian tire semi gloss black spray can @ $4.29 a can, haha, good from far. |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
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2 different blacks that i know of, blitz and another that i forget off hand. white, green and yellow. last time i was in the goodyear store the guy said something about a red color comin out but i've never looked into it. |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
From the web:
A little About Blitz Black: John Deere Blitz Black is a suede/satin black enamel paint manufactured by Valspar. It's manufactured for use on their farm equipment. It's durability, look and low cost (around $25 a gallon) have become popular with custom car builders and hot rodders to give their car the old "hot rod" look that won't fade away and is very durable to the elements. This paint can be applied anywhere including high heat areas. According to John Deere, you CAN paint over John Deere Blitz Black with another coat of Enamel paint. (I can confirm this as I have painted over my Blitz Black paint job with generic enamel paint when I painted the flames on my car.) John Deere ( Low Gloss ) Blitz Black Paint is available in 12 Oz. spray cans and quart containers. Some things you should know - * JDBB is Not for Sale In California, it does not comply with CARB VOC limits* * JDBB MUST SHIP UPS GROUND* * It is not available for sale to Alaska or Hawaii * It has a Lead-free formulations that is user-friendly and environmentally safe * JDBB is Suitable for exterior or interior use * It is a High-quality, long-lasting, color-fast paint for weather-proven performance in field testing * Produces a finish that sets up in minutes, is tack free in a few hours, and dries overnight to a hard, glossy film * Resists fading, cracking, and chipping * May be applied directly to metal, plastic, or wood without using a primer (John Deere primer is recommended for improved corrosion resistance) |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
"John Deere ( Low Gloss ) Blitz Black Paint is available in 12 Oz. spray cans and quart containers."
gallons too, locally anyway. my brother just did his truck with clear added in the mix, turned rather nice. |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Hello forum, i dont mean to bring an old topic back to life but im in need of some help with blitz black. I ordered it by mail along with hardener (which im not going to use due to iso's) and john deere thinner. My question is, since the thinner dries fast from what i hear and read which cause tiger striping, does anybody have good results with another brand of reducer made for acrylic enamel? Napa wants way too much. I found a medium reducer but i live in texas and the temp has been 90-98 degrees which im told slow speed reducer will work best for these temps. Any clue? Thanks in advance!
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
I purchased my thinner at a local automotive paint store. Any brand of slow speed acrylic enamel reducer should work fine for blending with Blitz Black paint.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
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I'll go see what the automotive paint stores have this week. I couldnt find anything online. Most places carried it for urethane and one site was just carrying medium speed for acrylic enamel. |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
51 Chevy powered Blitzed Ford
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Goes on great..very forgiving..I used the JD thinner
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Should stick a Bowtie on that Ford, would be popular I bet..
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Cool Ford I used to have a 52' F-1.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Wow, a black truck in west Texas better have A/C or you gotta be tough. In central CA not too many of us roll around in black. It does look great tho' but I just can't deal with the solar oven effect.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Man you have no idea how much grief I got on the Ford truck site over that 350!
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Looks good diesel. How long did it take to harden? Im not going with hardener so im sure it may take longer to cure.
Hey Dave, yes a/c is a must! Heat exhaustion isnt fun at all. But its a project build and not a daily driver yet. Once i get to that point i'll be going with a better paint job but thats not happening anytime soon. |
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Can John Deer Blitz Black be sprayed over Rustoleum oil base enamel?
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
I would like to know the same.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
Not something I've tried...might be worth getting a can and doing a spot ...you can buy it in the hand bombs ...it's pretty resilient...not sure on adhesion
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
I know Mark has sprayed it over lacquer, just curious if it'd be okay over Rustoleum.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
I would "assume" it would be okay over Rustoleum as long as it's been left to cure. Air dry enamel over the same thing should be just fine, I've just never tried it.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
What I'm reading is the actual base of the paint one plans to use. Lacquer base paint or lacquer base clear will wrinkle Rust-oleum.
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Re: John Deere Blitz Black paint?
I'm finding a few different part numbers for blitz black.
What is the correct numbers for the satin in quarts and spray cans?
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