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yeller
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Re: 6" front drop question
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![]() And as far as air suspension...thought about it, but $$ was the issue. Also, not a real big fan of bags...maybe I am just old school, I dunno. More stuff to dink with, more stuff to possibly break...static drops seem so simple and or more cost effective (for me). We'll see how the front turns out.. ![]()
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Re: 6" front drop question
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As careful as you might plan to be, there is always going to be a bump or dip that sneaks up on you. There is nothing worse than scraping freshly painted suspension parts or fender liners. The ultimate sick feeling is when you cut up a pretty new tire. Just my opinion, but it is based on experience... ![]()
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Re: 6" front drop question
I definately agree to N2TRUX.
@bigblock: I also didn't plan to bag but I want go low so this is the only way. The static drop drives great but where do you find such great roads? |
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Re: 6" front drop question
Be sure and go with a larger rim dia. so you don't have a interference with the lower A-arm !!!
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Re: 6" front drop question
Offset/backspacing is more important than diameter. You can run a skinny 15" front wheel & not rub or run a 18/20" wheel w/too much BS & rub.
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yeller
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Re: 6" front drop question
I am good on the wheels, they are 15's, with proper BS'ing, and the a-arms have been trimmed.
I replaced the springs last night, just have to put the wheels back on, lower it to the ground, and take some pictures. Thanks for the feedback so far everyone.
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Re: 6" front drop question
Once the bug bites you, you can't quit.
![]() I remember someone saying they weren't going to lower their truck. You don't happen to remember who that was do you? Mike |
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Re: 6" front drop question
Ok, I'll give you that. Memory is about the only thing I have left that is worth a damn anymore.
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Re: 6" front drop question
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Jeff, I'm not one to dog ya on this, I was going to "restore" my 82 Blazer.... ![]()
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have either 2.5 or 3 in from aim industries (chassistech) does anyone know if 2.5 or 3 so ive got either 5.5 or 6 , with bump stops left alone no problem. rather bump stop hit control arm rather than wheel hitting top of fender . Am running 255x50x17,s onfront only problem they scrudwhen steering is turned all the way scrub , not scrud. hope this helps |
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yeller
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Twin Cities
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Re: 6" front drop question
Well I got the springs all installed, put the wheels on, and lowered it to the ground.
Doesn't sit any different?? Double checked the part numbers, and I believe I was sent 1.5" coils...not 3"!!!!! I thought it was strange they looked similar to my existing 1" coils...I figured they would compress more and that would be how the drop was achieved. I hope Sport Truck Direct fixes this problem, if not, they will get a lot of bad PR from me, as this is the second order they messed up for me.
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Re: 6" front drop question
OK, if anyone is still reading...
I called STD (sport truck direct), told them of my problem, and they told me these were 3" drop coils due to the fact that I have a bb and not a sb. They said part number 63c1015 is a 1.5" coil if I had a small block, but the same part number is a 3" drop coil if I have a big block. WTF!??? Doesn't make sense to me. He said call back monday, when the mfr are open, and we can work out a return. I am soo pissed right now, what a pain in the ass! End of rant. ![]()
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Re: 6" front drop question
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If you were happy w/the coils that were in the truck (except for the ride height), cut 1 coil off of them & be done. I won't tell anyone ![]()
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Re: 6" front drop question
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how in the hell are they going to cheap out and use the same spring for 2 different combiantions?!?! they need to have a sbc coil with the correct spring rates, and another bbc coil with the same spring rates. so are they saying that with a big block above the springs, it will DOUBLE the drop of the springs? so a 3" coil with a big block would drop the truck 6"???? tear them a new hole for me please edit: jeff, if you could do you think when you talk to someone on monday if you could get them to give you the specs on all of their springs? like the spring rates and other info. i've been looking for the it for awhile and i'm sure it would help you out a little to learn what the hell they are doing there with the springs... Last edited by ocbaud; 05-19-2007 at 01:17 PM. |
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Re: 6" front drop question
i'm followin...........must be a big block spring rate issue.as you know they weigh more.would have been nice if they would have told you that in first place.i agree with scoti,cut one coil.you really won't notice a ride issue with cutting one coil.i've had em in different cars and trucks over the years.sometimes i get in that same groove on a project for mine,where everything turns into a pain in the butt.and you end up doing and redoing about 3 times.but when you get that perfect stance and your looking at it,sucking down your beverage of choice.it all seems worth it.
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yeller
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Re: 6" front drop question
Scoti & boatpuller, if I cut one coil off my Bell Tech coils, how much additional drop do you think that will net?
Eric, I will see what they say. Keep in mind, STD only sells the parts, Western Chassis makes them. I have been unable to find a phone number or website for Western Chassis themselves.
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Re: 6" front drop question
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Western Chassis Inc. 2550 S. East Ave., Suite 101 Fresno, CA 93706 US Website: phone: (599) 266-4844 fax: (599) 266-4864 Western Chassis Spindles, shackles, leaf springs, drop coil/control arm kits (559) 266-2133 This company owns western same number as above and addres….. Tanney Manufacturing. 2550 S. East Ave. Suite 101. Fresno, Calif. 93706. Ph# 559-266-4844. I would start at 1/2 and then go a 1/4 coil at a time... BTW, BBC and SBC factory springs are identical from all that I have seen. If it is a 3" drop, it is a 3" drop. These don't know what they are talking about.
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Re: 6" front drop question
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Did you get shorter shocks w/your 'kit' or relocate your existing upper mounts? When I did mine, I was left w/approx 1" of shock compression. I relocated my upper mount about 1.5" higher on the frame rails so I could use off the shelf 73-87 truck shocks & maintain @ least 2" of compression stroke. Just more for you to worry about.....
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Re: 6" front drop question
When I put a BBC in my truck that came from the factory with a SBC on old '83 coil springs it only dropped the front of the truck 3/4-1 inch. No way on earth it would drop it 1.5 inches for a brand new spring.
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yeller
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Re: 6" front drop question
OK guys, I talked with Western Chassis today. Their part numbers are 63c1015, 63c1025, 63c1030, and 63c1040. The last two digits indicate the amount of drop...so they have 1.5, 2.5, 3 & 4 inch springs.
STD lied to me on the phone...or they are misimformed badly. I will be calling them and returning my order. I took off 1/2 coil on my Bell Tech springs...which should net me 1 more inch of drop...giving me a 5" front drop. I will start there and see how it looks. I have also been toying with the idea of changing mounting positions of the drop shackles and just running the flip kit...depending on how the front sits and rides (I have been listening to your advice guys, I don't want to tear anything up!). Scoti, yes, I have lowered shocks. Thanks for all the help everyone, much appreciated!
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Re: 6" front drop question
Hey jeff,
If you can slide a fullsize jack under it it ain't low enough... This shot is before I added fluids and everything else for weight. This is 3" drop spindles and 3" drop springs. ![]() BUT~ I do not have standard offset wheels either ( I think) 5" backspacing with 1.5" spacers (good ones not junkers) and 235x60x15 tires. It looks really good because it get's the wheel/tire package back out of the fenderwell. ![]() Doesn't hit the inner fenders or the fender lip. The control arms are lower than the rim lip (which is lillegal but I didn't plan it that way) Hope it never gets a flat ![]()
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Yep.....I swapped a BB into a 6-cyl truck, and it didn't drop but maybe an 1". A bigblock doesn't weight much more than a smallblock, esp once ya start adding aluminum intakes and headers over factory castings....... NICE truck JR!
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